I am NOT good at English.

Date	1999-04-25 12:08
From	Kanata Motohashi
Subject	I am NOT good at English.
	I have begun to use Csound and really want to get information about it but have to spend BIG time for reading A message with my English dictionary. I have got information about only real war and OS war from this list. The great Csound is used by people who live in the whole world. I am NOT good at English but really want to get information about the great Csound. Is this selfish? Kanata Motohashi Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03891; 26 Apr 99 19:31 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bqA3-0001KZ-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:31:19 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA03430); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:29:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:29:20 +0100 Received: from hromeo.algonet.se [194.213.74.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA12044); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:29:19 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11017 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 20:29:17 +0200 Received: from du118-26.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.26.118) by hromeo.algonet.se with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 20:29:17 +0200 From: Anders Andersson To: The CSound mailinglist Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:29:44 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Rolloff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello! I wonder how steep the rolloff are in the basic "tone" and "reson" filters? (in dB) (If they are measurable) (I guess they depend on the sr?) // Anders Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03990; 26 Apr 99 20:13 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bqoS-0005MD-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:13:04 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA01462); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:57:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:57:42 +0100 Received: from root@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.103] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA13688); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:57:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from astro.temple.edu (30e320a1.dorm.temple.edu [155.247.150.23]) by typhoon.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25297; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3724B6A8.CBC3DDBB@astro.temple.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:55:36 -0400 From: Kevin Gallagher X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kanata Motohashi CC: Csound mailing list Subject: Re: I am NOT good at English. References: <009e01be8f0c$5db9f4c0$7d86acd2@a.computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If you are interested in a Japanese Csound manual, there is one at: http://ringo.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~yasaka/csound-j/ Check the Csound Front Page for other resources: http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Man/c_front.html With regards to posts about real wars and OS wars, I assure you that this has only happened during the last few weeks...this is normally a very useful, helpful, and on-topic list. Good luck! Kanata Motohashi wrote: > I have begun to use Csound > and really want to get information about it > but have to spend BIG time for reading A message > with my English dictionary. > > I have got information about only real war and OS war > from this list. > > The great Csound is used by people who live in the whole world. > I am NOT good at English > but really want to get information about the great Csound. > > Is this selfish? > > Kanata Motohashi -- Kevin Gallagher Composer, Guitarist, Music Copyist, Music Synthesist Email: kgallagh@astro.temple.edu Web site: http://astro.temple.edu/~kgallagh Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04052; 26 Apr 99 21:01 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10brZH-0005N7-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:01:27 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (UAA06270); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:58:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:58:14 +0100 Received: from root@www.inx.de [195.21.255.251] by hermes via SMTP (UAA08030); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:58:13 +0100 (BST) Received: by www.inx.de (Smail3.2.0.96inx) from berlin.snafu.de (195.21.164.84) with esmtp id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:58:11 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3724E1A8.250391F7@berlin.snafu.de> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:59:06 +0000 From: Andre Bartetzki Organization: STEAM HfM Berlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound Mailing List Subject: nsamp() error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, has anyone ever used the nsamp() function? I want to set the duration of an event to the length of a soundfile in f1 (GEN01) this way: p3 = nsamp(1) / sr but it seems that nsamp is unknown to csound: ------------------------- orch compiler: 20 lines read instr 1 error: illegal opcod from expr anal, line 10: p3 = nsamp(1) / sr error: input arg '#i0' used before defined, line 10: p3 = nsamp(1) / sr 2 syntax errors in orchestra. compilation invalid ------------------------- Although nsamp is listed by the -z flag! I've got this error both with 3.51 (Mills Mac version) and 3.53 (IRIX binary). What's wrong here? Andre -------------------------------------------------- Andre Bartetzki http://www.kgw.tu-berlin.de/~abart Deutsche Gesellschaft fuer elektroakustische Musik - DEGEM http://www.kgw.tu-berlin.de/~degem