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Re: SG album recorded using CSound?

Date1998-04-02 13:13
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SubjectRe: SG album recorded using CSound?
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What is Spice Girls?
==John ffitch



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What is Spice Girls?
==John ffitch



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Sorry to disappoint.  It refers to the -i and -o options, which allow
a file name starting with a | to mean a process.  Originally for mpeg
compression/decompression. 

What do you want ?  I am open to suggestions if enoght people
want/need some facility

=John



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Subject: Re: SG album recorded using CSound?
From: Daniel Fattorini 
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I hate to give the members of this list some, what may be considered
bad news, but I have been shown (I promise) the following credit on
the Spice Girls album "Spiceworld". I quote:

Many of the basic tracks on this album were realised on the CSound
computer software.

Someone please tell me that this is not true!

Cheers,

Ross-c

As a curious person who has heard the album I am not surprised to hear this.
The production is actuallly very well done although the content leaves a lot
to be desired. Mind you I can't exactly imagine that Ginger spice would be
able to tell you much about Gen routines!!!




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Subject: Virtual Synthesis-Sorry,poor definition!!
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Further to my original question, I didn't quite have my thinking cap on when
I sent the last question, what I was actually referring to were the various
techniques of Physical modelling, Anologue modelling and computer generated
speech where the are such an amount of paramaters one can control as to give
a "virtual instrument". They employ modelling of the actual processes that
go on inside an instrument rather than just trying to give a straight
synthesis of the sound produced. I am sorry if I did not quite define what I
meant in the original question but any help on this would be most gratefully
received.
                         Thanks,
                             Dan.



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Richard Dobson wrote:
> 
> I remember reading a posting on the comp.dsp newsgroup about this sort of
> problem, recommending that the gain be made ~very~ slightly greater than unity,
> and the output is clipped. Might that work here?

	I haven't tried but to get what one would expect from the
undamped harm. oscillator you may use a damped one (F-zv+kx=0) and
set z=k. Surprisingly(?) this works cleanly and exact.
The below orc/sco demonstrates this.

kd
;--------------start orc--------------------------
sr=44100
kr=44100
ksmps=1
nchnls=1

        instr   1
; harm. oscillator without damper
; F+kx=0 => M(v(n)-v(n-1))=-kx => x(n)-2x(n-1)+x(n-2)=-k/Mx(n) =>
; (1+k/M)x(n)=2x(n-1)-x(n-2) => x(n)=(M/M+k)(2x(n-1)-x(n-2))

im      init    10
ik      init    .01
ie      init    500     ; spring elongation at x(0)
ic      init    im/(im+ik)
ax0     init    0
ax1     init    0
ax2     init    -ie/ic  ; make x(0) = if

ax0     =       ic*(2*ax1-ax2)
        out     ax0
ax2     =       ax1
ax1     =       ax0

        endin

        instr 2
; harm. osc with damper
; F-zv+kx=0 => x(n)-2x(n-1)+x(n-2)=z/M(x(n)-x(n-1))-k/Mx(n) =>
; (1-z/M+k/M)x(n)=((M-z+k)/M)x(n)=(2-z/M)x(n-1)-x(n-2) =>
; x(n)=(M/(M-z+k))((2-z/M)x(n-1)-x(n-2))

im      init    10
ik      init    .01
iz      init    ik - p4 ; p4 actually damps (if positive)
ie      init    500     ; spring elongation at x(0)
ic1     init    im/(im-iz+ik)
ic2     init    2-iz/im
ax0     init    0
ax1     init    0
ax2     init    -ie/ic1 ; make x(0) = if

ax0     =       ic1*(ic2*ax1-ax2)
        out     ax0
ax2     =       ax1
ax1     =       ax0

        endin

;----------start score-------------------------------
i1 0 2
i2 2 2 .001
i2 4 2 0



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> Message written at 01 Apr 1998 21:21:11 +0100
> In-reply-to: <199804011738.XAA19835@bom2.vsnl.net.in> (message from Drew
> 	Skyfyre on Wed, 1 Apr 98 23:08:21 +0530)
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> 
> What is Spice Girls?
> ==John ffitch
> 
> 

I always thought that `Spice' was a Berkeley based simulation system for
analog electronics; Has some Women's studies group got a hold of it
or so ?

Hans Pelleboer


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> 
> Message written at 01 Apr 1998 21:21:11 +0100
> In-reply-to: <199804011738.XAA19835@bom2.vsnl.net.in> (message from Drew
> 	Skyfyre on Wed, 1 Apr 98 23:08:21 +0530)
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> 
> What is Spice Girls?
> ==John ffitch
> 
> 

I always thought that `Spice' was a Berkeley based simulation system for
analog electronics; Has some Women's studies group got a hold of it
or so ?

Hans Pelleboer



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> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech
> Subject: Announcement NEW 3-D soundcard: the "Convolver128 (tm)
> 
> 	PRESS RELEASE AP 4/1/98   FROM THE KALIX LABS
> 	Kalix INC. just announced their new soundcard called the
> Convolver128 (tm:)
> 	Here's sum so its specs:
> 	-Real stereophonic 3-D wave wavetable synthesis surroundsoud
> 	-16 megabits of onboard non-static non-interlacesd RAM
> 	-32 megabit level XXX cache
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> Get your credit card ready only US $199.05 Kalix's new 800 is:
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Dear Jim & bunch;

I hav tried to locate Kalix both on the net as well as in the abovementioned
newsgroup, but failed to find them on either.

