| Dear Csounders!
Can anybody help to find (any) description
of Digidesign's Sound Designer's file format (ver. 1 and 2).?
Thanks,
Sergey Batov batov@glasnet.ru
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Does anyone else have problems downloading the manual or is it just me?
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Hi Sherlock,
I downloaded it Thursday with no trouble. This is where I got it
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Studio/5746/.
Hope this helps.
Michael
Make the Rhoadsmith Web Connection at
http://www.innerlightpub.com/rhoadsmith
> Does anyone else have problems downloading the manual or is it just me?
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http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual/current/html.zip
It's downloading here. Seems fine.
The Online versions are for online use, if that's what you're up against.
The download versions are at:
http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual/download.htm .
rich out
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When will the man be available in ascii?
Thanks.
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I've been in non-lurking mode for some time now but the other day someone
mentioned a Csound VST plugin that is supposedly in the works...can anyone
send me more info or a URL about this?
thanks!
KIM
__________________________
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http://www.anechoicmedia.com
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From: richard bowers
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Is there any way of csound being placed on web pages as a synthesiser which
is activated (or activates itself) at the end user's computer from a web
page?
Yours in anticipation,
Richard Bowers.
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>Is there any way of csound being placed on web pages as a synthesiser which
>is activated (or activates itself) at the end user's computer from a web
>page?
>
>Yours in anticipation,
saol
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Subject: RE: VST plugin
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I have mentioned this. Actually, I have been exploring several ways to
synthesize sound for my algorithmic composition system Silence: Csound,
SAOL, and a pure Java synthesizer. I have now committed to SAOL unless,
after some experience, it doesn't prove as useful as Csound. I am setting
aside my adaptions to Csound (AXCSound) and the pure Java synthesizer in
favor of SAOL.
Instead of producing a Csound VST plugin, then, I will be producing a SAOL
VST plugin... that is, after I get SAOL working in the first place. At the
present time, I am using John Lazzaro's sfront SAOL to C compiler, then
shelling out to run a C compiler. I am in the midst of creating a Java
interface for SAOL called Noise. When that is done, I will attempt the VST
thing.
I would encourage Csound developers to continue the line of work that I had
begun with AXCSound, which is in the public domain and available for
adaptation. I found that modifying Csound to be able to work in the context
of a plugin was not a trivial task. I did add realtime line inputs and
realtime JavaSound MIDI input, and I had designed but not implemented
JavaSound audio input. This looked like it was going to be moderately
difficult, because the VST plugins get sound pulled out of them, but Csound
wants to push sound out of itself.
It would also be highly desirable to make a multiply instantiatable object
out of Csound (currently, there can only be one Csound orchestra running in
a process). If anyone wants the sources of my development work, beyond what
is available in the zip file on my Web page, please let me know.
Why am I changing from Csound to SAOL? I hope and anticipate that various
implementations of SAOL, ranging from sfront through runtime compilers to
embedded systems on chips in sound cards, will become available. This should
mean that a measure of stability and good implementation comes to software
synthesis. Even if I quit using sfront and started using SoundWiz chips (to
use an imaginary sound card manufacturer as an example) all my SAOL
orchestras should continue to work as before. With SAOL, instead of adding
opcodes written in C to the engine, one adds user-defined opcodes written in
SAOL to one's orchestras, because SAOL is a complete procedural language
that happens to be specialized for sound synthesis.
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Subject: VST plugin
I've been in non-lurking mode for some time now but the other day someone
mentioned a Csound VST plugin that is supposedly in the works...can anyone
send me more info or a URL about this?
thanks!
KIM
__________________________
kim.cascone
sound.designer...composer
kim@anechoicmedia.com
http://www.anechoicmedia.com
full length:: blueCube( ) (Rastermusic)
comp track:: nb2e_Vortex.aiff (Mille Plateaux)
comp track:: vortexShedding (Caipirinha Music)
full length:: cathodeFlower (Ritornell/Mille Plateaux)
"the smooth always posseses a greater power of deterritorialization than
the striated."
- Deleuze & Guattari
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From: Michael Gogins
To: richard bowers ,
csound csound
Subject: RE: csound on the web
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AXCSound will do this; see http://www.pipeline.com/~gogins or the Csound
e-zine article about it.
