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Date1999-09-17 18:28
Frompatrick pagano
SubjectInstant C sound
I  am wondering if any one has actually used the program folks were
chatting about yesterday? I take it is a front end for windows?

Pat



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Hi
I had a quick go on it yesterday, seems ok. Its a toss up between it and
Visorc 2.0 I'll be try them over the weekend more comments after.
Derek P

patrick pagano wrote:

> I  am wondering if any one has actually used the program folks were
> chatting about yesterday? I take it is a front end for windows?
>
> Pat





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Could someone answer me this?

Will this alter the quality of a 44100 sound (asig0..):

asig1    butterlp asig0, 22050 ?

Thanks!

Have a nice day, Orc-ers!

Radu Grigorovici



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>> I have not come across this particular restriction with Csound before. A
>> Sample CD is not something I have any interest in making, but I can
>> imagine there are plenty that might want to do such a thing.
>
>I think that this is referring to compiling specific orchestras - i.e. you
are
>not allowed to download Dr. Richard Boulanger's .orc and .sco files,
compile
>these, and put the resulting sound on a sample CD. I doubt that they are
trying
>to keep you from putting your own work on a sample CD.


I would guess that rights for use of an orchestra and score reside with the
author so you might want to ask them for their permission if you want to use
their sounds on a sample CD.

Bye,
Hans Mikelson



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>Richard Dobson wrote:
>
>> There is also the admonition:
>>
>> "
>> It is a free software. However,


= 0+0 data free.
2 th!nk tzo = 0+1 shortkut 2 m9nd akt!v!t!
csound != free.


>I think that this is referring to compiling specific orchestras - i.e. you are
>not allowed to download Dr. Richard Boulanger's .orc and .sco files, compile
>these, and put the resulting sound on a sample CD. I doubt that they are trying
>to keep you from putting your own work on a sample CD.

= 0+0 l!f 4rm kapabl ov keep!ng 1 odr l!f 4rm 4rom do!ng an! dz!ng.
= l!f 4rmz - plurl onl! - abl 2 reztra!n dze tr!umf ov dze u!l


>Of course, I could be wrong...
>
>Sean Costello

= ma! eluz!dat - hou ud Sean Costello kno Sean Costello = wrong +? a +?




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Ok I worked out you have have to hav len of 2^n, unless for losic

> I tried this (below)straight out of the csound manual, just change
> "Sound.wav" and the length to "Sound.aif" and 52480, and it doesn't work, I
> get this error
>
> FTERROR, ftable 10: illegal table length
> f 10    0.0052480.00    1.00  "Sound.aif" ...
>
> I've tried different text editors, I'm using PPC version 'perf' 3.56 on an
> iMac. I was originally tring it with my own .orc and .sco was getting the
> same errors.
>
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; graintest.orc
> instr 1
> insnd = 10
> ibasfrq = 32000 / ftlen(insnd) ; Use original sample rate of insnd file
> kamp expseg 8000, p3/2, 8000, p3/2, 16000
> kpitch line ibasfrq, p3, ibasfrq * .8
> kdens line 600, p3, 200
> kaoff line 0, p3, 5000
> kpoff line 0, p3, ibasfrq * .5
> kgdur line .4, p3, .1
> imaxgdur = .5
> ar grain kamp, kpitch, kdens, kaoff, kpoff, kgdur, insnd, 5, imaxgdur, 0.0
> out ar
> endin
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; graintest.sco
> f5 0 512 20 2 ; Hanning window
> f10 0 52480 1 "Sound.aif" 0 0 0
> i1 0 10
> e



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>This sounds good...!

eczaktement. < legal!szd prozt!tuz!on


>-----Original Message-----
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>
>
>This is from the news file at http://www.op.net/~pbd/quasimodo/. I've
>been away a lot, and busy, and miserable, and divorced. But I'm back,
>my daughter Hannah is back in school, and I'm programming like a
>crazed weasel again :)




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This sounds good...!

-----Original Message-----
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This is from the news file at http://www.op.net/~pbd/quasimodo/. I've
been away a lot, and busy, and miserable, and divorced. But I'm back,
my daughter Hannah is back in school, and I'm programming like a
crazed weasel again :)

--p

  September 16th
          Its been a long summer.

