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hey csound people,
  i have a couple of my csound pieces up on mp3.com.  if you'd like, you can
check them out at http://www.mp3.com/tweeg/   

  if you have admiration, comments, or insults, i'd really like to hear
them.  let me know.

-jim altieri



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From: David Boothe 
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Subject: RE: bugs in wg opcodes
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See below for more clarifications. Hope these help.

-David.


> 1. ar wgpluck2 iplk,xam,icps,kpick,krefl
> 
> A krefl value of 1 means no reflection at all and 0 is total 
> reflection
> (therefore this is an absorption coefficient). The manual 
> says the opposite.
> (there was recently a short thread on this problem)

Yes this does work opposite. The documentation will change to reflect this
situation.


> -----------
> 3. ar wgbrass kamp,kfreq,iatt,kvibf,kvamp,ifn [,iminfreq]
> 
> This line (similar to the manual example)
> 
> 
> error:  insufficient required arguments, line 3:
> a1  wgbrass 20000, 440, 0.1, 6.1, 0.05, 1
> 1 syntax errors in orchestra.  compilation invalid
> 
> 
> Does that mean that there is an undocumented argument before 
> ifn, for example
> an idetk-time similar to the other wg opcodes?

Yes. Syntax should read:

  ar wgbrass kamp,kfreq,ktens,iatt,kvibf,kvamp,ifn [,iminfreq]

ktens represents lip tension.


> 5. ar shaker kamp,kfreq,kbeans,kdamp,knum,ktimes [,idecay]

> BTW, what does a frequency of a shaker really mean??
> 


Frequency is the resonant frequency of the shaker's gourd.
And in case someone missed my previous post, syntax should be:

  ar shaker kamp,kfreq,kbeans,kdamp,ktimes [,idecay]

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RE: bugs in wg opcodes



See below for more clarifications. Hope these help.

-David.


> 1. ar wgpluck2 iplk,xam,icps,kpick,krefl
>
> A krefl value of 1 means no reflection at all and 0 is total
> reflection
> (therefore this is an absorption coefficient). The manual
> says the opposite.
> (there was recently a short thread on this problem)

Yes this does work opposite. The documentation will change to reflect this situation.


> -----------
> 3. ar wgbrass kamp,kfreq,iatt,kvibf,kvamp,ifn [,iminfreq]
>
> This line (similar to the manual example)
>
>
> error:  insufficient required arguments, line 3:
> a1  wgbrass 20000, 440, 0.1, 6.1, 0.05, 1
> 1 syntax errors in orchestra.  compilation invalid
>
>
> Does that mean that there is an undocumented argument before
> ifn, for example
> an idetk-time similar to the other wg opcodes?

Yes. Syntax should read:

  ar wgbrass kamp,kfreq,ktens,iatt,kvibf,kvamp,ifn [,iminfreq]

ktens represents lip tension.


> 5. ar shaker kamp,kfreq,kbeans,kdamp,knum,ktimes [,idecay]

> BTW, what does a frequency of a shaker really mean??
>


Frequency is the resonant frequency of the shaker's gourd.
And in case someone missed my previous post, syntax should be:

  ar shaker kamp,kfreq,kbeans,kdamp,ktimes [,idecay]

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE6767.2FF0E944--   Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10100; 6 Mar 99 3:42 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 10J7z9-0000n8-00; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 03:42:43 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (DAA17686); Sat, 6 Mar 1999 03:29:22 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 03:29:11 GMT Received: from root@westnet.com [206.24.6.2] by hermes via ESMTP (DAA04696); Sat, 6 Mar 1999 03:29:10 GMT Received: from goodguy (p12.pm3-3.westnet.com [206.28.203.12]) by westnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA15858; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:28:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36DE07B1.25854F25@westnet.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:10:25 +0000 From: Larry Troxler X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne Freno CC: Csound List Subject: Re: Grains from Audio files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne Freno wrote: > > What are the best sources (hopefully free and on the > internet! ;-)) for using audio files in granular > synthesis? So far I can only get the grain opcode > to use a sine wave, but I can imagine mucho pontential > with audio files! Thanks! > > Wayne Freno Don't know of what internet sources there are, but you're really missing out by not experimenting with natural audio as the source. Also, I haven't been using csound lately, so I don't know what the opcode parameter are, but a nice start is to take a sound file and do the following with the grain stuff: - set the playback speed for the individual grains to be either the same as the original sample, or lower (most likely) or higher, depending on what frequency spectrum you want the result to have - set the parameters so that the granulated output will slowly traverse the source file, but much slower than the original sample's playback rate. (time expansion, basically) - set the parameters so that the grain density is fairly high. By density I mean how many grains, on average, are playing at any given point in time. What I mean is you want overlap. Maybe 5 to 20 for starters? - Randomize the times a bit, either in at which point in the source file successive grains are taken from, or in at what point in the output file the grains are started. The result of this is you'll get a time-stretched version of the original file, but because of the grain density and built in randomness (jiterryness?), it can sound much richer than the source. The perception is one of slowly experiencing every nuance of the timbre changes of the sound. I did this once with a cheap soundcard recording of a bicycle bell, and the initial "clack" became a complex unpitched sound, and the ringing of the bell turned into a delightfull, 10 or 20 second evolution of timbre as the bell decayed. I know this is a bit sketchy and maybe not self-explanatory. Hopefully some one who knows the grain opcode will chime in. Larry -- Larry Troxler -- lt@westnet.com -- Patterson, NY USA --