RE: Winsound v3.476 bug?

Date	1998-03-09 18:02
From	Dustin Barlow
Subject	RE: Winsound v3.476 bug?
	I agree, but try telling that to some disgruntled users...:} It's amazing how upset people get with me over a FREE product...may have to change that some day... I didn't have the latest version of csound. I have version 3.472 and it is working just fine. I thought that was the latest, but I guess its not. I am also curious to hear if anyone wants CSounder to work with the real-time aspects of Gabriel's real-time version of csound. If so, email me directly and I will take a small poll. Believe me, I don't need anything else to do in my life, but would be willing to add some of the latest features of csound to CSounder if there are enough of you out there that want it. Dustin Barlow http:\\www.omnids.com dbarlow@omnids.com -----Original Message----- From: Qian Chen [SMTP:qian_chen@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 08, 1998 6:36 PM To: Csound Subject: RE: Winsound v3.476 bug? I do not think it is the problem of CSounder v3.3. I think it is the bug of Winsound v3.476. Since I have used some other Csound & Winsound version, and no problems happened at all. Qian Chen ---Dustin Barlow wrote: > > > I have had a couple of other users email me about having problems > with CSound creating READ-ONLY files. I have the latest versions > of CSound and mine seem to be writing the correct file attributes > and I am able to delete the csound generated files from within > CSounder. > > I haven't changed CSounder for over a year now so I'm sure that > the deletion problem is not with CSounder. It has only been > recently that I've gotten complaints about this problem from > CSounder users. Has anyone else had this deletion problem? > > I'm currently running CSounder and csound (3.472 for DOS and Windows) > on a P-233MMX running Win NT 4.0 Workstation (the goods!) and > everything runs the way I expect it so I'm not sure what to recommend. > > Can the powers that be help? > > Dustin Barlow > > 1. Whenever I generate the sound file, I cannot delete it with > Csounder v3.3. After checking the atribution of the sound file, I > found that the atribution had always been set as READ-ONLY. All I > have to do is to use file folder to delete the file or use ATTRIB > command in DOS. Is it a bug? > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28560; 9 Mar 98 17:40 GMT Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa23585; 9 Mar 98 17:40 GMT Received: (qmail 3125 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 17:40:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 17:40:16 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (QAA25490); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:39:47 GMT Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 9 Mar 98 16:39:23 GMT Received: from walt.music.qub.ac.uk [143.117.35.1] by hermes via SMTP (QAA02927); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:39:16 GMT Received: from mickey by walt.music.qub.ac.uk (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA03010; Mon, 9 Mar 98 16:30:45 GMT From: Mark Wilkes Message-Id: <9803091630.AA03010@walt.music.qub.ac.uk> Received: by mickey.music.qub.ac.uk (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA23264; Mon, 9 Mar 98 16:32:23 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 16:32:23 GMT Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: crash problems Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I run Csound 3.473 on an IBM 380ED thinkpad, using csounder as an interface (I too have had problems with version 3.476). If I use csound in a DOS window, I get violent crashes. If I replace my config.sys with a blank one, my computer doesn't go into suspend (but csound works). Anyone else with a similar problem? Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28667; 9 Mar 98 17:50 GMT Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa24124; 9 Mar 98 17:50 GMT Received: (qmail 4021 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1998 17:49:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Mar 1998 17:49:04 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA19238); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:23:47 GMT Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 9 Mar 98 17:23:21 GMT Received: from mb05.swip.net [193.12.122.209] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA04931); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:23:11 GMT Received: from rasmus (dialup179-2-23.swipnet.se [130.244.179.87]) by mb05.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27173 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:23:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <35042608.58A8@hexagon.se> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 18:25:28 +0100 From: rasmus ekman X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Csound Subject: Re: Winsound v3.476 read-only bug References: <01BD4A72.665A8F20.dbarlow@omnids.com> <3503B121.D5797EE5@agora.stm.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Gabriel Maldonado wrote: > > Dustin Barlow wrote: > > > I have had a couple of other users email me about having problems > > with CSound creating READ-ONLY files. I have the latest versions > > of CSound and mine seem to be writing the correct file attributes > > If Csound is compiled with MSVC, maybe the read-only error is a bug of > the compiler. In my version of Csound I had inserted a patch which looks > at the just written file and removes the attribute if it is read-only. No, I had this (really minor) problem with the DOS version a year ago, I think John didn't use MSVC then? Checking, I find it has disappeared from the DOS version (3.473), but it's indeed there in Winsound (3.476): When running the second time to the same output file, Csound dies with a message like sfinit: cannot open E:\Csound\Winsound\test.wav I suppose it's a slightly more annoying problem with Winsound than for the DOS version, since under Dos it's natural to run from a batch file, and then it's trivial to insert a line like if exist %SFDIR%\test.wav ATTRIB %SFDIR%\test.wav -r after the Csound command line. Gabriel, perhaps you should mail the patch to John (as if he won't find it in, er, under 30 secs? (any takers?)...) 