| Jim Stevenson wrote:
>
> Will any of those hw dsp systems work under Dos, and be
> driven by keybord commands?
>
> Thanks.
No, they work under MS Windows interface and the user
can graphically define custom parameters to be driven by standard MIDI
realtime events.
Gabriel
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I have placed version 3.45 on my servers. This is really a tidy-up
release after the shake-up of 3.44. There is also a file
Version3_45.Notes which describes all the changes.
Summary
=======
a) An additional optional argument has been added to all the
Butterworth filters, vdelay, and reverb2, which if non-zero
skips the initialisation stage.
b) Return code corrected after no graphics
c) Allow arguments like -m6W
d) Added new opcodes uniform to complete the random generators
e) Added fof2 opcode
f) New command option -z to give a list of opcodes. -z0 or -z
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h) Adjusted sndwarp to give (optional) stereo, and new opcode
sndwarpst
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I seem to have Real-time MIDI input working with Csound, and would like to
post what I've found, since others have been having problems as well. I'd
like people to read through this and tell me if I'm mistaken on anything:
(1) MIDI input does not work with the USS lite driver (at least the one that
ships with RedHat 4.0). This is because that driver ignores the O_NDELAY
call and blocks on every read(). The author tells me that there is an Ioctl
parameter to set the maximum time the driver will wait before returning -
however, the minimum time is 10ms. Since I don't think that this is a
tolerable situation in our case, I decided to try the driver that is
packaged with TclMIDI (Thanks Toby!).
(2) I had better luck with the TclMIDI driver. For one, it seems to be
better documented. Remember to use the raw Midi input device ( -M
/dev/rdmidi0 ), and not the time-stamped input device. As Matti had told me
(Thanks Matti!), I needed to rebuild the USS sound-driver module to *not*
include MIDI driver support. This is because I am still using the USS Gravis
Ultrasound driver (since the TclMIDI doc says that theirs is not up to
speed). And unfortunately, the USS stuff is all in one module, so opening
the sound card otherwise would try to open both MIDI drivers - an IRQ
conflict message in the log is the symptom.
(3) I was puzzled that when using small buffer sizes (-b and -B options),
that I still had very long delays. It turns out that this is because the
soundcard DSP_SETBLCKSIZE (not sure if this is the right spelling) ioctl
parameter only sets both the fragment size, which is really the DMA buffer
size that is used, and the number of fragments to use. CSound ORs this size
with 0x7fff0000, which tells the driver to use as many of these fragments as
there is room in the buffer size you set up when you compiled the driver.
Thus, for real-time performance you want to change the 0x7fff to 0x0002, to
use only two fragments (one is being DMA'd to the card while the other is
being written by CSound). I apologize for not having the code in front of me
- anyone who can't find the place, please let me know.
(4) I found "strace" to be very helpfull. With the -r and -T flags, you can
show all the timing information the I/O calls, to see how will CSound is
keeping up.
(5) Linux now supports the POSIX scheduling policies of SCHED_FIFO and
SCHED_RR. ( See doc for sched_setscheduler() ). Any process that is set
SCHED_FIFO will run as a real-time process, which means it will always run
as long as it is runnable, and will not be interrupted by non-realtime tasks
(SCHED_OTHER , the default). I haven't tried this yet, but will do it soon.
One danger is that a SCHED_FIFO task can effectively lock up the system, and
this has to be dealt with somehow.
Larry Troxler
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[John Ffitch wrote]
> I lost touch with Richard Hughes, but James Grimmett works for
BIDS,
> and can be e-mailed on ccsjwg@bath.ac.uk.
> Whether he has time or not I do not know.
Thanks for the info. I thought you probably knew of their whereabouts
but I wanted to see if there were any more of us out there ! I'll be
contacting Mr Grimmett shortly....
> I would like to see this system brought uptodate,
Yeah, me too. Although I don't think it's as old as you think it is.
