| Joe's new piece was awesome, but I found the Ambisonics a little
disappointing. There _was_ an impression of a steady soundfield, but I was
sitting rear-right, and it sound like the whole piece was emanating in a
sphere from about 3 metres above my right shoulder!
I like the implications of Richard Dobson's suggestion (about a flexible 8
channel format)
- For me it would be great to have something like an Ambisonic or 5.1
'backdrop' and then diffuse a stereo track inside/around the 'background'
soundfield.
BTW Matt - any chance you (or someone) could fix the ppc MIDI opcodes fairly
soon-ish .... pleeease...
sorry to be a pest.
Best wishes,
Jamie
>should be able to do 8 channels.
>
>5.1 is owned by dolby
>plus ambisonics (Bformat) is better (WXYZ)
>perhaps joe anderson might post his ambisonics decoder orchestra/cecelia
>module...
>
>anyone hear his new piece?
>
>matt
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Well you may not want it, but v3.494 has been copied to teh servers. It
is mainly a bug fix, but there is at least one new opcode. Release nites
are on teh server as well.
Better version for teh new year, I hope
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Dear Csounders,
I have never found the "perfect" synth so I've just about decided to
build my own. Yes I know all the cons, but I wan't to take them on and
build my dream synth. Believe it or not I really am not interested in
making an analog synth. I wanted to base my creation loosely on the
Ensoniq TS-10/12 series synthesizers. Especially the listable Hyperwave
rom loop engine and I wanted to take this even further.
My question is, how feesable is it to base a hardware synth on
csound? My knoledge of eproms and such is limited but I study the full
spectrum daily. I have a book on the way called "Digital projects for
musicians", from PAVO tech. inc.
Any other must have synth building books, remember I want to end up
with a digital synth with a rom library as well as a synth engine maybe
based on Csound.
Thanks,
SONICMAN-out
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The files can be found on (at least)
ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk:pub/dream/documentation/sounds/modelling/
>From here I see
omphalos 305% ls -l ./pub/dream/documentation/sounds/modelling/
total 38
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 4166 Feb 17 1998 britestk.aiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 4140 Dec 22 1997 britestk.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 590 Feb 17 1998 fwavblnk.aiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 556 Dec 22 1997 fwavblnk.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 586 Feb 17 1998 impuls20.aiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 556 Dec 22 1997 impuls20.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 582 Feb 17 1998 impuls40.aiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 556 Dec 22 1997 impuls40.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 8970 Feb 17 1998 mandpluk.aiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 8944 Dec 22 1997 mandpluk.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 582 Feb 17 1998 marmstk1.aiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 556 Dec 22 1997 marmstk1.wav
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 574 Feb 17 1998 twopeaks.aiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 jpff ftp 556 Dec 22 1997 twopeaks.wav
omphalos 306%
Shound be on the Montreal mirror site as well in the same place. Hope
that it what you wanted.
==John
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pete moss wrote:
>
> maybe i dont understand, but why use the 'ifilename' variable? why not use the output
> filename specified in the command line? why give this fout opcode the power to change the
> output filename?
Because in this way you can output more than a multichannel file a time, with a single
unmodified csound orc/sco pair. For example, the Korg 1212 card is able to sync for stereo
files at the same time, allowing octophony without using specialized wave players.
--
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> I use a Mac computer 9600/200Mhz;
> I tried to control a very simple archestra via a midi keyboard;
> everything works but with an unacceptable delay.
yep...
always felt uneasy calling it "real-time"
fact is its gonna take alot of hacking to get real-time sound
working properly [low latency] on the mac.
have you taken a look into supercolider?
or BeOs Csound [most likely cheaper than sc]
(although i havent tried out
RT MIDI yet...)
and of
course
theres
grain
wave
matt
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> Joe's new piece was awesome, but I found the Ambisonics a little
> disappointing. There _was_ an impression of a steady soundfield, but I was
> sitting rear-right, and it sound like the whole piece was emanating in a
> sphere from about 3 metres above my right shoulder!
that doesnt sound good, but at least steady soundfield -- but
would you prefer typical BEAST stereo-pair diffusion?
