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Date1997-10-21 14:40
Fromjpff@maths.bath.ac.uk
SubjectAny ideas for a sound
I realise that I am being lazy in sending this message.... but I do
not care what you think of me!

I have a desire to synthesise a sound rather like the russling of
leaves in a breeze.  Before I spend an entire day messing about I
thought I would seek advice from the collective wisdom of the group.

I assume that some kind of granular and noise would be an idea; any
other thoughts?

==John ff



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From: Richard Dobson 
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> 
> I realise that I am being lazy in sending this message.... but I do
> not care what you think of me!
> 
> I have a desire to synthesise a sound rather like the russling of
> leaves in a breeze.  Before I spend an entire day messing about I
> thought I would seek advice from the collective wisdom of the group.
> 
> I assume that some kind of granular and noise would be an idea; any
> other thoughts?
> 
> ==John ff
> 
> 
I think we need to know more about the leaves. How many of them are there?
Are they BIG leaves (oak, chestnut), or small ones? Is a small child
kicking them about, or are they being wafted gently? How fast is the air?
This is clearly a complex physical modelling task.

Alternatively, you could sample the sound of one leaf, and use it as your
grain...

What we really need is a 'leafgen' unit generator. :-)

Richard Dobson




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From: Richard Dobson 
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> 
> I realise that I am being lazy in sending this message.... but I do
> not care what you think of me!
> 
> I have a desire to synthesise a sound rather like the russling of
> leaves in a breeze.  Before I spend an entire day messing about I
> thought I would seek advice from the collective wisdom of the group.
> 
> I assume that some kind of granular and noise would be an idea; any
> other thoughts?
> 
> ==John ff
> 
> 
I think we need to know more about the leaves. How many of them are there?
Are they BIG leaves (oak, chestnut), or small ones? Is a small child
kicking them about, or are they being wafted gently? How fast is the air?
This is clearly a complex physical modelling task.

Alternatively, you could sample the sound of one leaf, and use it as your
grain...

What we really need is a 'leafgen' unit generator. :-)

Richard Dobson





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From: charlie 
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On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, John Francis Beahan wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, charlie hubbard wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm currently building a graphical Csound Orc environment.  I'm
> > designing it
> > so that people can develope their own Csound plugin modules so they can
> > extend
> On what platform are designing this for (SGI I hope I hope I hope!)

I'm developing it for any platform that can support the scripting
language TCL/TK.  So yes SGI will be a target audience :) 

charlie

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From: Larry Troxler 
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On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Jason H Clouse wrote:
> 
> can't read "env(CEC_LIBRARY)": no such element in array
>     while executing
> "set ceclib $env(CEC_LIBRARY)..."
>     (procedure "loadSourceFiles" line 3)
>     invoked from within
> "loadSourceFiles"
>     invoked from within
> "if ![info exists tcload] {loadSourceFiles}"
>     (file "/usr/local/lib/cecLINUX/dev/xcec" line 9)
> 
> I have CEC_LIBRARY to the /usr/local/lib/cecLINUX directory.  If I can
> fix this, I'll be there I think...
> 
> 	Jason
> 

Did you _export_ your CEC_LIBRARY definition? Just a thought...

Larry


--  Larry Troxler  --  lt@westnet.com  --  Patterson, NY USA  --
  




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From: Arne Hanna 
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Below is a simple little Csound score generator posted some time ago by
Dave Madole (I think).

As I'm still a beginner as far as 'C' goes, if it's not too much to ask,
could someone comment this code and send it back to me?

Also, the output regarding start times(p2) is not chronological.  Any tips
on how to change this would, as always, be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Arne



/*
        Csound score generator;
        use with simple oscil instrument
*/

#include "time.h"
#include "stdio.h"
#include "stdlib.h"

#define MAXRUN 12
#define MINSTART 0.
#define MAXSTART 4./* was 44 */
#define MINDUR 0.
#define MAXDUR 2.
#define MINAMP 1000
#define MAXAMP 10000
#define MINFREQ 220
#define MAXFREQ 660

float fran(); /*function declaration*/

main(argc,argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
        int i,n;
        float nstart,nlength;
        int kamp,kfreq,ifnc;

        FILE *fp;
        fp=fopen(argv[1],"w");

        fprintf(fp,"f1 0 8192 10 1\n");
        fprintf(fp,"f2 0 8192 10 1 .9 .8 .7 .6 .5 .4 .3 .2 .1\n");
        fprintf(fp,"f3 0 8192 10 .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9 1\n");
        fprintf(fp,"f4 0 8192 10 .1 .3 .5 .7 .9 1 .8 .6 .4 .2\n");
        fprintf(fp,"\n");
        fprintf(fp,";inst  start length kamp  kfreq  ifnc\n");
        fprintf(fp,";p1    p2    p3     p4    p5     p6\n");
        fprintf(fp,"\n");

        srand(time(0));

        nstart==0;

        for (i=0;i
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Subject: Re: Any ideas for a sound



 > I think we need to know more about the leaves. How many of them are
 > there?  Are they BIG leaves (oak, chestnut), or small ones? Is a small
 > child kicking them about, or are they being wafted gently? How fast is
 > the air?  This is clearly a complex physical modelling task.

If you had a good model, you wouldn't have to know these things - they
would be the input parameters!

Also, this is a perfect candidate sound for the combination of an
event-generator component wrapping a csound synthesis model. 

					- lonce



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 > I think we need to know more about the leaves. How many of them are
 > there?  Are they BIG leaves (oak, chestnut), or small ones? Is a small
 > child kicking them about, or are they being wafted gently? How fast is
 > the air?  This is clearly a complex physical modelling task.

If you had a good model, you wouldn't have to know these things - they
would be the input parameters!

Also, this is a perfect candidate sound for the combination of an
event-generator component wrapping a csound synthesis model. 

					- lonce


Date1997-10-21 17:41
FromRichard Dobson
SubjectRe: Any ideas for a sound
> 
> I realise that I am being lazy in sending this message.... but I do
> not care what you think of me!
> 
> I have a desire to synthesise a sound rather like the russling of
> leaves in a breeze.  Before I spend an entire day messing about I
> thought I would seek advice from the collective wisdom of the group.
> 
> I assume that some kind of granular and noise would be an idea; any
> other thoughts?
> 
> ==John ff
> 
> 
I think we need to know more about the leaves. How many of them are there?
Are they BIG leaves (oak, chestnut), or small ones? Is a small child
kicking them about, or are they being wafted gently? How fast is the air?
This is clearly a complex physical modelling task.

Alternatively, you could sample the sound of one leaf, and use it as your
grain...

What we really need is a 'leafgen' unit generator. :-)

Richard Dobson

Date1997-10-22 10:44
FromLonce LaMar Wyse
SubjectRe: Any ideas for a sound

 > I think we need to know more about the leaves. How many of them are
 > there?  Are they BIG leaves (oak, chestnut), or small ones? Is a small
 > child kicking them about, or are they being wafted gently? How fast is
 > the air?  This is clearly a complex physical modelling task.

If you had a good model, you wouldn't have to know these things - they
would be the input parameters!

Also, this is a perfect candidate sound for the combination of an
event-generator component wrapping a csound synthesis model. 

					- lonce