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> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
Normally this wouldnt be a problem, there would be some disruption to
service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
However in this case the mail aliases database which is vital to the
email list server unexpectedly got deleted.
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
Normally this wouldnt be a problem, there would be some disruption to
service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
However in this case the mail aliases database which is vital to the
email list server unexpectedly got deleted.
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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electronica email lists are running again.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
Normally this wouldnt be a problem, there would be some disruption to
service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
However in this case the mail aliases database which is vital to the
email list server unexpectedly got deleted.
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
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email list server unexpectedly got deleted.
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the traffic to csound bounced.
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electronica email lists are running again.
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
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later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
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David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, electronica@maths.ex.ac.uk
In-Reply-To: <35AE1CFE.10E3C1DC@media.mit.edu> from "Eric Scheirer" at Jul 16, 98 11:32:14 am
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
Normally this wouldnt be a problem, there would be some disruption to
service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
However in this case the mail aliases database which is vital to the
email list server unexpectedly got deleted.
So when the machine came back and started accepting queued messages all
the traffic to csound bounced.
I got the alias file from backups and as far as I know the csound and
electronica email lists are running again.
Sorry for any inconvience, these things happen
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From: Mehmet Okonsar
To: David Schuyeteneer ,
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Subject: How to unsubscribe
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:18:10 +0300
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Hi CSounders!
Can anyone tell me the address and the requested message words for
unsubscribing from the list ..
Thanks
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From: David Schuyeteneer
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Subject: Fw: RANDOM NUMBERS
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:00:47 +0200
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This is from Paul Ruston, he has difficulties with his mailserver and asked
me
to forward it.
later,
David.
> I hope I'm not displaying my ignorance here or encouraging the
> antagonism between the two of you but doesn't Jean Piche's formula
> produce -1's and 0's instead of -1's and +1's ?
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = int(k1+1)-1
>
> What do you think of these suggestions? Is one better than the other?
> (variations of Erik Spjut's suggestion)
>
> k1 rnd(1)
> k2=2*int(2*k1)-1
>
> or
>
> k1 rand 1
> k2 = 2*int(2*abs(k1))-1
>
> And I apologize. I am one of those that does not fully understand the
> random functions (but I'm working on it). Thanks again.
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From: james@maths.ex.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: Csound list postings
To: Eric Scheirer
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:53:24 +0100 (BST)
Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, electronica@maths.ex.ac.uk
In-Reply-To: <35AE1CFE.10E3C1DC@media.mit.edu> from "Eric Scheirer" at Jul 16, 98 11:32:14 am
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Eric Scheirer wrote
>
>Hi James,
>
>My postings to the Csound list don't seem to get through.
>At least, I don't seem to get copies. Can you check to
>see that I'm properly subscribed?
Eric, the email machine had its operating system upgraded yesterday
Normally this wouldnt be a problem, there would be some disruption to
service but 99.9% of messages would get queued and delivered later.
However in this case the mail aliases database which is vital to the
email list server unexpectedly got deleted.
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electronica email lists are running again.
Sorry for any inconvience, these things happen
--
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From: Mehmet Okonsar
To: David Schuyeteneer ,
Csound List |