The last port is dated Jan 1996 (not Nov 1994 as reported on your ftp
site), and the version reported is 3.34 - I believe the latest version available
is 3.44(beta) which I downloaded recently from MIT's ftp site.
The executable itself is fine - I was happily compiling four
sessions simultaneously last night and still had enough processing power left
over to type this message.
The WIMP interface is not very good. It won't run under the
StrongARM, because I suspect, the change in architecture - but it runs fine on
the older ARM7 chip. I would like to rewrite the front-end with the toolbox
modules and perhaps design a GUI to handle the command line.
> but my A400 is very old and short of disk.
Well, the Archimedes hey day is well past :-( my old A3000
celebrates a decade this month ! Does the A400 have an ARM2 or ARM3,
and if so, which version (25Mhz/33Mhz) and did you get an FPA ? Acorn
are still using software emulation for floating point which is just no good for
*serious* number crunching applications. How feasible would it be to re-code
using integer math only ?
> As long as it uses Norcroft C I am happy...
What do you mean by Norcroft C ? I have the latest C compiler sold
by Acorn which reports that it is Norcroft vsn 5.05. but does it make a
difference ? I thought all C was the same (ANSI C that is). :-)
Jason Perry
Music and Electronic Engineering
Leeds University Music Department
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At 03:53 PM 2/3/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I forgot to indicate that I was refering to a REALTIME
>> fft/ifft opcode pair. I.e, it has to take input from a sound
>> input buffer, NOT a soundfile (I want to base synthesis decisions
>> in the orchestra based on the fft of an incoming signal).
>>
>> I'm still totally perplexed it does not exist.
>>
>
>My guess would be that the lack of array operators in the csound
>syntax makes them marginally useful, except as integrated into
>the relevant ugens (convolve, pvoc, etc.).
>
You might want to get the source for convolve or pvoc and modify the code
so it interprets the output of the FFT the way you want, then pass the
control information onto other units in the orc. This seems to be what
people so when faced with orcs that take a lot of compute time because of
lots of information passing between units- the new grain opcodes come to
mind as an example of this.
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For my own use I have arranged that the all messages to csound mailing
list are collected and mailed to me as a digest once a day. I am
happy to provide this service to anyone else who asks. At present all
adding/leaving will be done by hand until I have the time and energy
to write the trivial program. The other draw back is that at the time
of typing teh format is not correct for undigestifying -- I hope to
fix that soon.
I do not intend to keep an archive of more than about 2 weeks.
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>>>>> "P" == PERRY JG writes:
>> I would like to see this system brought uptodate,
P> Yeah, me too. Although I don't think it's as old as you think it is.
P> The last port is dated Jan 1996 (not Nov 1994 as reported on your ftp
P> site), and the version reported is 3.34 - I believe the latest version available
P> is 3.44(beta) which I downloaded recently from MIT's ftp site.
P> The executable itself is fine - I was happily compiling four
P> sessions simultaneously last night and still had enough processing power left
James G did this second port as his u/g project last year. I knew it
was not too old, but I never know the date or year.
P> over to type this message.
P> The WIMP interface is not very good. It won't run under the
P> StrongARM, because I suspect, the change in architecture - but it runs fine on
P> the older ARM7 chip. I would like to rewrite the front-end with the toolbox
P> modules and perhaps design a GUI to handle the command line.
>> but my A400 is very old and short of disk.
P> Well, the Archimedes hey day is well past :-( my old A3000
P> celebrates a decade this month ! Does the A400 have an ARM2 or ARM3,
P> and if so, which version (25Mhz/33Mhz) and did you get an FPA ? Acorn
P> are still using software emulation for floating point which is just no good for
P> *serious* number crunching applications. How feasible would it be to re-code
P> using integer math only ?
When I said A400 I meant the original A400 -- this machine is one of
the first Acorn ARM machines. No way can it take an ARM2 or ARM3.
Yes it uses software emulation. There have been suggestions of
recoding Csound in integer only, but that is a major project.
>> As long as it uses Norcroft C I am happy...
P> What do you mean by Norcroft C ? I have the latest C compiler sold
P> by Acorn which reports that it is Norcroft vsn 5.05. but does it make a
P> difference ? I thought all C was the same (ANSI C that is). :-)
Norcroft C is a trade name of an ANSI C compiler which was written by
a company called Codemist Ltd. Their business is compilers and
algebra. They own two trade name -- Norcroft and Fitch-Norman. OK I
come clean, I am a director of Codemist Ltd (well, we do not have
titles but I am managing director) so I liek to see it used. Every
compiler meant royalties. How else can I aford computers for music?
P> Jason Perry
P> Music and Electronic Engineering
P> Leeds University Music Department
=John ffitch
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>>>>> "P" == PERRY JG writes:
>> I would like to see this system brought uptodate,
P> Yeah, me too. Although I don't think it's as old as you think it is.
P> The last port is dated Jan 1996 (not Nov 1994 as reported on your ftp
P> site), and the version reported is 3.34 - I believe the latest version available
P> is 3.44(beta) which I downloaded recently from MIT's ftp site.
P> The executable itself is fine - I was happily compiling four
P> sessions simultaneously last night and still had enough processing power left
James G did this second port as his u/g project last year. I knew it
was not too old, but I never know the date or year.
P> over to type this message.
P> The WIMP interface is not very good. It won't run under the
P> StrongARM, because I suspect, the change in architecture - but it runs fine on
P> the older ARM7 chip. I would like to rewrite the front-end with the toolbox
P> modules and perhaps design a GUI to handle the command line.
>> but my A400 is very old and short of disk.
P> Well, the Archimedes hey day is well past :-( my old A3000
P> celebrates a decade this month ! Does the A400 have an ARM2 or ARM3,
P> and if so, which version (25Mhz/33Mhz) and did you get an FPA ? Acorn
P> are still using software emulation for floating point which is just no good for
P> *serious* number crunching applications. How feasible would it be to re-code
P> using integer math only ?
When I said A400 I meant the original A400 -- this machine is one of
the first Acorn ARM machines. No way can it take an ARM2 or ARM3.
Yes it uses software emulation. There have been suggestions of
recoding Csound in integer only, but that is a major project.
>> As long as it uses Norcroft C I am happy...
P> What do you mean by Norcroft C ? I have the latest C compiler sold
P> by Acorn which reports that it is Norcroft vsn 5.05. but does it make a
P> difference ? I thought all C was the same (ANSI C that is). :-)
Norcroft C is a trade name of an ANSI C compiler which was written by
a company called Codemist Ltd. Their business is compilers and
algebra. They own two trade name -- Norcroft and Fitch-Norman. OK I
come clean, I am a director of Codemist Ltd (well, we do not have
titles but I am managing director) so I liek to see it used. Every
compiler meant royalties. How else can I aford computers for music?
P> Jason Perry
P> Music and Electronic Engineering
P> Leeds University Music Department
=John ffitch
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Does anyone know of a Csound binary for a Sun Sparc station running Soloaris?
Note- You can run a SunOS binary and somethings will happen- however, for
real-time audio the SunOS version will not set the sampling rate on the
audio device to the correct value.
thanks
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George Robertson wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a Csound binary for a Sun Sparc station running Soloaris?
I have a Solaris machine I could use. However, free time is not my
speciality at the moment and I absolutely don't know if Csound's code is
real-time ready for Solaris.
I might give it a shot but expect some delay and a few reminders needed
;-)
Sincerely,
Marc.
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 18:19:26 -0500
From: Dave Phillips
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The latest version of Doug Scott's MiXViews for Linux is now freely
available from the MiXViews Home Page at:
http://www.ccmrc.ucsb.edu/~doug/htmls/MiXViews.html
MiXViews is a graphic soundfile recorder, player, converter, editor and
analysis/resynthesis engine. It's also one of the main reasons I set up
a Linux system...
== Dave Phillips
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