          Well, I'm back from a summer of travelling and getting a
          divorce. Its time to get started again, and as a start, several
          major new items:

          + the UI is now not even linked at compile time - Quasimodo
            dynamically loads the libraries you specify in the config
            file, and then looks for a function called "ui_init" within
            them to create the user interface. Switch UI's at run time
            from GTK+ to GNU readline (command line) and even (at some
            point) to Stephane's Python interface for Quasimodo!
          + new internal API to allow patching to be carried out from
            such things as a command line UI
          + XML in use for preset files; support for XML module
            definitions is almost complete, thanks to Stephane. We now
            use gnome-xml, instead of expat.
          + Quasimodo is itself now a library! Quasimodo the program is
            very simple, something roughly like this:

                main (int argc, char *argv[])
                {
                     Quasimodo q (&argc, argv);

                     if (q.ok())
                         q.start ();

                }
            This new structure will now allow Quasimodo to be used as an
            audio engine from other programs, using the new API when
            necessary to load/unload modules, set up patches and control
            parameters.
          + Basic support for machines with > 2 processors is now in
            place. You will soon be able to run each "cabinet" on its own
            processor. If anyone has the cash for a 4-CPU Xeon machine,
            it would be a nice contender for the Pulsar, except that the
            Pulsar costs less than the motherboard+1 Xeon!

          Work to be done in the immediate future include some
          considerable effort on the appearance of the UI, making the
          modules more interesting and useful, and getting input to work
          smoothly and efficiently. None of these are trivial. But expect
          lots of work on this stuff, soon!.
                                            


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"Stephen J. Parise" wrote:
> 
> http://www.nettaxi.com/citizens/samplecd/outbox/index.htm

If you go to through
    http://thor.prohosting.com/~nsixnine/

...you won't have the top banners every 20 seconds...

>   Csound Visual Studio 2000pro

no comment.

	re


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Hello list! =)


A long time ago I believe I asked some questions about how to convert floats
to 16-bit or less. As I don't remember the answers, I ask again:

What's the best algorithm to use for converting a normalized sample to
integers and get the best soundquality?

There are atleast 2 questions that comes up:

1. What method should I use when rounding? ceil(), floor(), or normal
rounding?
2. Should I add 1-bit noise to the sample? If so, when should I do this?
Should the noise be between -1 and 1, or 0 and 1, or -1 and 0?


Before, I have done something like this: (for 8-bits)

    integer = floor( 127.99999*sample )

This will give me a full range output, but may give a -0.5 DC..


Thanx!

/ Anders Andersson, www.algonet.se/~pipe/



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Well, some sort of comment is pertinent - we have a graphic front-end
for a public-domain Csound engine the copyright and licensing of which
traces back ultimately to Barry Vercoe and MIT, via Gabriel Maldonado in
this case. The 'pro' version of the graphic front end in question is
presented as a commercial product ("It will not be free(sorry)"). 

There is also the admonition:

"
It is a free software. However, You can not make a SAMPLE CD, or SAMPLE
CD-ROM with this compiled sound. It is prohibited. You have to discuss
to sound designer who makes a original Csound orchestra file such as Dr.
Richard Boulanger and me.

"

I have not come across this particular restriction with Csound before. A
Sample CD is not something I have any interest in making, but I can
imagine there are plenty that might want to do such a thing.

So is what is offered here OK in terms of the Csound license?

Richard Dobson




rasmus ekman wrote:
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> "Stephen J. Parise" wrote:
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> > http://www.nettaxi.com/citizens/samplecd/outbox/index.htm
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> If you go to through
>     http://thor.prohosting.com/~nsixnine/
> 
> ...you won't have the top banners every 20 seconds...
> 
> >   Csound Visual Studio 2000pro
> 
> no comment.
> 
>         re

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>> FTERROR, ftable 10: illegal table length
>> f 10   0.0052480.00    1.00  "Sound.aif" ...


Hi,

One other thing that confused me when I first started working with the
granular opcodes is that the frequency you ask for is the number of times
the entire table is cycled per second.  If you have a sample of a sound at a
certain frequency you need to do some calculations if you want your
granulized sample tuned to a certain pitch.

For example suppose you have a sample of a 400 Hz pitched sound that lasts 2
seconds and has a sample rate of 44100 Hz and is monophonic.  This means it
has 88200 samples.  The smallest power of 2 that will hold this many samples
is 2^17=131072.  The number of seconds in this many samples at a 44100
sample rate is about 2.97215 seconds.  In order for the sound to play at 400
Hz you would need to use a frequency of 1/2.97215=.336456

When I first started working with the granular opcodes I think I tried
things like 400 Hz, 1 Hz and .5 Hz before I figured it out.

A formula for this would be something like:

TableSize = 2^(int(logbase2(SampleDuration*SampleSR))+1)

OutputFrequency = (DesiredFrequency/SampleFrequency)/(TableSize/OrcSR)

Which I think will work except for when the size of the sample is exactly
equal to a power of two.  Then don't add one.

Now wasn't that confusing?  Or am I just confused?

Bye,
Hans Mikelson