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Cecilia has won international awards (just so you know...) Cecilia proves that an intelligent interface can make the difference between living for composing and composing for living. Cecilia is for the patron saint of music and for an obscure ftp server at MIT, except that's spelled Cecelia. We are not religious, but please dont confuse either of these with the program. Cecilia is available for download at : ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/cecilia/ Cecilia's home page for manuals and info: http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/CEC/ Cecilia was written by Jean Piche and Alexandre Burton. If you recive more than one copy of this announcement, it is because you are specially well tuned to our intentions... Cecilia has a discussion list. To subscribe, send a message to majordomo@ginette.musique.umontreal.ca with the following text in the body of the message: subscribe cecilia Enjoy! 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Cecilia was developped by composers of electroacoustic music for composers of electroacoustic music. If you have to ask, don't bother. Cecilia is probably the wackiest soundmaker in the world at this time. In fact, we believe nothing else even comes close. Cecilia requires that you know what you are doing in order to make full use of its features. Those who dont know what they are doing will make noises that everybody else makes and be mocked at large public gatherings. Cecilia gives extraordinary control over sonic time profiles. And everything else in between. Cecilia is for high-concept audio processing. It is not for sequencing your rinky-dink samplers and synths. Cecilia is freeware. The next version will not be. Count your blessings. Cecilia is strictly for people who have a sense of humour. We, on the other hand, are very cranky people. Cecilia runs on Macintoshes, Linux boxes and SGIs. It does not run on Windows. When it does, we'll sell it and become obscenely wealthy. Cecilia has won international awards (just so you know...) Cecilia proves that an intelligent interface can make the difference between living for composing and composing for living. Cecilia is for the patron saint of music and for an obscure ftp server at MIT, except that's spelled Cecelia. We are not religious, but please dont confuse either of these with the program. Cecilia is available for download at : ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/cecilia/ Cecilia's home page for manuals and info: http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/CEC/ Cecilia was written by Jean Piche and Alexandre Burton. If you recive more than one copy of this announcement, it is because you are specially well tuned to our intentions... Cecilia has a discussion list. To subscribe, send a message to majordomo@ginette.musique.umontreal.ca with the following text in the body of the message: subscribe cecilia Enjoy! Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa06272; 10 Mar 98 8:53 GMT Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10744; 10 Mar 98 8:53 GMT Received: (qmail 19344 invoked from network); 10 Mar 1998 08:53:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Mar 1998 08:53:25 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA25968); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:48:01 GMT Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 10 Mar 98 08:47:33 GMT Received: from [132.252.180.228] by hermes via ESMTP (IAA16529); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:47:27 GMT Received: from fila (khalid@ascend205.extern.uni-essen.de [132.252.240.205]) by aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id JAA48934 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:46:35 +0100 Message-Id: <3504FE0F.3A4B8845@uni-essen.de> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:47:11 +0100 From: khalid X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Cecilia2.0 for Mac, Linux and IRIX References: <3504CF86.3F53238A@ere.umontreal.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jean Piche wrote: > > Cecilia is freeware. The next version will not be. Count your blessings. I stopped using cecilia some months ago so i wrote a little script to convert my cecilia modules back to csound orc/sco format again. So if any of you want to convert the stuff without doing it by hand, email me I'll send it to you. kd Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa06352; 10 Mar 98 9:02 GMT Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11295; 10 Mar 98 9:02 GMT Received: (qmail 24962 invoked from network); 10 Mar 1998 09:02:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Mar 1998 09:02:33 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA08941); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:56:11 GMT Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 10 Mar 98 08:55:30 GMT Received: from f84.hotmail.com [207.82.250.190] by hermes via SMTP (IAA10202); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:55:17 GMT Received: (qmail 7789 invoked by uid 0); 10 Mar 1998 08:54:53 -0000 Message-Id: <19980310085453.7788.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.192.108 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:53 PST X-Originating-Ip: [207.172.192.108] From: Paul Winkler To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Cecilia2.0 for Mac, Linux and IRIX Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:53 PST Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Subject: [ANNOUNCE] - Cecilia2.0 for Mac, Linux and IRIX ^^^^^ Praise the lord and pass the ammunition!! Can I get an AMEN somebody!! --PW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa06965; 10 Mar 98 10:21 GMT Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15748; 10 Mar 98 10:21 GMT Received: (qmail 25354 invoked from network); 10 Mar 1998 10:21:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Mar 1998 10:21:51 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (KAA11103); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:24 GMT Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 10 Mar 98 10:03:05 GMT Received: from [193.121.99.70] by hermes via ESMTP (KAA08030); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:55 GMT Received: from nobody ([195.238.9.69]) by hurricane.netgate.be (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-32575U60) with ESMTP id AAA262 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:06:57 +0100 Message-Id: <3502EF7C.966CBAA2@pavell.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:20:28 +0100 From: David Schuyeteneer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Csound List Subject: [WCshell] swapping apps problem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello ! Freaky David is here again !! I was out for some days but all is fixed. I switched on the machine and am up & running. I have heard about Wcshell. Does it solve the annoying problem of constantly swapping between Csound, text-editor, soundplayer ? because THAT's what I need. Seeya, David.