[Csnd] Rim Shot anyone ?

Date	1999-11-08 21:07
From	jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk
Subject	[Csnd] Rim Shot anyone ?
	------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 17:05:33 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Huber Subject: [Csnd] Rim Shot anyone ? To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Does anyone have a good sounding rim shot ? I tried to mix a lower (~300Hz) and a higher (~5kHz) frequency oscillator, both with a short exponentially decaying amplitude envelope (expseg) but it didn't sound too good. Any tips ? Thomas ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa29908; 9 Nov 99 14:35 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lCMa-0002OS-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:35:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 25285 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:30:44 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11936 invoked by uid 1457); 9 Nov 1999 14:29:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 11930 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:29:00 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24528 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:28:59 -0000 Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk (exim@138.38.100.104) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:28:59 -0000 Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lBEL-0007kC-00 for csound@lists.bath.AC.UK; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:22:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:28:54 +0000 Message-Id: <7826-Tue09Nov1999142854+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 20.4.90.1 (via feedmail 8 I) To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Reply-To: Michael Rhoades From: mrhoades@innerlightpub.com Sender: mrhoades@innerlightpub.com Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Subject: Re: [Csnd] SEAMUS Audio Clip Web Concert 1999 ------- Start of forwarded message ------- To: Csound Subject: Re: [Csnd] SEAMUS Audio Clip Web Concert 1999 Hi all, I too have a piece (a Csound composition) on the SEAMUS Audio Clip concert, and I agree, the sound quality does not reflect the sonic subtleties that are inherent to the composition. I am, however, thrilled to have the chance to heard. Thanks to all involved at SEAMUS. Michael Rhoades Make the Rhoadsmith Web Connection at http://www.innerlightpub.com/rhoadsmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Covell To: Csound (E-mail) Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Csnd] SEAMUS Audio Clip Web Concert 1999 > > And I'm another Csounder with a contribution on this year's SEAMUS > AudioClip > > concert as well. > > > > Frankly, my contribution has lots of inherent noise which doesn't > translate > > well to RealAudio I think (If you're in the Boston area next Sunday, you > can > > check the entire piece out live at a concert I'm putting on. Let me know > if > > you want more details, I posted an announcement to this list last week). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Grant > > === > > Subject: [Csnd] SEAMUS Audio Clip Web Concert 1999 > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > This is a note to tell you all that I have a piece on the 1999 SEAMUS > > Audio Clip Web Concert. It can be heard at > > > > http://leon.music.lsu.edu:591/audioclips/ > > > > The piece is called "Oval Twi-nings". Check it out! > > > > > > --Joe Reinsel > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00018; 9 Nov 99 14:41 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lBQj-0007lC-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:35:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 22447 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:21:32 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:21:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 7872 invoked by uid 1457); 9 Nov 1999 14:17:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 7864 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:17:49 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:17:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 22397 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:17:48 -0000 Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk (exim@138.38.100.104) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:17:48 -0000 Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lB3Y-0007jH-00 for csound@lists.bath.AC.UK; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:11:28 +0000 Resent-Message-Id: <7999-Mon08Nov1999214354+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> X-Resent-Mailer: emacs 20.4.90.1 (via feedmail 8 Q) Resent-From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Resent-Date: 08 Nov 1999 21:40:52 +0000 Resent-To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:44:30 -0800 (PST) From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Sender: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? If you quote me, please put your comments first. I have already listened to mine. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00127; 9 Nov 99 14:52 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lBbP-0007mE-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:46:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 28923 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:48:31 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:48:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 17811 invoked by uid 1457); 9 Nov 1999 14:46:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 17804 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:46:52 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:46:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 28300 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:46:52 -0000 Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk (exim@138.38.100.104) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:46:52 -0000 Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lBVe-0007lu-00 for csound@lists.bath.AC.UK; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:40:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:46:47 +0000 Message-Id: <925-Tue09Nov1999144647+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 20.4.90.1 (via feedmail 8 I) To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK From: g.maldonado@agora.stm.it Sender: g.maldonado@agora.stm.it Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Subject: Re: [Csnd] 4 speakers ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:06:25 +0100 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Accept-Language: en To: Richard Bowers , Csound Mailing List Subject: Re: 4 speakers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The 4 speaker output is already possible with the sblive (as well as the 5.1 speaker surround systems if you have the corresponding Creative speaker set)! Use the Init3dAudio and Out3d opcodes and place them anywhere in the 3-d space. Unfortunately the outq opcode is still not useable in realtime, since Creative doesn't released the plain use of the four outputs independently in its SDK at present time. Notice that you have to set-up the AudioHQ-speaker control panel in order to handle the four speakers to operate correctly. - -- Gabriel Maldonado http://web.tiscalinet.it/G-Maldonado Richard Bowers wrote: > > Gabriel, > > I think I failed to send this to the list but it's better going directly to > you anyway. > > Do you have any plans to implement support for the four speaker outputs on > the sblive! card from directcsound? Is it possible anyway? I'd be interested > to hear. > > Many thanks, > Richard. ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00133; 9 Nov 99 14:53 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lBbz-0007mG-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:47:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 18318 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:10:22 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:10:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5306 invoked by uid 1457); 9 Nov 1999 14:08:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5300 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:08:42 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:08:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20858 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 14:08:42 -0000 Received: from fornax.tiscalinet.it (HELO smtp.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.67) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 14:08:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 30992 invoked by uid 7770); 9 Nov 1999 13:56:41 -0000 Received: from rm1-144.tiscalinet.it (HELO agora.stm.it) (212.123.78.18) by fornax.tiscalinet.it with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 13:56:41 -0000 Message-ID: <38280733.59D9BB6C@agora.stm.it> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 12:36:19 +0100 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicola Bernardini CC: Csound Mailing List References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] [Beta Tester Team] template example Dear Nicola, a simple, trivial, non qualitative way to compare output beetween platforms, could be a sample by sample subtraction. The resultant signal should give the deviation error (in the case of identity, this should give a sequence of zeroes). One can be the comparation both in float samples and in integer samples. Any other idea? Gab Nicola Bernardini wrote: > > What about the quality of the output? What I mean by that is: > > 1) is there a reference output (perhaps done with some other precision > tool that is trustable at least more than csound, or more than one) > so that deviation from the output can be measured? > > 2) these measurements would probably differ from platform to platform... > > 3) there could be numerical bugs in the algorithms which could be > uncovered by the reference implementation of the algorithm in some > other language (say Matlab/Octave, or Mathematica, or whatever you like) > > Sinewaves oscillators can be easy to test, but when you get to some > nifty filters or reverbs, then it gets harder, does'nt it? > > Have you already discussed this aspect? > > ciao > > Nicola > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Nicola Bernardini > E-mail: nicb@axnet.it > > Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe > the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described > with pictures. -- Gabriel Maldonado http://web.tiscalinet.it/G-Maldonado -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01390; 9 Nov 99 18:37 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lF7B-00081G-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:31:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 19054 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 18:34:23 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 18:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 10705 invoked by uid 1457); 9 Nov 1999 18:32:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 10699 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 18:32:46 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 18:32:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 8644 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 18:32:45 -0000 Received: from 209-128-78-198.bayarea.net (HELO screech.weirdnoise.com) (209.128.78.198) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 18:32:45 -0000 Received: from screech.weirdnoise.