Re: mod anyone ?

Date	1999-10-06 16:02
From	Varga István
Subject	Re: mod anyone ?
	pete moss wrote: > at home i normally use the unofficial linux csound, but at school (univ > of texas) we have 3.58 on the pcs. today i was trying to run a piece > that used the % operator. csound didnt understand it. so i rewrote it > to use the mod opcode, which got the same response. my linux version > does not have this problem. so whats up with mod in the official > version? official version compiled on linux works well for me (would you send the orchestra file, or at least the part that uses %) > also, related, whats with the bath server? i am still not > able to connect to it. montreal had 3.58 but i thought there was a 3.59 > now. Netscape and IE cannot connect to the bath server, while I am able to download files using FAR manager, or other ftp client programs Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa19480; 6 Oct 99 17:40 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Yt9b-0000NQ-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:38:55 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA1215295); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:36:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:35:49 +0100 Received: from ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.6.14] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA1109004); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:35:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from bigfoot.com (p126.amax23.dialup.aus2.flash.net [209.30.216.126]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03137; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:35:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37FB7AF4.EDBB4EB4@bigfoot.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:38:12 +0000 From: pete moss Organization: pete moss GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13-7mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Varga =?iso-8859-1?Q?Istv=E1n?= , "csound@maths.ex.ac.uk" Subject: Re: mod anyone ? References: <19991006150239.20786.qmail@freemail.c3.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by exeter.ac.uk id RAA1109004 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Varga Istv=E1n wrote: >=20 > pete moss wrote: >=20 > > at home i normally use the unofficial linux csound, but at school (un= iv > > of texas) we have 3.58 on the pcs. today i was trying to run a piece > > that used the % operator. csound didnt understand it. so i rewrote = it > > to use the mod opcode, which got the same response. my linux version > > does not have this problem. so whats up with mod in the official > > version? >=20 > official version compiled on linux works well for me (would you send > the orchestra file, or at least the part that uses %) sure, although i should mention that the offending version is consound 3.58. ia mod ib, ic says 'illegal opcode' or 'unknown opcode', cant remember the exact error code, but it hasnt heard of 'mod' ia =3D ib%ic it complains about the character '%', and fails. =20 the orchestra i am using runs fine on unofficial-linux-csound v 3.57.0.1e i also tried versions down to 3.55 from the montreal server and they gave the same problem. maybe an important c file is being left out of the official version. >=20 > > also, related, whats with the bath server? i am still not > > able to connect to it. montreal had 3.58 but i thought there was a 3= .59 > > now. >=20 > Netscape and IE cannot connect to the bath server, while I am able to > download files using FAR manager, or other ftp client programs thanks i will try that. =20 :P Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa19727; 6 Oct 99 18:44 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Yv7W-0003EN-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:44:54 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA1219382); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:41:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:40:52 +0100 Received: from mail3.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.51] by hermes via ESMTP (SAA1298647); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:40:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from uymfdlvk (host-209-214-180-58.cae.bellsouth.net [209.214.180.58]) by mail3.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.4alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id NAA13901 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003d01bf1021$a8c1c6a0$3ab4d6d1@uymfdlvk> From: Rob Howiler To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos Subject: OT: computer advice - follow up Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:38:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi CSounders I just wanted to express my thanks to everyone that offered advice about my upcoming computer purchase. I have thought it over and I think Michael Gogins had it right. I would need to learn MUCH to actually assemble (and research the parts, etc.) the computer of my dreams. At least for now, I would rather spend that time learning and experimenting more with CSound (and Logic, for that matter). As a recap of the advice I received: 1) go with SCSI - one person suggested Seagate Cheetah SCSI drives. 