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Is there any way of csound being placed on web pages as a synthesiser which
is activated (or activates itself) at the end user's computer from a web
page?
Yours in anticipation,
Richard Bowers.
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I am concerned that there seems to be more than one version of the
manual.
David Booth has informed me that Jean Piche is now longer maintaining
the HTML manual (he forwarded me a copy of a message Jean Piche sent to
this list to that effect). The latest copy of the manual for version
3.53 I had was from the Bath site, and substantially different from
David Booth's version recently announced here. Each version has stuff
that the other does not.
Now, the FTP site at Bath is down (as John Fitch warned might happen),
so I can't go check to see what is going on.
I just want to see if everyone agrees that there should not be two
seperate versions of the HTML manual floating around, and under the
circumstances, all traces of the Piche version should be removed.
On a related note : David, I could not find the tutorial section in your
manual. Is there a reason you omitted it, or was this intentional?
Larry Troxler
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I am concerned that there seems to be more than one version of the
manual.
David Booth has informed me that Jean Piche is now longer maintaining
the HTML manual (he forwarded me a copy of a message Jean Piche sent to
this list to that effect). The latest copy of the manual for version
3.53 I had was from the Bath site, and substantially different from
David Booth's version recently announced here. Each version has stuff
that the other does not.
Now, the FTP site at Bath is down (as John Fitch warned might happen),
so I can't go check to see what is going on.
I just want to see if everyone agrees that there should not be two
seperate versions of the HTML manual floating around, and under the
circumstances, all traces of the Piche version should be removed.
On a related note : David, I could not find the tutorial section in your
manual. Is there a reason you omitted it, or was this intentional?
Larry Troxler
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Jim-
The ASCII Edition will be available at the same time as the Acrobat
Edition. Both are generated from the same source file, which is currently
in the throes of a complete overhaul.
-David.
At 08:30 AM 9/11/99 -0700, Jim Stevenson wrote:
>When will the man be available in ascii?
>
>Thanks.
>
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Larry-
Currently, the tutorials are available from my site only in Acrobat format.
To get these, download that Supplement.
At some point I could make them available in HTML, but it will be a while
(months, probably).
As for 2 versions, I have no opinion on that. Just go by version numbers.
If you would like to see a feature in mine it lacks, just let me know. It
could be worked into a future release.
-David.
At 12:43 AM 9/12/99 +0000, Larry Troxler wrote:
>I am concerned that there seems to be more than one version of the
>manual.
>
>David Booth has informed me that Jean Piche is now longer maintaining
>the HTML manual (he forwarded me a copy of a message Jean Piche sent to
>this list to that effect). The latest copy of the manual for version
>3.53 I had was from the Bath site, and substantially different from
>David Booth's version recently announced here. Each version has stuff
>that the other does not.
>
>Now, the FTP site at Bath is down (as John Fitch warned might happen),
>so I can't go check to see what is going on.
>
>I just want to see if everyone agrees that there should not be two
>seperate versions of the HTML manual floating around, and under the
>circumstances, all traces of the Piche version should be removed.
>
>On a related note : David, I could not find the tutorial section in your
>manual. Is there a reason you omitted it, or was this intentional?
>
>
>Larry Troxler
>
>
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David Boothe wrote:
>
> Larry-
>
> Currently, the tutorials are available from my site only in Acrobat format.
> To get these, download that Supplement.
>
> At some point I could make them available in HTML, but it will be a while
> (months, probably).
>
Ok, so who is maintaining the Csound manual? Someone please help me out
here!! The tutorials I mention were a part of the existing HTML manual
available at Bath!
> As for 2 versions, I have no opinion on that. Just go by version numbers.
I must be going insane. It doesn't bother you (or the rest of this list
for that matter), that we have apparently two seperate, non-equivalent
editions of the manual for one single piece of software floating around?
Someone please tell me I'm misunderstanding something here!
Now, when someone writes to this list about something they found or
couldn't find in the manual, we need to ask them "which manual are you
looking at?"
I really hope this is just a dream. I guess I'll find out when I wake
up tommorow...
Larry Troxler
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