Studio fuer elektroakustische Musik http://www.kgw.tu-berlin.de/~abart/Steam/steam.html Hochschule fuer Musik Berlin http://www.hfm-berlin.de Tel. +49-30-42800760 Tel. +49-30-203092488 -------------------------------------------------- Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04058; 26 Apr 99 21:02 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10braB-0005NA-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:02:23 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (UAA12761); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:59:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:59:42 +0100 Received: from hromeo.algonet.se [194.213.74.10] by hermes via SMTP (UAA00804); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:59:41 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 17625 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 21:59:39 +0200 Received: from du98-26.ppp.algonet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.26.98) by hromeo.algonet.se with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 21:59:39 +0200 From: Anders Andersson To: The CSound mailinglist Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:00:06 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19990425181104.GJLO3147.fep04-svc@fabio-bizzetti> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0Preview7 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Subject: Almost as offtopic as Fabios mail.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk /**************************************************** ** OFF TOPIC REPLY ON A OFF TOPIC MAIL!! DON'T READ ***************************************************/ > Dear K., > Yesterday I was truly too tired (no sleep in the > previous 48 hours) to make a serious reasoning. Some strange Italian demoparty going on, or what? =) > it's not McDonald's food the cause of all this > menthal sickness. ;) Although it's the cause of many other sicknesses.. =) > Before I say the following words, I've to say I'm > personally (for my own reasons) against drugs, i.e. > I don't use any. Yet, I think it's my own right to > decide if I want to use them or not... not my State's > "right". I agree! Even though I'd prefer to see that nobody uses drugs of anykind, It's up to each and every person to decide that for themselves. Personally, I don't even drink alcohol, but, as I said.. that's my choice, and may not reflect the others.. > Because to be a good capitalist you need to block your > sociable feelings: you should cease to consider other > human beings as human beings but just as things which > can bring you money and power. But, as we know, humans > are not machines and this doesn't quite work after a > bit, and produces severe psychosis. You have to learn to > be selfish, that is highly non-sociable. Keeping the people 100% True! > democracy there's no choice. In places like the USA > only a big revolution could change anything.. of course > this doesn't apply to much more civil countries like > Switzerland or Sweden, or some others. Well.. Let's look at the USA and the world from the 'beginning', as I see it. In the beginning there where natives. In America, in Europe, and the rest of the world. Then something happened. America was 'discovered'. A new continent. This is what happened then: The capitalists in the rest of the world started to compete about the new resources; The one that died richest would win. The capitalists founded USA. Then the weak people in Europe, the ones that wouldn't work* for food, or the ones that wasn't happy with what they had emigrated to USA from Europe. To steal the 'new' land from the native indians. What did they end up with? A whole new country filled with capitalists and thieves.. What a great way to start on! =) // Anders (Not so serious this time..) (note1: I may choose to reply on your replys, or not.. =D) (note2: Ofcourse, this doesn't mean that all ppl in USA are capitalists and/or thieves, only the goverment..) (note3: Remember.. USA=Windows) (note4: This mail was written ONLY to make people think, and not to upset) Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04125; 26 Apr 99 21:47 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bsI2-0005OJ-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:47:42 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (VAA06566); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:36:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:35:58 +0100 Received: from Thuban.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.53.8] (may be forged) by hermes via ESMTP (VAA13275); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:35:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from [134.173.54.17] (Presume17.Rmt.HMC.Edu [134.173.54.17]) by THUBAN.AC.HMC.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #36444) with ESMTP id <01JAHOJ8D9YE9TLUYH@THUBAN.AC.HMC.EDU> for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:35:54 PST Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:34:18 -0700 From: Erik Spjut Subject: Re: Rolloff In-reply-to: X-Sender: spjut@thuban.ac.hmc.edu To: Anders Andersson , The CSound mailinglist Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Roll-off gets really steep close to sr/2 (typical of digital filters) but is 20dB/decade or 12dB/octave for tone and 40dB/decade or 24 dB/octave for reson in the transition range (if Fcutoff/sr is small enough to have one). At 8:29 PM +0200 4/26/99, Anders Andersson wrote: >Hello! > >I wonder how steep the rolloff are in the basic "tone" and "reson" filters? >(in dB) >(If they are measurable) >(I guess they depend on the sr?) > > >// Anders ---------------------------------------------------------------- Prof. R. Erik Spjut (spyoot rhymes with cute) Engineering Department, Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711 erik_spjut@hmc.edu Ph. (909) 607-3890 Fax (909) 621-8967 Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04158; 26 Apr 99 22:05 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bsYs-0005Og-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:05:06 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA13706); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:02:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:02:21 +0100 Received: from eos.