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by screech.weirdnoise.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01273; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:34:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199911091834.KAA01273@screech.weirdnoise.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 To: Gabriel Maldonado cc: Nicola Bernardini , Csound Mailing List In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Nov 1999 12:36:19 +0100." <38280733.59D9BB6C@agora.stm.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 10:34:18 -0800 From: Ed Hall Subject: Re: [Csnd] [Beta Tester Team] template example Gabriel Maldonado wrote: a simple, trivial, non qualitative way to compare output beetween platforms, could be a sample by sample subtraction. The resultant signal should give the deviation error (in the case of identity, this should give a sequence of zeroes). One can be the comparation both in float samples and in integer samples. Unfortunately, this sometimes doesn't work so well due to subtle differences in arithmetic between platforms. For example, Intel processors store intermediate floating-point results in an 80-bit format even when the results are 64-bit or 32-bit. Depending upon how a compiler decides to store intermediate results, the outcome can vary in the last bit. And in any case, the result can vary slightly from that produced on a PPC or Alpha. Sometimes the differences are entirely below rounding error, and 16-bit or even float samples will be identical. In other cases (e.g. physical modeling or high-index FM) error accumulation can make results diverge over time and even fall out of phase with each other on very long notes. Sample comparison is worth a try, however. I'd suggest using the standard deviation or variance of the sample differencess as a metric. Just be prepared for those cases when it doesn't work even though nothing is broken... -Ed -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01628; 9 Nov 99 20:38 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lH0L-00084D-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:32:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 29126 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 20:22:50 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 20:22:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20803 invoked by uid 1457); 9 Nov 1999 20:21:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 20797 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 20:21:12 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 20:21:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18975 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 20:21:11 -0000 Received: from smtp1.fas.harvard.edu (root@140.247.30.81) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 20:21:11 -0000 Received: from is05.fas.harvard.edu (IDENT:wild@is05.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.105]) by smtp1.fas.harvard.edu with ESMTP id PAA19382; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by is05.fas.harvard.edu with ESMTP id PAA32613; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:21:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:21:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Wild To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK In-Reply-To: <3405-Sun31Oct1999145427+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Csnd] : het_impo/expo I am having a problem with the hetrodyne analysis import/export utilities. I'm on an NT machine, and I have an analysis file that adsyn reads without a problem. But if I het_expo the file then immediately het_impo it again, (without opening the exported file before importing it again), adsyn can't read it and I get the following error: INIT error in instr1: illegal code -32768 encountered I also noticed that the new file (i.e. the import of the export) is 5k bigger than the original, whereas I'd expect it to be exactly the same. (If I open up the two files in a text-editor they appear identical.) Has anyone been using het_impo/expo on a Windows set-up and had more success than me? The SGI versions worked fine when I tried them a few years ago. thanks to anyone who can help. best wishes, Jon Wild -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02001; 9 Nov 99 23:40 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lKs9-0002fo-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:40:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 13939 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 23:36:31 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 23:36:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 5711 invoked by uid 1457); 9 Nov 1999 23:34:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5705 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 23:34:50 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 23:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4900 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 23:34:49 -0000 Received: from mail8.