| Years ago an on-line friend (Chris DeChiara) tipped me off to the
existence of this Csound program, telling me that it would run under
MS-DOS. It did, I got hooked, eventually switched operating systems, and
now run Csound under the Linux OS. I've run it on an SGI, a Mac, under
DOS, Windows 3.1, and Win95. Many, many thanks for the work put into
Csound by so many people, but especial thanks to jpff for maintaining a
canonical source tree and a site for the rest of us to pillage at will.
Now if only he would be more diligent about his t'ai-chi practice... ;)
Csound and Linux share the wonderful vision of "What would happen if the
source code was freely available ? What sorts of development would take
place if people had free access to the inner workings ?". Well, we have
the Linux 2.0.x kernel series and now we have Csound 3.47, pretty
amazing stuff for free software, no ?
I would also like to echo Richard Dobson's sentiment when he writes:
> I...take this opportunity to express my appreciation
> for what seems to be by far the most courteous, intelligent and mutually
> respectful discussion group on the net.
Truly. I've dropped off from a variety of other mail-lists due to a poor
signal-to-noise ratio, but the Csound list has maintained a consistently
strong signal with very little noise. You are all a credit to the
species...
Great thanks are also especially due to Gabriel Maldonado, Robin
Whittle, the Mills team, Jean Piche & Alex Burton, and everyone else who
has contributed to platform and source development. It just gets better
and better...
== Dave Phillips
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http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linux_soundapps.html
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Greetings:
Csound 3.47 for Linux is now available at the following URLs:
In the USA:
ftp://mustec.bgsu.edu/pub/linux/Csound-3.47.Linux.bin.tgz
ftp://mustec.bgsu.edu/pub/linux/Csound-3.47.Linux.src.tgz
In the UK:
ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/platforms/unix/Linux/Csound-3.47.Linux.bin.tgz
ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/platforms/unix/Linux/Csound-3.47.Linux.src.tgz
The source package includes a patch from Laszlo Vecsey which will
allow compilation on glibc systems (such as Red Hat 5.0). The binary has
been built using libc, supports X, and is in ELF format.
Please note that MIDI input is still in need of some repair. We're
working on it, a fix should be ready soon, but I didn't want to hold
back the packages any longer. Enjoy !
== Dave Phillips
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thank you John for all your hard work...it has given us composers new and
exciting opcodes/features to use as tools in our art...and thanks for always
listening and considering new ideas about Csound...
KIM
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From: Paul Ford
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First, a public congratulations to all developers, especially Mr. Ffitch.
I've learned an incredible amount from working with Csound; had this
product not been free, documented, and publicly supported, I would never
have discovered software synthesis at all.
Second, as I learned the basics of Csound, I found plugging my sound
output into an old stereo for output through a "wobbulator," or "wobble
vision," both useful and aesthetically satisfying. A wobbulator is a
half-baked oscilloscope. To make one requires an old TV or monitor,
twenty minutes, and a few feet of wire.
On a wobbulized TV, sound shows up as a full revolution, instead of as an
oscilloscope's plotted wave. Sine waves become an oval. Sawtooth waves are
ovals with sharpened edges. Harmonized waves appear as circles within
circles. Modulation sets the waveshape spinning. Overall, it's like an
animated spirograph.
By providing a visual reference for synthesis concepts, my wobbulator
reinforced my understanding of electronic music. It also looks trippy.
Those currently beginning to wade through the very useful, but
intimidating, Csound manual may find building one helpful. More
experienced Csounders might also find it fun to play with.
Instructions and plans to make your own can be found at:
http://cree.ucs.indiana.edu:1729/pathogenic/wobble.html
I suggest an old monochrome computer monitor for best results, but color
computer monitors, black-and-white TV sets, and color TVs also offer a
good image.
Please be careful with electricity.
Sincerely,
Paul Ford
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I would like to add my thanks to John for all his support and work with
CSound.
We should induct him into a CSound Hall of Fame.
Has anyone thought about a sample CD of either scores and orcs, actual
compositions or both? We could all contribute to a small production CD
fearturing the work of John and perhaps others.
Regards, Liam D
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Hi CSounders,
I'm a pretty new CSound user and I'm looking for the new 3.47 version on
PowerMac.
I've been on the following site:
ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/platforms/mac/PCCsound.hqx
but none of the files here are specificaly labeled PPC 3.47.
More, in each different file category there is .hqx and .Hqx suffix.
What is the difference.
Last but not least: each time I tried to load a file, the link died
after 30 minutes. Stream seems very slow. I guess it's crowded.
Is there anywhere a mirror site?
Thank you for your help.
--
Jean-Michel DARREMONT
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I feel I need to add my thancks to the rest of the community. The first
time I met Csound (from a lonely BBS in Spain, by 1994), and read the
manuals, I thought I had had a revelation. That night, when I got my
first 5 seconds 440 Hz pure sine wave in non-interpolated readout (Oh
yeah...) I experienced such a joy I can no compare with anything else
(well, ...). Afterwards it was the Internet, the Csound List, and J P
Fitch, who I consider a guru.
Without the help, the support and the collaboration of all those who
contribute with such generosity to Csound some of us, isolated in XIX
century villages and with no more means than a simple PC at home, would
had lost the opportunity of making Computer Music.
My best wishes to the continuity of this great tool, and my most sincere
acknowledgements to J P Fitch and the others.
Josep M Comajuncosas
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Mr. Dobson wrote...
>you can even read in four channels, assuming you have some means of
>playing them!
...and I would like to bring this subject again.
How is people playing quad files?
At the moment I have 2 PowerMacintosh (6100 and 8600) and I am wondering if
they could be chained or synchronised to play two stereo files at the same
time. Maybe there is a way of using Ethernet or Appletalk to keep them
playing at unison.
Or maybe I should promote a bit the business of Digidesign and buy an
Audiomedia III. But, wait a minute, someone said somewhere that
SuperCollider will support the Korg 1212. Now I dont know what to do.
In any case it seems that no version of CSound supports multichannel
playback. Is that right?
Many thanks.
Javier Ruiz
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SGIIndy... it has built-in quad. I have use it and works pretty good.
Michael
On
Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Javier Ruiz wrote:
> Mr. Dobson wrote...
>
> >you can even read in four channels, assuming you have some means of
> >playing them!
>
> ...and I would like to bring this subject again.
>
> How is people playing quad files?
>
> At the moment I have 2 PowerMacintosh (6100 and 8600) and I am wondering if
> they could be chained or synchronised to play two stereo files at the same
> time. Maybe there is a way of using Ethernet or Appletalk to keep them
> playing at unison.
>
> Or maybe I should promote a bit the business of Digidesign and buy an
> Audiomedia III. But, wait a minute, someone said somewhere that
> SuperCollider will support the Korg 1212. Now I dont know what to do.
>
>
> In any case it seems that no version of CSound supports multichannel
> playback. Is that right?
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
>
> Javier Ruiz
>
>
>
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Add my name to the growing list of Csound devotees who are expressing their
gratitude to John. Thanks for all you do - it means a great deal to us all.
-Tom
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I would like to see a picture of John on the server.
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From: Larry Troxler
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On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Tom M. Makucevich wrote:
> Add my name to the growing list of Csound devotees who are expressing their
> gratitude to John. Thanks for all you do - it means a great deal to us all.
>
> -Tom
>
Yes, and add my name too, but only on the condition that this list as a
whole may possibly be spared any further email on this topic!!
Don't misunderstand, John, I salute you for the work you've done, but
we're quickly finding out that the "hip-hip-horay" approach doesn't
really cut it for mailing lists :-)
Perhaps, any further commendations should go by private mail, rather than
through this list.
Again, I don't mean to demean your importance; but there may be hundreds
of subscribers here, and I propose that you and you alone should have the
priviledge of reading them :-)
LaRRY
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From: Jean Piche
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Larry sensibly argues:
> Don't misunderstand, John, I salute you for the work you've done, but
> we're quickly finding out that the "hip-hip-horay" approach doesn't
> really cut it for mailing lists :-)
Hoped someone would have noticed...
besides, john is probably so embarassed by now, he's decided to jump ship to clm
;) time to kill the thread.
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From: "Matt J. Ingalls"
To: Javier Ruiz
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Subject: Re: How do you play four channels?
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> Or maybe I should promote a bit the business of Digidesign and buy an
> Audiomedia III. But, wait a minute, someone said somewhere that
AMIII is only stereo and besides that its digi
> In any case it seems that no version of CSound supports multichannel
> playback. Is that right?
well, you could setup CSound on both machines, create 2
versions of your orc (front/back speakers) for the same score - run the 2
orcs (might as well take advantage of the "multi-pprocessor" system yoiu
have there) then create a simpleMIDI playback orc and trigger the
playbacks from a single MIDI controller. (or use GrainWave or any other
MIDI playback app for that matter) -- its worth a try -- i'd like to
know how it works out...
(at one point we tried to get the API from digi for accessing ProToolsI
card so CSound-perf could playback in quad - but no luck - although we
didnt try too hard)
-matt
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To: Javier Ruiz
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>> Or maybe I should promote a bit the business of Digidesign and buy an
>> Audiomedia III. But, wait a minute, someone said somewhere that
>
> AMIII is only stereo and besides that its digi
>
you might manage to send out two additional channels through the analog
connections. suggest you check with them.
tolve
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how about using the quad output opcode to generate 4 mono files or 2 stereo
files that could be brought into ProTools or whatever for further
work?...does anyone see a potential usage for such a feature?
KIM
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On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Javier Ruiz wrote:
>
> How is people playing quad files?
>
> At the moment I have 2 PowerMacintosh (6100 and 8600) and I am wondering if
> they could be chained or synchronised to play two stereo files at the same
> time. Maybe there is a way of using Ethernet or Appletalk to keep them
> playing at unison.
>
I don't think the solution is two machines so much as it
is two sound cards. It's not too difficult on a pc to set-up
two sound cards to get four channels (Turtle beach's card have
been capable of this for some time , provided you have the
resources for both cards;) on a Mac, well...I couldn't tell
you but it seems in principal about the same thing.
Protools etc. isn't going to help, you could have 16 virtual
tracks but if your i/o is two channels they are still going
to have to be mixed to stereo. You need four channels of
output which probably means two compatible stereo cards
that can be addressed simultanelously and seperately.
best,
Bruce
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From: Laszlo Vecsey
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The latest csound seems to crash on my computer when doing realtime midi
input, on windows. I'm curious if anyone out there has had success with
this latest version, and if they could post a simple orc sco and the
commandline syntax.
I'm using a sine.orc and sine.sco that was posted to the list a while back
with instructions, which all worked fine in Linux. But on windows I'm not
sure if csound is grabbing midi input or outputing audio to/from the
correct devices.
- lv
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