Do you have a web address for me?

TNX,

Hans Pelleboer


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> 
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech
> Subject: Announcement NEW 3-D soundcard: the "Convolver128 (tm)
> 
> 	PRESS RELEASE AP 4/1/98   FROM THE KALIX LABS
> 	Kalix INC. just announced their new soundcard called the
> Convolver128 (tm:)
> 	Here's sum so its specs:
> 	-Real stereophonic 3-D wave wavetable synthesis surroundsoud
> 	-16 megabits of onboard non-static non-interlacesd RAM
> 	-32 megabit level XXX cache
> 	-onboard quadra piped dedicated 333MHz dual Pentium (tm) CPU
> 	-WIN '99 Plug & Pray compatibilitY
> 	
> Get your credit card ready only US $199.05 Kalix's new 800 is:
> 1-800 cskalix

Dear Jim & bunch;

I hav tried to locate Kalix both on the net as well as in the abovementioned
newsgroup, but failed to find them on either.

Do you have a web address for me?

TNX,

Hans Pelleboer



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>From owner-csound-outgoing@noether.ex.ac.uk Thu Apr  2 11:28:41 1998
To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk, csound@noether.ex.ac.uk
From: "Hans Pelleboer" 
Subject: Re: SG album recorded using CSound?

>----------
>> 
>> Message written at 01 Apr 1998 21:21:11 +0100
>> What is Spice Girls?
>> ==John ffitch
>> 
>> 
>
>I always thought that `Spice' was a Berkeley based simulation system for
>analog electronics; Has some Women's studies group got a hold of it
>or so ?
>
>Hans Pelleboer
	Berkeley is near Mills ( an all girls er womens college :)
soooooo maybe a whole girls college got a hold of it or so ;)

 

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From: "B. Battey" 
To: Jim Stevenson's reader 
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Subject: Re: Spice girls album recorded using CSound? @ Mills? ;)
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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Jim Stevenson's reader wrote:

> yesterday scientists in the USA revealed that beer contains
> small traces of female hormones.  To prove their theory
> they fed 100 men 12 pints of beer and observed that 100% of
> them started talking nonsense and couldn't drive.

ooops. particularly given the fact that electronic music culture is
overwhelmingly male and the discouragment and insensitivity that some
women have experienced when trying to work within its culture, such humor
is, I think, rather inappropriate for this forum. 
 
-=bret battey





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er, I think there may be a clue in the date; everyone knows Windows99 won't be
available until at least 2001...

RWD

Hans Pelleboer wrote:

> ----------
> >
> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech
> > Subject: Announcement NEW 3-D soundcard: the "Convolver128 (tm)
> >
> >       PRESS RELEASE AP 4/1/98   FROM THE KALIX LABS
> >       Kalix INC. just announced their new soundcard called the
> > Convolver128 (tm:)
> >       Here's sum so its specs:
> >       -Real stereophonic 3-D wave wavetable synthesis surroundsoud
> >       -16 megabits of onboard non-static non-interlacesd RAM
> >       -32 megabit level XXX cache
> >       -onboard quadra piped dedicated 333MHz dual Pentium (tm) CPU
> >       -WIN '99 Plug & Pray compatibilitY
> >
> > Get your credit card ready only US $199.05 Kalix's new 800 is:
> > 1-800 cskalix
>
> Dear Jim & bunch;
>
> I hav tried to locate Kalix both on the net as well as in the abovementioned
> newsgroup, but failed to find them on either.
>
> Do you have a web address for me?
>
> TNX,
>
> Hans Pelleboer






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I just got a message from the AIMI webmaster: the server was down
because they are upgrading it; it is back right now - maybe it'll
be a little shaky in the next few days please be patient...

Nicola

On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Richard Dobson wrote:

> I can't connect to it. Can you confirm the URL please?
> 
> Richard Dobson
> 
> Nicola Bernardini wrote:
> 
> > This is a follow up on the thread on parsing that took place
> > some time ago. I just completed a very initial stage version
> > of a yacc/lex skeleton parser. It does only orcs for now
> > and does not do semantic checking. You can find it in the
> > AIMI csound site:
> >
> > ftp://musart.dist.unige.it/pub/CSOUND/csound-parser-v0.0.tar.gz
> >
> 
> 




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> er, I think there may be a clue in the date; everyone knows Windows99
won't be
> available until at least 2001...

Gouverner c'est prevoir!

And serious folks ... seeing yesterday's priceless hardware today exchanged
for
a hot crust bun, goodness knows what to expect next!

Reminds me of the joke of the poor chinese on a bicycle who meets a bigshot
in a limo' and proposes to exchange their means of transportation, to which
the
guy in the car yells; you running off with my car, are you crazy! to which
the reply
follows: No, I am not, but I hoped that you were !
Yours, 

Hans Pelleboer



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Hear Hear

B. Battey wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Jim Stevenson's reader wrote:
>
> > yesterday scientists in the USA revealed that beer contains
> > small traces of female hormones.  To prove their theory
> > they fed 100 men 12 pints of beer and observed that 100% of
> > them started talking nonsense and couldn't drive.
>
> ooops. particularly given the fact that electronic music culture is
> overwhelmingly male and the discouragment and insensitivity that some
> women have experienced when trying to work within its culture, such humor
> is, I think, rather inappropriate for this forum.
>
> -=bret battey