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.58) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 23:34:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 15955 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 1999 22:47:26 -0000 Received: from pppa26-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO default) (4.16.206.85) by mail8.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 22:47:26 -0000 Message-ID: <004001bf2afb$bbe26ec0$55ce1004@default> From: Sherlock_abc To: Csound Mailing List Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:45:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF2AD1.CFD5F3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Csnd] Something to ponder This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF2AD1.CFD5F3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If Csound Is Great at making sounds, why do music? Use Timidity++ and make a patch with Csound. =20 csound -W -o sample.wav -d sample.orc sample.sco In your orc, set it up normally. In your sco file, set however many i# you want. Compile. Use convert to convert it to pat. Use gravis.cfg and change you the instrument to your own. Now, go to Timidity. use a bat or makefile to compile test.mid Mine is set up like this run: t %1.mid and that is all set up your bat file to make it look similar to the one in the example. This is what I do. Robert ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF2AD1.CFD5F3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If Csound Is Great at making sounds, = why do=20 music? Use Timidity++ and make a patch with = Csound. csound -W -o sample.wav -d sample.orc = sample.sco In your orc, set it up normally. In your sco file, set however many i# you = want. Compile. Use convert to convert it to pat. Use gravis.cfg and change you the instrument to your = own. Now, go to Timidity. use a bat or makefile to compile = test.mid Mine is set up like this run: t %1.mid and that is all set up your bat file to make it look similar to the = one in the=20 example. This is what I do. Robert ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BF2AD1.CFD5F3E0-- __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02440; 10 Nov 99 4:37 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lPVK-0002nk-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:37:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 28827 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 04:29:23 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 04:29:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18899 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 04:27:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 18893 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 04:27:24 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 04:27:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 17882 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 04:27:24 -0000 Received: from ghanima.speedsite.com (HELO ghanima.xsite.net) (206.126.224.5) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 04:27:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 2562 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 22:27:52 -0600 Received: from flex061.speedsite.com (HELO endxokep) (206.126.238.61) by ghanima.speedsite.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 22:27:52 -0600 From: bob To: Csnd Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:24:43 -0600 Message-ID: <01bf2b33$830f2ec0$3dee7ece@endxokep> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Spam-Rating: ghanima.speedsite.com 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced with a "!" It doesnt help me though... anyone else? -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02454; 10 Nov 99 4:42 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lOY1-0008EG-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 03:35:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 510 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 04:36:01 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 04:36:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19866 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 04:34:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 19860 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 04:34:12 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 04:34:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18062 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 04:34:11 -0000 Received: from ghanima.speedsite.com (HELO ghanima.xsite.net) (206.126.224.5) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 04:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3187 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 22:34:43 -0600 Received: from flex061.speedsite.com (HELO endxokep) (206.126.238.61) by ghanima.speedsite.