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.118.20] by hermes via ESMTP (WAA09984); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:02:14 +0100 (BST) Received: (from jim-ra@localhost) by eos.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA22481; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:01:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:01:37 -0700 From: "Dr J.Stevenson's research assistant" Message-Id: <199904262101.OAA22481@eos.arc.nasa.gov> To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, fabzt@tin.it Subject: Re: time for some more offtopic Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk < bullshit, about HS snipped > where do you get your misinformation? From Matt Drudge? Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04185; 26 Apr 99 22:19 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bsn2-0005P2-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:19:44 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA00129); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:18 +0100 Received: from eos.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.118.20] by hermes via ESMTP (WAA07942); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:16 +0100 (BST) Received: (from jim-ra@localhost) by eos.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA22607; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:08:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:08:11 -0700 From: "Dr J.Stevenson's research assistant" Message-Id: <199904262108.OAA22607@eos.arc.nasa.gov> To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, pipe@algonet.se Subject: Re: Almost as offtopic as Fabios mail.. Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > off topic: READ IT IF YA FEEL LIKE IT OR DON'T IF YA DON'T :^P DAMN SOCIALISTS :^) >Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so >ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04224; 26 Apr 99 22:50 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10btGs-0001OQ-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:50:35 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA06554); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:48:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:47:59 +0100 Received: from out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252] by hermes via ESMTP (WAA05354); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:47:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-101-210-94.dc.us.ibm.net [32.101.210.94]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA108104 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:47:56 GMT Message-ID: <3724E01D.9C5CC17@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:52:29 -0400 From: "Job M. van Zuijlen" Reply-To: zuijlen@ibm.net Organization: electona X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound List Subject: Re: Almost as offtopic as Fabios mail.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Besides capitalists and thieves, there were those how emigrated for religious reasons. I lived here (the USA) long enough to be called an immigrant, so I suppose I'll have to make up my mind to which category I (want to) belong? Job (Yo B. Cool) van Zuijlen /**************************************************** ** OFF TOPIC REPLY TO AN OFF TOPIC REPLY ON A OFF TOPIC MAIL!! DON'T READ ***************************************************/ Anders Anderson bracht naar voren: > > What did they end up with? A whole new country filled with capitalists > and thieves.. What a great way to start on! =) > > // Anders (Not so serious this time..) > > (note1: I may choose to reply on your replys, or not.. =D) > (note2: Ofcourse, this doesn't mean that all ppl in USA are capitalists > and/or thieves, only the goverment..) > (note3: Remember.. USA=Windows) > (note4: This mail was written ONLY* to make people think, and not to upset) Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04277; 26 Apr 99 23:23 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10btmR-0001Oz-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:23:11 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA02224); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:22:15 +0100 (BST) From: SteinersT1@aol.com Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:22:03 +0100 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1] by hermes via ESMTP (XAA04930); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:22:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from SteinersT1@aol.com (4419) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 9DOSa10058 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4030292f.24563f8f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:15:43 EDT Subject: hTools.tar.gz To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 23 Reply-To: SteinersT1@aol.com Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, I just upload the java-commandoline tools of hYdra, the adsyn editor, as a tar.gz version primaly for Unix users. Check it out at: http://members.aol.com/additiv Tomorrow I hope to test the available GUI Java Version of hYdra on MAC and Linux... Greetings, Malte Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04284; 26 Apr 99 23:27 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10btqX-0005Pv-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:27:25 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA00920); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:26:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:26:22 +0100 Received: from ccrma.Stanford.EDU [36.49.0.84] by hermes via ESMTP (XAA17903); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:26:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccrma.stanford.edu ([207.97.74.57]) by ccrma.stanford.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01856; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3724E62C.8F961D59@ccrma.stanford.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:18:20 -0400 From: Tobias Kunze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zuijlen@ibm.net CC: Csound List Subject: Re: Almost as offtopic as Fabios mail.. References: <3724E01D.9C5CC17@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Besides capitalists and thieves, there were those how emigrated > for religious reasons. But mind you--most of these "thieves" weren't actually felons. Check out the new book by Scott Christiansen: "With Liberty for Some: 500 Years of Imprisonment in America", Northeastern University Press (reviewed in the February 13 issue of the Economist, Review of Books & Multimedia). In short, many prisoners the "land of the free" relied on for forced labour on plantations, etc. were actually simply kidnapped street kids from London. One of the big winners of this system by the way was. So, i'd add the kidnapped to your list :) -Tobias Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04294; 26 Apr 99 23:30 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10btt9-0001P5-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:30:07 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA02451); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:29:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:28:55 +0100 Received: from ccrma.Stanford.EDU [36.49.0.84] by hermes via ESMTP (XAA17999); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:28:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccrma.stanford.edu ([207.97.74.57]) by ccrma.stanford.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01892; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3724E6C5.4B69484@ccrma.stanford.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:20:53 -0400 From: Tobias Kunze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zuijlen@ibm.net CC: Csound List Subject: Re: Almost as offtopic as Fabios mail.. References: <3724E01D.9C5CC17@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Uh-oh, forgot to actually mention the name :) Washington. One of the big winners of this system by the way was George Washington. Sorry. Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04418; 27 Apr 99 0:32 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10burR-0001Sn-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:32:25 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (AAA11825); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:30:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:30:34 +0100 Received: from dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2] by hermes via ESMTP (AAA13513); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:30:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from seanet.com (cy10.dialup.seanet.com [207.12.136.10]) by mx.seanet.com (8.9.3/Seanet-8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19949 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3724F885.961DC18D@seanet.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:36:37 -0700 From: Sean Costello X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound Subject: Winsound not compiling in MSVC++ version 6.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Csound powers that be: I am trying to compile Winsound from the Bath sources on my Win 98 machine, using MS Visual C++ 6.0 Professional. After having numerous errors, linking the needed .c and .h files into the project, and other various and sundry annoyances (I think that the VSC++ 6.0 library has at least one file that is completely screwed up), I end up with the following error message: Linking... MAIN.OBJ : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _all_free .\WinDebug/winsound.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals Error executing link.exe. The symbol all_free is found in main.c, memalloc.c, and prototyp.h. In particular, it is used in the following lines: #ifdef CWIN cwin_atexit(all_free); #endif cwin_atexit is defined earlier as #ifdef CWIN cwin_atexit(all_free); #endif OK, I am no C programming whiz, so anyone know what is going on in here? Better yet, is there a distribution of the source code in which the project file is the one that is actually USED to create the current Winsound binary? I had over 100 errors the first time I tried to compile it. Thanks, Sean Costello P.S. Do people normally use MSVC++ version 6.0 to compile Winsound? Should I reinstall version 4.0? Are there any bug fixes for version 6.0 that are relevant to compiling Csound? Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04519; 27 Apr 99 1:38 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bvtB-0005U1-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:38:17 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (BAA13611); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:35:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:35:18 +0100 Received: from howl.werewolf.net [12.23.152.10] by hermes via ESMTP (BAA00917); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:35:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dial56.werewolf.net [12.23.153.56]) by howl.werewolf.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA16926 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:26:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003b01be9046$b4a9f420$3899170c@default> From: Hans Mikelson To: Csound Subject: Recommended Xenakis? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:41:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Can someone recommend a good representative Xenakis recording? Thanks, Hans Mikelson Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04552; 27 Apr 99 2:05 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bwJW-0005UX-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:05:30 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (CAA12816); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:04:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:04:39 +0100 Received: from mercury.cc.oberlin.edu [132.162.1.220] by hermes via ESMTP (CAA09067); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:04:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by oberlin.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #29794) with SMTP id <0FAT00001PN4MA@oberlin.edu> for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:04:16 -0400 (EDT) From: jim altieri Subject: Re: Recommended Xenakis? In-reply-to: <003b01be9046$b4a9f420$3899170c@default> To: Hans Mikelson Cc: Csound Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Hans Mikelson wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone recommend a good representative Xenakis recording? > the most recent release of kraanerg is pretty badass. dj spooky messed with the old recording and mixed it in with a new recording. but if you're looking for his electronic music, there's a "best of" type of album for his electronic works. "electronic works of iannis xenakis" type of thing. xenakis is so damn cool. half of his face was blown off in a war. (trying to relate xenakis to recent topics...) love and stochastic motion, jim altieri Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04587; 27 Apr 99 2:31 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bwiU-0001UD-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:31:18 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (CAA01958); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:30:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:52 +0100 Received: from mailer3.bham.ac.uk [147.188.128.54] by hermes via SMTP (CAA07084); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from bham.ac.uk by mailer3.bham.ac.uk with SMTP (XT-PP) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:52 +0100 Received: from isdux1.bham.ac.uk (actually host isdugp.bham.ac.uk) by bham.ac.uk with SMTP (XT-PP) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:51 +0100 Received: from iceman by isdux1.bham.ac.uk (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/14Aug95-0452PM) id CAA0000028558; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00c701be904c$f240cd80$0287bc93@iceman> From: Jamie Bullock To: Csound List Subject: Re: Recommended Xenakis? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:25:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I don't think recordings of Xenakis' music are particularly abundant. There are two classic recordings on the Montaigne label; the first is a selection of chamber music from 1955-1990 [MO 782005] - valiantly performed by the Arditti Quartet and Claude Helffer, the second is La Legend d'Eer [MO 782058] for 8-channel tape. The first release gives a good feeling for Xenakis' general stylistic and technical evolution whilst La Legend d'Eer is probably his most extensive contribution to electroacoustic music. I wish you the best of luck! regards -jb On April 27th Hans Mikelson wrote: >Can someone recommend a good representative Xenakis recording? > >Thanks, >Hans Mikelson > > Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04668; 27 Apr 99 3:11 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bxLg-0005VM-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:11:48 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (DAA04887); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:10:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:10:12 +0100 Received: from out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252] by hermes via ESMTP (DAA14733); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:10:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-49-31.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.49.31]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA20918 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:10:08 GMT Message-ID: <37251D94.542B4DB0@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:14:44 -0400 From: "Job M. van Zuijlen" Reply-To: zuijlen@ibm.net Organization: electona X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound List Subject: Re: Winsound not compiling in MSVC++ version 6.0 References: <3724F885.961DC18D@seanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have been able to compile Csound using MSVC++ version 5.0, but that must have been around version 3.48 (last year). I do remember having to do a lot of editing to the makefile to get a decent project file (at least I think that's how I did it). Job van Zuijlen Sean Costello wrote: > > > P.S. Do people normally use MSVC++ version 6.0 to compile Winsound? > Should I reinstall version 4.0? Are there any bug fixes for version 6.0 > that are relevant to compiling Csound? Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04708; 27 Apr 99 3:37 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bxkC-0005Vl-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:37:08 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (DAA13285); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:35:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:35:02 +0100 Received: from mail1.c-bridge.com [199.92.202.99] by hermes via ESMTP (DAA08622); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:35:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.c-bridge.com (mail2.c-bridge.com [199.93.167.10]) by mail1.c-bridge.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA08037; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:33:59 -0400 Received: by mail2.c-bridge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:33:54 -0400 Message-ID: <87E25BFE149AD21194CC00A0C999D9892A79B2@mail2.c-bridge.com> From: Grant Covell To: Hans Mikelson , Csound Subject: RE: Recommended Xenakis? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:33:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just one? Let me haul out the Xenakis stack... "Xenakis: Electronic Music", EMF CD 003 For Electronic stuff, you want to get the older works, which have only been recently re-released on this CD. Bohor, Diamorphoses and Concret PH are from 1958-60 and reflect working with simple materials. Concret PH is the piece also played in LeCorbusier's structure that Varese's Poeme was played in. "Iannis Xenakis 2: La Legende d'Eer", Montaigne MO 782058 This was already mentioned, but between these two CDs you get the full compass of Xenakis' electronic work. This latter work was composed using a sort of graphing tablet that IX had developed for him. "Iannis Xenakis: Phlegra, Jalons, Keren, Nomos Alpha", Erato 2292-45770-2 A representative CD of the smaller chamber works. I find Phlegra a real masterpiece: raucous, brash and obnoxious. The EnsembleIntercontemporain are the featured performers. This may be out of print. "Iannis Xenakis: Musique de Chambre", Montaigne MO 782005 Also already mentioned, but this completes a survey of the smaller chamber works, though the emphasis is on strings and piano only. Herma is a crucial IX work 'cause of the set theory behind it. ST/4 is one of those stochasitic works generated by computer for traditional instruments. Kraanerg was already mentioned too, but I find the better recording to be on Etcetera (KTC 1075) with Alpha Centuri Ensemble and Roger Woodward (he plays a lot of piano stuff like Xenakis and Feldman). There's more ambient denseness in the interaction between tape and instruments in this. Xenakis' percussion writing is also crucial: Okho is accessible and recorded rather frequently, but Pleiades is the one to seek out. Les Percussions de Strasbourg is the definitive ensemble on Denon 81757 3678 2. I think their Harmonia Mundi release is still in print too. Historically, Xenakis' first compositions for orchestra , Metastasis and Pithropratka are worth seeking, but they're on LPs or in big bulky bricks that cover retrospectives of the major contemporary music festivals (Metastatsis is on a 4CD brick on Col Legno, 40 Jahre Donaueschinger Musiktage 1950-1990, Col Legno AU-031800). And if completeness (obsession) is what you're after, Jonchaies for orchestra is on another 5CD brick from Col Legno: 20 ans de musique contemporaine a Metz, Col Legno AU 31830. There is also a work for piano and orchestra, Keqrops, on Wien Modern III featuring Woodward again, and Claudio Abbado on DG 447115-2. While I applaud the two series now out there on Mode and Vandenburg, I'm not that excited by the performances or the actual IX works. IX vocal music loses me: you can see my bias is for electronic, orchestral and percussion. Essentially, he handles all very much the same. And if you have to get just one, get the one on Erato. For two add the EMF one. For three, add a percussion one. Grant. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Mikelson [mailto:hljmm@werewolf.net] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 8:42 PM > To: Csound > Subject: Recommended Xenakis? > > > Hi, > > Can someone recommend a good representative Xenakis recording? > > Thanks, > Hans Mikelson > Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04919; 27 Apr 99 6:24 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10c0Lq-0001bC-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:24:10 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (GAA14150); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:22:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:22:36 +0100 Received: from root@bohm.anu.edu.au [150.203.21.88] by hermes via ESMTP (GAA06151); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:22:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from [150.203.14.13] (snagglepuss.anu.edu.au [150.203.14.13]) by bohm.anu.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23290 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:22:28 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:22:28 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199904270522.PAA23290@bohm.anu.edu.au> To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk From: Arne Hanna Subject: Markov Chains Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With a view to writing a csound score generator (honest!), I'm researching the implimentation of Markov Chains in algorithmic composition. I've read up on Hiller and Isaacson's Illiac Suite, M, and Jam Factory, but if anyone out there has some experience they wouldn't mind sharing, I'd love to hear from you. Does anyone know if M, and Jam Factory are still going concerns? A net search produces plenty of references, but no indication of either program's state of health. Cheers Arne Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04977; 27 Apr 99 6:59 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10c0uS-0001bj-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:59:56 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (GAA10647); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:59:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:59:05 +0100 Received: from root@renoir.op.net [209.152.193.4] by hermes via ESMTP (GAA03156); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:59:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from op.net (d-bm3-03.ppp.op.net [209.152.194.67]) by renoir.op.net (o1/$Revision: 1.18 $) with ESMTP id BAA18984 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pbd@localhost) by op.net ($Revision: 1.2 $) id BAA10841; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:57:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:57:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199904270557.BAA10841@op.net> From: Paul Barton-Davis To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: where to start for a "basic" filter Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk i want to write a fairly basic filter for Quasimodo, but its unclear to me amongst the plethora of filtering opcodes that Csound provides what to use. I'm thinking of something with most of the following features: independent LP, BP and HP outputs, cutoff frequency, adjustable db/oct curve, resonance. What are my best options ? --thanks --p Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa05003; 27 Apr 99 7:08 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10c12U-0005cc-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:08:14 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA13388); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:07:33 +0100 (BST) From: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:07:22 +0100 Received: from anago.wwa.com [198.49.174.54] by hermes via SMTP (HAA01282); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:07:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from [207.241.63.122](really [207.241.63.122]) by anago.wwa.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:07:20 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #88 built 1997-Nov-30) Message-Id: X-Sender: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:32:29 -0600 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Markov Chains Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Does anyone know if M, and Jam Factory are still going concerns? A net >search produces plenty of references, but no indication of either program's >state of health. m = al!v although prznl! = regard az unvtfl muzt note dzat != v fond ov dav!d z!karell! hensz op!n!on = ma! b b!aszd abr != l!kl! Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa05111; 27 Apr 99 8:45 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10c2Yd-0005dw-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:45:31 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA17746); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:44:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:44:22 +0100 Received: from zit-108.irt.de [194.172.230.108] by hermes via ESMTP (IAA10283); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:44:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from pctb151 (pctb151.irt.de [192.168.3.151]) by nett.irt.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07338 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:44:01 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:44:01 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199904270744.JAA07338@nett.irt.de> X-Sender: groh@mail X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk From: Jens Groh Subject: Re: nsamp() error Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Andre Bartetzki wrote: >[...] >has anyone ever used the nsamp() function? >[...] >but it seems that nsamp is unknown to csound: >[...] >Although nsamp is listed by the -z flag! >[...] >I've got this error both with 3.51 (Mills Mac version) and 3.53 (IRIX binary). >[...] >What's wrong here? >[...] I noticed the same for version 3.52 (DirectCsound 2.7). Jens Groh Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa05170; 27 Apr 99 9:19 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10c35L-0005ex-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:19:19 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (JAA17255); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:18:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:17:56 +0100 Received: from popeye.latrobe.edu.au [131.172.4.60] by hermes via ESMTP (JAA02126); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:17:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from [131.172.160.53] (hu2-322.media.latrobe.edu.au [131.172.160.53]) by popeye.latrobe.edu.au (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA14533 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:17:45 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: mustpm@pop.latrobe.edu.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904270522.PAA23290@bohm.anu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:20:01 +1000 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk From: Terry McDermott Subject: Re: Markov Chains Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For M you can try David Zicarelli's "Cycling '74" web site. There is a new PPC version. >With a view to writing a csound score generator (honest!), I'm researching >the implimentation of Markov Chains in algorithmic composition. >I've read up on Hiller and Isaacson's Illiac Suite, M, and Jam Factory, but >if anyone out there has some experience they wouldn't mind sharing, I'd >love to hear from you. >Does anyone know if M, and Jam Factory are still going concerns? A net >search produces plenty of references, but no indication of either program's >state of health. > >Cheers >Arne Terry McDermott Music Department School of Arts & Media Latrobe University Bundoora, Victoria, 3083 Australia email: T.McDermott@latrobe.edu.au Telephone +61 3 9479 2167 Fax +61 3 9479 3651