2) max out RAM - right now I am looking at 384 Meg (maybe more, depending on finances) 3) Probably go with a MOTU 2048 and 1224 digital and analog I/O system (although some folks expressed reservations about MOTU's PC support - I will still investigate Event, Lexicon and others) (I'm still open to suggestions if anyone out there has any more advice on their experiences) 4) SCSI CD-burner and CD-Rom (separate drives) 5) sundry additions (primarily a network card for printing Finale files) In any event, thank everyone for their advice, and thanks to the list for being supportive of my waste of bandwidth. I promise I won;t make a habit of it. Rob Howiler Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa19744; 6 Oct 99 18:52 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11YvEr-0003EP-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:52:29 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA1316826); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:49:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:49:10 +0100 Received: from dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2] by hermes via ESMTP (SAA1302566); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:49:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from seanet.com (cy42.dialup.seanet.com [207.12.136.42]) by mx.seanet.com (8.9.3/Seanet-8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09388 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37FB8D2D.E214119@seanet.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 10:55:57 -0700 From: Sean Costello X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound Subject: Gong Orc and Sco Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all: I have been experimenting with the passive nonlinear filters described by Scott Van Duyne in various publications. To test these out, I converted one of my reverb orchestras into a gong. The allpass coefficients in my orchestra have frequencies that are calculated using the bilinear z-transform, as I find this much easier to work with than values such as -.384. I have found that with allpass frequency values between 100 and 300 Hz, the delay line is detuned nicely. Even a single delay line (in the standard Karplus-Strong configuration) will sound bell-like with an allpass filter in this frequency range placed within the feedback loop. It is worth noting that Jens Groh posted an orchestra about a month ago that works on similar principles - a feedback delay network reverb, converted into a gong using the passive nonlinear filter. However, I didn't see his orchestra until I had completed mine. Convergent evolution is pretty cool! Sean Costello ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; gong.orc sr = 44100 kr = 44100 ksmps = 1 nchnls = 2 instr 99 ; Miller Puckette and John Stautner's ; Feedback Delay Network Reverb, ; converted into a gong afilt1 init 0 afilt2 init 0 afilt3 init 0 afilt4 init 0 adel1 init 0 adel2 init 0 adel3 init 0 adel4 init 0 alimit1 init 0 alimit2 init 0 alimit3 init 0 alimit4 init 0 alimita init 0 alimitb init 0 alimitc init 0 alimitd init 0 anoise=0 ipi = 3.141592654 idel1 = 1/p4 ilooptime = idel1 * 3 idel2 = 1/p4 * 2.25 idel3 = 1/p4 * 3.616 idel4 = 1/p4 * 5.06 iamp=p5 ipitchmod = p7 ; bilinear z-transform, used to convert frequencies in ; the .sco file for the passive nonlinear filter into ; coefficients that the allpass filter can use. The ; frequency corresponds to the 90 degree phase shift ; frequency of the allpass filter. ilimit1 = (1 - ipi * p8 / 44100) / (1 + ipi * p8 / 44100) ilimit2 = (1 - ipi * p9 / 44100) / (1 + ipi * p9 / 44100) ; A single period of a sine wave, with frequency ; corresponding to the longest delay length in ; the network, is used to "strike" the gong. krandenv linseg 1, ilooptime, 1, 0, 0, p3-ilooptime, 0 anoise oscili krandenv * p11, p4, 1 igain = p6 * 0.70710678117 ; gain of reverb ; used to add random pitch modulation to the ; delay lines. Useful for reverb, but not as ; useful in this application. k1 randi .001, 3.1, .06 k2 randi .0011, 3.5, .9 k3 randi .0017, 1.11, .7 k4 randi .0006, 3.973, .3 adum1 delayr 1 adel1a deltapi idel1 + k1 * ipitchmod delayw anoise + afilt2 + afilt3 ; Passive nonlinear filter, a la Scott Van Duyne ; and John Pierce. Essentially a single order ; allpass filter, where the coefficient switches ; between two different values, based upon the ; state of the delay line it is associated with. ; Produces effects similar to FM. In addition, ; if the allpass filter is tuned to a low frequency ; it will produce a "detuning" of the harmonics in ; the delay line that adds to the bell-like nature ; of the sound. kdel1 downsamp adel1a if kdel1 < 0 goto or klimit1 = ilimit1 goto next or: klimit1 = ilimit2 next: ax1 delay1 adel1a adel1 = klimit1 * (adel1a + adel1) - ax1 ; Repeat the above for the next 3 delay lines. adum2 delayr 1 adel2a deltapi idel2 + k2 * ipitchmod delayw anoise - afilt1 - afilt4 kdel2 downsamp adel2a if kdel2 < 0 goto or2 klimit2 = ilimit1 goto next2 or2: klimit2 = ilimit2 next2: ax2 delay1 adel2a adel2 = klimit2 * (adel2a + adel2) - ax2 adum3 delayr 1 adel3a deltapi idel3 + k3 * ipitchmod delayw anoise + afilt1 - afilt4 kdel3 downsamp adel3a if kdel3 < 0 goto or3 klimit3 = ilimit1 goto next3 or3: klimit3 = ilimit2 next3: ax3 delay1 adel3a adel3 = klimit3 * (adel3a + adel3) - ax3 adum4 delayr 1 adel4a deltapi idel4 + k4 * ipitchmod delayw anoise + afilt2 - afilt3 kdel4 downsamp adel4a if kdel4 < 0 goto or4 klimit4 = ilimit1 goto next4 or4: klimit4 = ilimit2 next4: ax4 delay1 adel4a adel4 = klimit4 * (adel4a + adel4) - ax4 afilt1 tone adel1 * igain, p10 afilt2 tone adel2 * igain, p10 afilt3 tone adel3 * igain, p10 afilt4 tone adel4 * igain, p10 outs (afilt1 + afilt3) * iamp, (afilt2 + afilt4) * iamp ga1 = 0 endin ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;gong.sco f1 0 16384 10 1 i99 1 25 200 5000 .999 0 100 200 10000 1.2 i99 6 20 150 5000 .999 0 100 300 10000 .8 i99 11 15 400 5000 .999 0 200 300 20000 1 e Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa20333; 6 Oct 99 23:38 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Yyje-0000VH-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:36:30 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA1266653); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:30:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:29:55 +0100 Received: from mail11.lax.netzero.net [209.247.162.44] by hermes via SMTP (XAA1266746); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:29:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 6507 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 1999 22:29:39 -0000 Received: from pppb32-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO jmcnult2) (4.16.207.91) by mail11.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 1999 22:29:39 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01bf104a$097a5660$5bcf1004@jmcnult2> From: Sherlock To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Varga_Istv=E1n?= MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos Subject: Re: mod anyone ? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:27:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by exeter.ac.uk id XAA1266746 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I was able to logon Maths and get Csound. Maths, not baths. -----Original Message----- From: Varga Istv=E1n To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:10 AM Subject: Re: mod anyone ? >pete moss wrote: > >> at home i normally use the unofficial linux csound, but at school (uni= v >> of texas) we have 3.58 on the pcs. today i was trying to run a piece >> that used the % operator. csound didnt understand it. so i rewrote i= t >> to use the mod opcode, which got the same response. my linux version >> does not have this problem. so whats up with mod in the official >> version? > >official version compiled on linux works well for me (would you send >the orchestra file, or at least the part that uses %) > >> also, related, whats with the bath server? i am still not >> able to connect to it. montreal had 3.58 but i thought there was a 3.= 59 >> now. > >Netscape and IE cannot connect to the bath server, while I am able to >download files using FAR manager, or other ftp client programs > > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa20341; 6 Oct 99 23:39 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Yykd-0000VM-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:37:31 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA1220726); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:36:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:36:07 +0100 Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64] by hermes via ESMTP (XAA1251681); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:36:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from Realizer (user-2ive4mf.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.18.207]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA30255; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Gogins To: Rob Howiler , csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos Subject: RE: computer advice - follow up Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:39:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003d01bf1021$a8c1c6a0$3ab4d6d1@uymfdlvk> Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sounds like a good setup. Don't forget some good mics and preamps, and make sure your audio recording software and hardware uses ASIO drivers (or the equivalent) so computer latency doesn't screw up real-time monitoring and overdubbing. -----Original Message----- From: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk [mailto:owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Rob Howiler Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 1:39 PM To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: OT: computer advice - follow up Hi CSounders I just wanted to express my thanks to everyone that offered advice about my upcoming computer purchase. I have thought it over and I think Michael Gogins had it right. I would need to learn MUCH to actually assemble (and research the parts, etc.) the computer of my dreams. At least for now, I would rather spend that time learning and experimenting more with CSound (and Logic, for that matter). As a recap of the advice I received: 1) go with SCSI - one person suggested Seagate Cheetah SCSI drives. 2) max out RAM - right now I am looking at 384 Meg (maybe more, depending on finances) 3) Probably go with a MOTU 2048 and 1224 digital and analog I/O system (although some folks expressed reservations about MOTU's PC support - I will still investigate Event, Lexicon and others) (I'm still open to suggestions if anyone out there has any more advice on their experiences) 4) SCSI CD-burner and CD-Rom (separate drives) 5) sundry additions (primarily a network card for printing Finale files) In any event, thank everyone for their advice, and thanks to the list for being supportive of my waste of bandwidth. I promise I won;t make a habit of it. Rob Howiler Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa21059; 7 Oct 99 7:19 BST Received: from [208.148.73.65] (helo=nerf.ulster.net ident=root) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Z5wL-0000i6-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:18:05 +0100 Received: from ulster.net (port14.ts2.ulster.net [208.242.164.14]) by nerf.ulster.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA12916; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 02:20:55 -0400 Sender: pw@ulster.net Message-ID: <37FC3D67.1927C864@ulster.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 02:27:51 -0400 From: Paul Winkler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Soundcard advice References: <9743-Tue05Oct1999205634+0100-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > > In a fit of uncharacteristic benevolence my Head of Department has > agreed to buy my student a Linux PC with soundcard. So, I am asking > all you knowledgeable people what soundcard should I ask for? I cannot give a definitive answer but I can refer you to my page that attempts to collect all available knowledge about this. I am making some minor relevant updates today, BTW. I will point out as always that the usefulness of a page of this sort depends entirely on the user submissions... so send some, people! linux audio-quality-HOWTO: http://www.ulster.net/~abigoo/pw_linux/Audio-Quality-HOWTO.html best, PW Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa21067; 7 Oct 99 7:23 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Z6xm-0003Uf-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:23:38 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA1375730); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:19:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:19:43 +0100 Received: from root@ulster.net [208.148.73.65] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA1356286); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:19:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from ulster.net (port14.ts2.ulster.net [208.242.164.14]) by nerf.ulster.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id CAA12916; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 02:20:55 -0400 Message-ID: <37FC3D67.1927C864@ulster.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 02:27:51 -0400 From: Paul Winkler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Soundcard advice References: <9743-Tue05Oct1999205634+0100-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > > In a fit of uncharacteristic benevolence my Head of Department has > agreed to buy my student a Linux PC with soundcard. So, I am asking > all you knowledgeable people what soundcard should I ask for? I cannot give a definitive answer but I can refer you to my page that attempts to collect all available knowledge about this. I am making some minor relevant updates today, BTW. I will point out as always that the usefulness of a page of this sort depends entirely on the user submissions... so send some, people! linux audio-quality-HOWTO: http://www.ulster.net/~abigoo/pw_linux/Audio-Quality-HOWTO.html best, PW Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa21114; 7 Oct 99 7:59 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Z6YS-0000iN-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:57:28 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA1313984); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:56:59 +0100 (BST) From: matthew.armour@immi.gov.au Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:56:48 +0100 Received: from bertha.au.csc.net [203.0.101.101] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA1352558); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:56:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from c3w-fwb (c3w-fwb [203.0.101.98]) by bertha.au.csc.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA12171 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:51:02 +1000 (EST) Received: by C3W-NOTES.AU.CSC.NET(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 4A256803.0025B9C9 ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:52:03 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IMMI@C3EXTERNAL To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Message-ID: <4A256803.0025B81E.00@C3W-NOTES.AU.CSC.NET> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:54:56 +1000 Subject: Does a class of sounds equate to a class of numerical solutions? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Isn't the class of a sound more accurately defined by the score? I seek a numerical method to define the palette of my sounds, only later to discover the canvas. Why all this dashing about with sine waves? The whole thing about art is that it defies the reductive explanation. So perhaps Csound wasn't my artist's tool any more than the wood-lathe and splines of my luthier? (no numbers or special characters have been harmed in the production of this musing). Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa21929; 7 Oct 99 12:07 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ZBOw-0003as-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:07:58 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA1404248); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:56:45 +0100 (BST) From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:56:33 +0100 Received: from www.publcs.dk [194.19.130.194] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA1363124); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:56:26 +0100 (BST) Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id MAA12549 for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:56:18 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:56:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199910071056.MAA12549@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: x986l8686 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Isn't the class of a sound more accurately defined by the score? uen humanz = klaSS!f! dze! != auear wh! >I seek dez!r != okupaz!on >a >numerical method to define the palette of my sounds, only later to discover the >canvas. > >Why all this dashing about with sine waves? 4 !t = azurez kredulouz apez >The whole thing about art is that >it defies the reductive explanation. So perhaps Csound wasn't my artist's tool >any more than the wood-lathe and splines of my luthier? + tzo sc!ensz = real!t! az rel!g!on = real!t! kredulouz apez = seek 2 azur kredulouz apez >(no numbers or special characters have been harmed in the production of this >musing). du = zur +_? `I` `my` `my` `my` `gov` =_? \| \|9\| [p-un_kT-pr_o-Tk_oL] f 3 \| herausgegeben vm !nternat!onalen !nst!tut f:ur ordnung \|+\| d!sz!pl!n : / / m9ndfukc.com e \| \| +---------- \| \| \\----------------+ \| \| e Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa21945; 7 Oct 99 12:09 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ZBQU-0003au-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:09:34 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (MAA1311779); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:02:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:01:56 +0100 Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (MAA1405417); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:01:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from [138.38.97.36] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ZALL-0000tW-00 for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:00:11 +0100 From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: [mpoirier@virtu.sar.usf.edu: 2 real-time Csound questions] Date: Thu, 7 Oct 99 12:01:50 BST Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:02:53 -0400 From: Marc 3 Poirier Subject: 2 real-time Csound questions Hello. I am a novice at real-time Csound & have a couple of questions: 1) Is it possible to have real-time sound output during instrument rendering & have that sound written to a file at the same time? 2) I want to use two controllers on my MIDI keyboard as my realtime inputs. What exactly do I have to do to do this? I have included these controller initializing statements in my ORC file (although I don't know whether they are necessary): initc7 imidchan, imodwheel, 0 initc7 imidchan, ivolume, 0 (In my ORC file, "imidchan" = 1, "imodwheel" = 1, & "ivolume" = 7.) I also included the -M flag in the command line when compiling in Consound. After it, I put "sbmidi" because the Csound help file says: - -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' (must be sbmidi) Csound crashes every time I run this instrument. When I render it in Winsound, there is a box for "MIDI Device" in the "Additional Arguements" window, but there are no options in the box, so I don't pick anything. Winsound crashes every time, too. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to do anything else? I use the latest versions of Winsound & Consound on Windows 98 & I use a Turtlebeach Pinnacle soundcard for my MIDI port. Thank you, Marc Poirier ------- End of forwarded message -------