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 22:34:43 -0600 From: bob To: Csnd Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:31:32 -0600 Message-ID: <01bf2b34$770e8fc0$3dee7ece@endxokep> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Spam-Rating: ghanima.speedsite.com 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [Csnd] 4 Speakers and Linux, SBlive Attn Linux/Unix users: Creative Labs is releasing its drivers as open source. read more about it here; http://www.ga-source.com/all/news/bits/09+29+1999/15:09:37.shtml -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02546; 10 Nov 99 5:39 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lQTH-0002tZ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:39:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 5586 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 05:34:20 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 05:34:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 25646 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 05:32:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 25638 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 05:32:18 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 05:32:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19906 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 05:32:02 -0000 Received: from ax-nicb.axnet.it (root@194.184.60.149) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 05:32:02 -0000 Received: (from nicb@localhost) by ax-nicb.axnet.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA17800; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:24:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:24:33 +0100 (CET) From: Nicola Bernardini To: Gabriel Maldonado , Ed Hall cc: Csound Mailing List In-Reply-To: <199911091834.KAA01273@screech.weirdnoise.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Csnd] several messages Right. What I was hinting at is: how do you produce the so-called 'correct' samples? with mathlab/octave, or what? Do these exist somewhere as references? ciao Nicola Yesterday, Gabriel Maldonado mi scrisse cio` che segue: > Dear Nicola, > a simple, trivial, non qualitative way to compare output beetween > platforms, could be a sample by sample subtraction. The resultant signal > should give the deviation error (in the case of identity, this should > give a sequence of zeroes). One can be the comparation both in float > samples and in integer samples. > Any other idea? [snip] Yesterday, Ed Hall mi scrisse cio` che segue: [snip] > Unfortunately, this sometimes doesn't work so well due to subtle > differences in arithmetic between platforms. For example, Intel > processors store intermediate floating-point results in an 80-bit > format even when the results are 64-bit or 32-bit. Depending upon [etc. - snip] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nicola Bernardini E-mail: nicb@axnet.it Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described with pictures. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02748; 10 Nov 99 8:33 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lSA1-0008NV-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:27:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 23065 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 08:28:45 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 08:28:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 3657 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 08:27:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 3651 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 08:27:02 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 08:27:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 26898 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 08:27:01 -0000 Received: from fornax.tiscalinet.it (HELO smtp.tiscalinet.it) (195.130.224.67) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 08:27:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 15365 invoked by uid 7770); 10 Nov 1999 08:15:07 -0000 Received: from rm1-548.tiscalinet.it (HELO agora.stm.it) (212.123.79.168) by fornax.tiscalinet.it with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 08:15:07 -0000 Message-ID: <38292E68.85EC8A93@agora.stm.it> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:35:52 +0100 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicola Bernardini CC: Csound Mailing List References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] several messages I don't know mathlab/octave, do they allow arbitrary floating point precision? However I guest that reimplementing Csound opcodes to mathlab is not a trivial job. Gab Nicola Bernardini wrote: > > Right. What I was hinting at is: how do you produce the so-called > 'correct' samples? with mathlab/octave, or what? Do these exist > somewhere as references? > > ciao > > Nicola -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02950; 10 Nov 99 10:48 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lVJ8-00031D-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:48:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 13033 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 10:44:42 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 10:44:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 7277 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 10:43:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 7271 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 10:43:03 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 10:43:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 17165 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 10:43:01 -0000 Received: from fm2.freemail.hu (HELO freemail.c3.hu) (194.38.105.12) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 10:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22771 invoked by uid 339175); 10 Nov 1999 10:42:57 -0000 Date: 10 Nov 1999 10:42:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19991110104257.22752.qmail@freemail.c3.