>
> BTW Matt - any chance you (or someone) could fix the ppc MIDI opcodes fairly
> soon-ish .... pleeease...
care to give an itemized list of broken opcodes?
i dont have any MIDI gear to test for the next few weeks..
the code is on mills ftp if anyone would like to take a look.
matt
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Hello,
Thanks for all of the great support over the last couple of years. You
guys are great. Have a safe and happy Christmas!!
--Joe Reinsel
Composer, Sonic Artist
Washington D.C. U.S.A.
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On Thu, 24 Dec 1998, Paul Winkler wrote:
> > Josep M Comajuncosas wrote:
> >=20
> > > Well, I=B4d really like to see Csound recognizing midi pitch bend mes=
sages at
> > > last...
> > > long time wayting for it!
>=20
> How about patch change messages? After all, there's only so many
> channels, but many more patches...
>=20
> --PW
>=20
I found a good workaround that fits MY setup anyway (Thanks to Gabriel
Maldonado for his suggestions!)
Many synths (including mine, the Roland GR30 guitar synth) can control
sound selection on external devices not only by program change messages
but also bank selects. It's useful for if you want to play on your main
synth and use the sounds on another device.
The program messages suffice when your external device has only 128
patches, but if it has more, you need to change to another bank. For
example, if your external device has 256 sounds, it may have 128 on one
bank and 128 on a second bank. The bank select is sent as controller 0 or
controller 32. So I can set up my GR30 to send both a patch change and a
controller 0 change when I hit a pedal. (i.e. patch 53 bank 1, patch 37
bank 0, or whatever).
In Csound, as you may have discovered, program changes cause you to crash.
So get yourself Hubi's MIDI Cable (or an equivalent application) and
filter out program changes. Then set your synth to send a different bank
select along with every "patch change." Now Csound never gets the
program changes but gets the bank changes as controller 0 or 32. Write
your script with the "patch" controlled by midictrl 0.
I've found this is a good workaround for me, since Hubi's MIDI Cable uses
almost no RAM so it doesn't slow things down. I do agree, however, that a
future version of Csound that understands actual program change messages
would be pretty convenient. Anyway, good luck, and happy holidays to all!
=09=09=09=09Kevin Gallager, kgallagh@astro.temple.edu
=09=09=09=09Web - http://astro.temple.edu/~kgallagh
PS - I also would be interested in realtime MIDI for Macintosh and other
platforms, i.e. a Mac equivalent to Gabriel Maldonado's DirectCsound 2.1.
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It's entirely feasible - but there is always the problem of latency on a
standard PC. The use of DirectX minimises it, but still does not remove
it entirely. Hence the XTCsound project from Analog Devices, which runs
on a SHARC dsp chip, and uses the host RAM for samples, and can output
over six channels. It works pretty well, but, as a soundcard, not really
well enough yet. I am told that DirectCsound running on a 450MHz
Pentium II can beat it soundly. ADI worked very hard to get full MIDI
support for XTCsound, and not all of that has been able to be duplicated
in public Csound because it is proprietary (also, the card has mor
direct hardware contact with the MIDI port, so the extra overhead of a
PC MIDI driver is avoided).
Frank Hund of Creamware was keen on the idea of a port of public Csound
to the PULSAR/SCOPE system (4 and 15 SHARCs respectively, extensible),
and if the ADI project doesn't pick up pace soon (and give more weight
to the soundcard implementation per se) that remains an attratcive
alternative route, in the longer term.
Richard Dobson
SONICMAN wrote:
>
> Dear Csounders,
>
> I have never found the "perfect" synth so I've just about decided to
> build my own. Yes I know all the cons, but I wan't to take them on and
> build my dream synth. Believe it or not I really am not interested in
> making an analog synth. I wanted to base my creation loosely on the
> Ensoniq TS-10/12 series synthesizers. Especially the listable Hyperwave
> rom loop engine and I wanted to take this even further.
> My question is, how feesable is it to base a hardware synth on
> csound? My knoledge of eproms and such is limited but I study the full
> spectrum daily. I have a book on the way called "Digital projects for
> musicians", from PAVO tech. inc.
> Any other must have synth building books, remember I want to end up
> with a digital synth with a rom library as well as a synth engine maybe
> based on Csound.
>
> Thanks,
> SONICMAN-out
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