| oops: Derek says that MIDI IN also works fine with Winsound and the
Pinnacle.
RWD
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>
> I dont have a soundblaster compatible soundcard (Its a Turtle Beach
> Multisound Pinnacle) and I'm guessing thats why I had trouble with
> -odevaudio and -Msbmidi.
>
> Is it possible to instruct csound or winsound to use the Win95 drivers for
> wavout and midi in?
>
> - lv
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not sure, as it isn't in my PPC system right now (excel hates it) and
manual not much help, but maybe QuicKeys 3.5 (be sure to download update
for PPC) using "Decision." anyway, can't believe there isn't freeware
already out there. anyone?
tolve
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Sorry. I intended to send that message to a blind programmers list, where the
etiquette is to put new comments before quotes, to avoid multiple listening
which is often difficult to skip. I do not expect the sighted majority to
change their usual stile. However, I do believe that many, blind or sighted,
do quote too much, and that many replies could stand on their own.
What blind users really need to function at all, is that developers incorperate
keybord commands to duplicate the mouse functions, and the option of text
output when at all possible. Bit mapped chars substituting for ascii are a
complete show stopper. These necessities are a trivial effort, when made a
design requirement from the start, but are saddly quite difficult to retrofit.
All too often, a small developer, or worse yet Micro$oft, the largest developer
in the world, will delay consideration of accessability to the blind, in a
rush to market their betas, and then pleed that retrofits are too expensive.
Cheers.
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When using winsound with -odevaudio, it finds four wavout devices on my
system (numbered 0 through 3) but then repeats the text 'Select device
number' and over and over. I've tried -odevaudio0, and -odac0, none of
which seem to work (they create files). How do I specify the wavout device
number?
I would imagine the midi-in device is specified using similar commandline
syntax, (or modifying the winsound.ini?) whatever it may be..
I checked the FAQ and even grepped the master unix source, but found
nothing.
Thanks!
- lv
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Subject: Win95 (3.47 beta) midi and devaudio
I dont have a soundblaster compatible soundcard (Its a Turtle Beach
Multisound Pinnacle) and I'm guessing thats why I had trouble with
-odevaudio and -Msbmidi.
Is it possible to instruct csound or winsound to use the Win95 drivers for
wavout and midi in?
- lv
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The message
Select device number
is expecting you to type a number. It may be that there is noone
listening to the terminal at that time I suppose.
I dislike adding new options, so at present I am not sure what one
shoudl do. i used to use device zero always, but someone objected.
I could add an Environment variable or something in the .ini file
reasonably easily. What do you suggest? I suppose I could even throw
up a dialog box at that time -- yeak.
==John
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I want to add a vibrato to a sinewave...now I have found this easy, but how
can I let the vibrato amplitude fading out over time ??
My aim is letting the vibrato amplitude being at 0% right when an
instrument
has finished its Performance...
is there a global system variable in Csound that contains the time ??
I'm sorry to bother you people with silly beginner's questions...but I'm
learning...
Why is Csound so unstructured ?? I would be FAR more easier when the
syntax was something like pascal or C...with brackets and all that..Csound
looks like a senseless list of numbers and cryptic abbreviations viewed
through
a programmers' eyes...
the ORC :
sr = 44100 ;samplerate
kr = 441 ;control samplerate
ksmps = 100 ;sr / kr
nchnls = 1 ;1=mono, 2=stereo
instr 1
kfreq = p5*100
kamp oscil kfreq/10,5,1
a1 oscil 10000,kfreq+kamp,1 ; amplitude, pitch, wavetablenumber
out a1
endin
the SCO :
;
; tablenum starttime size GEN strenght
f 1 0 256 10 1
; instrnum starttime duration amp freq
; P1 P2 P3 P4 P5
i 1 0 4 0 6
i 1 4 4 0 2
e
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would it be possible to make the table graphics (full not ascii) in Winsound
"step through" ala the Mills version? this would let people peek at
functions that they worked hard at designing and might have trouble
visualizing...
thanks
KIM
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David Schuyeteneer wrote:
>
> (...) how can I let the vibrato amplitude fading out over time ??
wrap it in an envelope that "lives" for p3, for example
> (...) Csound looks like a senseless list of numbers and cryptic
> abbreviations viewed through a programmers' eyes...
Well, you won't get around lists of numbers when you're writing elec-
tronic music in such a low-level way as this one. You could use another
interface to the scores, just like MIDI-capable software-sequencers,
since CSound instruments can be written to understand MIDI. You would
have to use some kind of MIDI loopback device to "plug" Csound into
the sofware, or if you have 2 MIDI controllers, you could slave one to
the other and let Csound "listen" to the slave. Hopefully, there may be
even simpler methods... Has any Csounder ever used such an approach-
and if yes, how do you do it ??
kd
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To all that can respond this question
I hope you are fine.
I would like to know if you can help me answering the next
questions:
I'm running Csound version 3.38 in INDY with Operative System
5.3, but I'm going to update to 6.2 OS version, do you think
is there any problem with that? 3.38 runs o.k. under 6.2?
If you receive this mail and have a free time for helping me,
I would apreciate your quick answer. Excuse me for being in
a hurry but I'm trying to do this tomorrow morning, before
the technical department goes out for vacations.
Thanks in advance
Armando Contreras
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>
> Now this is informative for programmers, but perhaps less so for others.
> Internally, Csound will work through its list of active orchestra
> instruments at K(ontrol) rate. At each such pass, audio (a-rate data)
i actually have been meaning to mention this to the list for the past
couple weeks -- but thanks for the post, rasmus.
this does relate to CSound users because sometimes you get weird
"stepping" errors that you wouldnt expect like this:
andx init 0
aout tablei andx,ifunc ;i'm too lazy to look up proper syntax here
andx = andx + 1
this would only work if you set sr=kr (which is not always a bad thing)
since the input to the "=" operator is copied and not changed for each
ksmps buffer lenght of samples. (to fix substitute the "interp"
operator for the "=")...
-m
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From: Hans Mikelson
Subject: cps2pch Opcode Unequal Temperament Fix
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Hello,
I asked a question about the new (3.46) cps2pch opcode a while back and
have since figured out what needs to be done to access an unequal
temperament table. It seems to have a rounding error if you enter your
pitch as a fraction ie: 7.00, 7.05, etc. It apparently just uses
int(frac(ipitch)*100) to access the table but do to floating point
inaccuracy you end up with 7.049999 about half of the time which ends up as
7.04 not 7.05. The formula should be int(frac(ipitch)*100+.5) so it rounds
up. Anyway you can make it work by adding .005 to everything.
Basically:
f4 0 17 -2 1.000 1.067 1.121 1.196 1.273 1.344 1.422 1.496 1.600 1.703
1.798 1.903 2.000 ; Werkmeister III
; Sta Dur Amp Pitch Wave Env Temperament
i2 0 .2 8000 7.00 1 3 4
itemp = p8
ifqc1 cps2pch p5+.005, -itemper
It also does not wrap around at 12 so if you want it to wrap around it gets
a bit more complex. I'll post the un-equal temperament strummer on my web
site soon.
Bye,
Hans Mikelson
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From: Lonce LaMar Wyse
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Subject: Re: Timelapse Variable wanted (MIDI sequencer)
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I have used the HUBIE MIDI loopback utility to run one application
generating MIDI msgs, and directed them to a simultaneously running
CSound process. I did this under Win95 and proved (yet again) what a
sorry OS it is. It "worked", but the sound was breaking up horribly
and no tweaking of buffer sizes was going to fix the fundamental
scheduling problem.
Of course, the ADI extended csound runs great driven by a MIDI
generaating application. The other alternative to compensate for the
lack of Win95 support for real multiple processes, is to run your MIDI
app on one computer, and send MIDI msgs over a cable to another! It
does work - don't throw out your old 486's!
> Well, you won't get around lists of numbers when you're writing elec-
> tronic music in such a low-level way as this one. You could use another
> interface to the scores, just like MIDI-capable software-sequencers,
> since CSound instruments can be written to understand MIDI. You would
> have to use some kind of MIDI loopback device to "plug" Csound into
> the sofware, or if you have 2 MIDI controllers, you could slave one to
> the other and let Csound "listen" to the slave. Hopefully, there may be
> even simpler methods... Has any Csounder ever used such an approach-
> and if yes, how do you do it ??
- lonce
Lonce Wyse
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From: Richard Dobson
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To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: Timelapse Variable wanted (MIDI sequencer)
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I am very interested in this - can you post details of HUBIE?
As I understand it, the real requirement is for a proper multi-process
device driver for MIDI (which many are not) - ie one app writes MIDI
messages, and another reads them. I have heard of commercial
applications which do this sucessfully, eg the output of a pitch/MIDI
converter program being read directly by Logic Audio, etc. So I have yet
to be convinced this is really a failing of Win95. It IS multi-tasking,
but the 'standard' Windows MMedia spec for MIDI does not appear to
provide for internal pipes between MIDI OUT and IN.
On the other hand, if I have got this completely WRONG, I would love to
hear how it can be done!
Richard Dobson
Lonce LaMar Wyse wrote:
>
> I have used the HUBIE MIDI loopback utility to run one application
> generating MIDI msgs, and directed them to a simultaneously running
> CSound process. I did this under Win95 and proved (yet again) what a
> sorry OS it is. It "worked", but the sound was breaking up horribly
> and no tweaking of buffer sizes was going to fix the fundamental
> scheduling problem.
>
> Of course, the ADI extended csound runs great driven by a MIDI
> generaating application. The other alternative to compensate for the
> lack of Win95 support for real multiple processes...
[snip]
> Lonce Wyse
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From: "Matt J. Ingalls"
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Subject: Re: (pseudo) random generat
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its in the "MSWord_Manuals.sea.hqx" package.
-m
>
> "NewOpcodes2.README" sounds intriguing...
> I've looked through my old downloads of csound.ppc and can't find a trace of it. Is it up on the mills server somewhere?
>
> Grant.
>
> ==
> > >iunirand, kunirand, aunirand. Covered in the manual
> >
> > Which manual? In mine (the one which came with the ppc version) they don't
> > seem to be covered, nor are in the old word-format manual.
> > Where could i find a complete one?
>
> it used to be in a document called "NewOpcodes2.README" distributed with
> the csound.ppc package (written by Robin Whittle) .. is it not there
> now?
>
> -matt
>
>
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From: Lonce LaMar Wyse
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Richard,
> I am very interested in this - can you post details of HUBIE?
HUBI's Loopback MIDI device is public domain software that allows you
to route, split, etc. MIDI messages between different apps running on
the same computer. There are zillions of download sites - just search
on it. It is fairly easy to install and use.
- lonce
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From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: table graphics
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Message written at 18 Dec 1997 21:38:03 +0000
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A pause at the end of each graph would be reasonable easy. What
exactly does the Mills system do? I do not remember anything in
particular. I did after all introduce that feature in the first DOS
port I did years back.
==John
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