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Varga_Istv=E1n?= Subject: Re: [Csnd] Rim Shot anyone ? Thomas Huber wrote: > Does anyone have a good sounding rim shot ? I tried to mix > a lower (~300Hz) and a higher (~5kHz) frequency > oscillator, This is a simple fm-based instrument, sounds similar to the rim shot sound of the tr-808. -------- rimshot.orc -------- sr = 44100 kr = 44100 ksmps = 1 nchnls = 1 /* simple FM-based rimshot instrument / / coded by Istvan Varga, Nov 9 1999 / seed 0 instr 1 p3 = p3 + 0.1 / base frequency / icps = 440.0exp(log(2.0)(57.0-69.0)/12.0) kcps port icps, 0.0025, icps2.0 iamp = 0.0039 + p4p4/16192.0 / velocity / k1a phasor kcps, 0.0 / square wave / k1b phasor kcps, 0.5 kfmenv expon 1.0, 0.02, 0.5 / FM envelope / k1 = (k1a-k1b)6.0kfmenv kcps = kcps(1.0+k1) a0 oscil3 1.0, kcps, 1 /* sine oscillator / a1 unirand 2.0 / add some noise / a1 tone a1-1.0, 2000 a0 = a0 + a10.1 aenv expon 1.0, 0.005, 0.5 /* amp. envelope / / distortion / a0 limit 4.0iampa0aenv, -1.0, 1.0 a0 table3 a04096.0, 1, 0, 0, 1 / lowpass filter freq. envelope / kffrq expseg 20000, 0.07, 100, 1, 100 a0x tone a0, 4000 a0y = a0 - a0x a0x delay a0y, 0.0002 a0 = a0 - a0x4.0 a0 butterlp a0, kffrq /* de-click envelope / a_ linseg 1, p3-0.1, 1, 0.025, 0, 1, 0 a0 = a0a_ out a012500 endin -------- rimshot.sco -------- t 0 120 / p4 = velocity / i 1 0.000 0.5000 120 i 1 0.500 0.5000 120 i 1 1.000 0.5000 120 i 1 1.500 0.5000 120 i 1 4.000 0.2500 40 i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 + . < i 1 8.000 0.5000 127 f 1 0 16384 10 1 / sine wave / e -------- rimshot.orc.gz -------- begin-base64 644 rimshot.orc.gz H4sICOimKDgCA3JpbXNob3Qub3JjAGVTTXPaMBA9279ij6BgI4Eh40Ovmekh PfaaEbYAjWVJWDKBf99diaZNMsOYlfbpfazlMBU/AJpGcF4O/9dh9IGWorTd 2ZpHXa4ZBD16o+DltTrIoHqY9BjOLoK2IU7zqGwEtiZg53psH+7wM8SrtPBb Tie5gl/uCi2Itm2BgGURFMI4FomBVPyW5PwWnoDXWZW04Dipy6xsd08HdZct Ng2vOVM3vzDutNjUfMkWu+eaV/sW67WgnXIgsHcT+sRqhbycb3artGKIQDo5 eqKjzrZFad8w36zFXrTYL9DDVRnX6ZjVByELf5bBTTD8ZSRQuMxyUvAur4pw gzh8he3w8BHndC3Qs7Mgap5Ob1KTOF5eAduo5tVDi4wtULJCviXbY95MkXNh k/7ZAqmeBrEsS8kLFzpttpk9S4vkT1sFqWdkRFfEL0UxWz1J2wNFJZjsewhu VGCdDskFgqLDs1JUiXPD8Z6gDopLjuOSgqWXJb8n47uPaDjk+nM43Ox1QCtR 45FkhxdGjzpCgznptTDJGdGuIEvjg0BRHozaojpreLtPDdRJv3xpjHv3MgQ4 ahPVlK7PF/HheJwu5DaoU0qUDT8jA8989DWg2O0RHjebHPz+SF7h45YQvTLy jqt7Ds03/8aTQKzJvg9zRDvGJ7bkIE9BVZ3R3fDZoXzDYViyh2b8tsIZ55x1 ur+P0B9KTL7hl+TmSLXY7Mh9oWyvbVmWfwCLlvl+7gMAAA== ==== -------- rimshot.sco.gz -------- begin-base64 644 rimshot.sco.gz H4sICP2mKDgCA3JpbXNob3Quc2NvAOMqUTBQMDQy4OLS11IoMFGwVShLzclP ziypVNDS5+LKVDDkVDDQMzAw4DTQMwVRILVQUVMsooZY1Rqiq4UIm0AVG4Fk TaBqtTn1OG1wMAmroKNiC1SvmnNxpSkYgkLTzNjCRMEQyOAEhmlxZl6qQnli WSo4PFO5uLgAamcbP3MBAAA= ==== -------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02961; 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10 Nov 1999 10:51:11 -0000 Date: 10 Nov 1999 10:51:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19991110105111.5945.qmail@freemail.c3.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Varga_Istv=E1n?= Subject: [Csnd] 3D audio using headphones Some headphone 3d audio stuff using HRTF responses (well, there is "hrtfer", but this seems to be better :) To compile the test orc, you need the include files from http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bit/5683/Effects.Incl ude-1.0.3.zip and the convolve files from http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bit/5683/HRTF_files- 1.0.zip -------- test.orc -------- sr = 44100 kr = 1378.125 ksmps = 32 nchnls = 2 #include "Effects.Header.orc" #include "Delays.include.orc" #include "Plain_Stereo.include.orc" #include "Spatial_Stereo.include.orc" #include "HRTF_Stereo.include.orc" / macro for i-rate parameters / #define STATICMACRO # $HRTFStereo # / spat. macro for k-rate parameters / #define DYNMACRO # $HRTFStereoDynHQ # / mono output file / #define OUTFLNAME # "foobar.pcm" # $InitHQDelay seed 0 gabar init 0 #define OSCILLATOR # / generate some test signal / afoo phasor 201 abar phasor 200 afoo = afoo-abar afoo_ tone afoo, 800 afoo = afoo-afoo_ ablah phasor 25 ablah = 2ablah-1 abaz phasor 100(1+ablah0.25) abaz = 2abaz-1 abaz = abaz + afoo aenv linseg 1, p3-0.1, 1, 0.025, 0, 1, 0 a0 = abaz16000aenv # / i-rate / instr 2 i_az_ = p4 / azimuth / i_el_ = p5 / elevation / i_d_ = p6 / distance / $OSCILLATOR a_ = a0 / input signal / gabar = gabar + a_ $STATICMACRO outs a_L_, a_R_ endin / k-rate / instr 3 i_az_ = 0 / init. value for azimuth / i_el_ = -40 / init. value for elevation / i_d_ = 2 / init. value for distance / k_az_ init i_az_ k_el_ init i_el_ k_d_ init i_d_ k_az_ line 0, 10, 1440 / azimuth / k_el_ line -40, 10, 20 / elevation / k_d_ linseg 3, 5, 1.5, 5, 3 / distance / $OSCILLATOR a_ = a0 / input signal / gabar = gabar + a_ $DYNMACRO outs a_L_, a_R_ endin / output instrument / instr 90 soundout gabar, $OUTFLNAME, 6 gabar = 0 endin -------- test.sco -------- t 0 60 / p4 = azimuth, p5 = elevation, p6 = distance / i 2 0 0.5 -60 -40 2 i 2 0.75 0.5 -90 40 2 i 2 1.5 0.5 120 0 2.0 i 2 2.25 0.5 120 0 1.5 i 2 3.0 0.5 120 0 1.0 i 2 3.75 0.5 0 0 1 / dynamic (k-rate) spatialization / i 3 5 10 / output instr. */ i 90 0 16 e -------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk