Hello

I decided to bite the bullet today & upgrade to csound 6.09 ...

currently regretting it ... trying to run csoundQT (via the installer that
came with the OSX package for the 6.09 upgrade ...) & it's crashing (or,
perhaps more specifically, hanging ...) intermittently ... but 4 times out
of 5, & i am only running short test scenarios ...

i am REALLY hoping to get this happening. I have had a really good run of
time & energy this year & have written a bunch of Python code to finally
hopefully throw some finished csound pieces together ... 

I am using CsoundQT mainly to edit partial weightings / FSIG bin groupings
... which i shoot to tables for my performance instruments ... so my whole
process kind of hangs on the QT editing interfaces ...

I am running OSX 10.10.1

i'll downgrade again if necessary (i was using csound 6.06 i think, & QT 0.9
i think ???)

but please please please can somebody help me either resolve or find the
compatible front end for this latest csound upgrade? (my curiousity to look
at the new filters got the better of me essentially ...)

I have nothing to report in the way of diagnosis ... basically the 'rainbow
wheel' spins when i press play, & that's game over ... i have to kill the
application to get out of it ...




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Hi Rory ...

yes i thought about Cabbage today! 

At this point, it's not a priority ... as my sound designs have emerged my
need for MIDI has ... pretty much disappeared ... so (perhaps you are
recalling our brief exchange on the Cabbage list back at the beginning of
this year when i was dusting off my whole set of sonic aspirations...) my
need for it is minimal at this point ... i did consider trying to install it
again & using it just for effects, but it's low priority at this stage ...
certainly sitting behind getting all the work i have done working again ...

& i've done all the design work in QT ... it took weeks ... 

i'd love to look at Cabbage at some point ... but i'm not sure i'm quite at
that point yet ... in my experience, the fewer variables in the setup, the
better ... which is why i delayed this upgrade as long as i have ...

anyway, i'll curtail my tendency for waffle at this point ... Other than to
say nice to hear from you ...





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I'll do my best to get there Rory! I promise you ... (along with the myriad
of other wishes, like having the sufficient time & knowledge to be an asset
to this list & community, rather than a burden on it .. ; ) ...)




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Hi ...

Just to save anyone from typing a potentially lengthy response ... i MAY
have stabilised things by playing with the configuration settings ... if it
starts playing up again i'll post again & continue the thread ... (it
doesn't seem to be crashing any more, but i have hardly put it through its
paces ...)

If there's an obvious glaring issue i don't know about however, please feel
free to jump in of course!

Rory, I do see the wisdom in transition to Cabbage, even if i am just using
the development & GUI aspect & not the plugin (which was the bit i couldn't
get working back in January I recall ... ). A potential wider range of
application, better & more extensive GUI elements... 

But having spent months crawling back to this point (basically, i have
rewritten everything i have, better, more concise, & better designed ...
mainly on the Python side ... 3rd / 4th time lucky ...), so not learning new
tools & writing more code than absolutely necessary is my preferred option
... maybe 2018 ...

& REAscripting in the end was the thing that has helped me throw together a
unified approach. Essentially i am auto-batch rendering audio slices using
Csound & importing all the slices into the DAW on cue with default envelopes
applied ... that took a lot of the complexity out of the Csound designs
(complex polyphony & retriggering ...) & put it somewhere more suited to
managing audio files, & gave it a front end to-boot ...

the scores are all algorithmic using Python, just to complete the scenario
... 

if i live to be 150, i should get all this sorted ...



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Hi Tim,

Please could you give some more information about your crashes:

- can you run CsoundQt binary from console and copy here the output? (Right click on the CsoundQt.App -> Contents -> MacOS and click on the CsoundQt-d-py-cs6 binary)

- the problem might rise from some changes in configuration - you can try to delete or rename the configuration file (in terminal):

cd $HOME/Library/Preferences/

mv com.csound.qutecsound.plist com.csound.qutecsound.plist-old

Or try older (0.9.3) of newer version of CsoundQt (CsoundQt-0.9.5-beta) from:

https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases

Anyway, please report how it goes - I have heard about problems but I guess most users are working with CsoundQt happily :) And there are so many reasons not to go back to Csound 6.06 anyway...

tarmo

On teisipäev, 22. august 2017 11:37.29 EEST you wrote:

> Hi ...

>

> Just to save anyone from typing a potentially lengthy response ... i MAY

> have stabilised things by playing with the configuration settings ... if it

> starts playing up again i'll post again & continue the thread ... (it

> doesn't seem to be crashing any more, but i have hardly put it through its

> paces ...)

>

> If there's an obvious glaring issue i don't know about however, please feel

> free to jump in of course!

>

> Rory, I do see the wisdom in transition to Cabbage, even if i am just usingcd $HOME/Library/Preferences/

> the development & GUI aspect & not the plugin (which was the bit i couldn't

> get working back in January I recall ... ). A potential wider range of

> application, better & more extensive GUI elements...

>

> But having spent months crawling back to this point (basically, i have

> rewritten everything i have, better, more concise, & better designed ...

> mainly on the Python side ... 3rd / 4th time lucky ...), so not learning new

> tools & writing more code than absolutely necessary is my preferred option

> ... maybe 2018 ...

>

> & REAscripting in the end was the thing that has helped me throw together a

> unified approach. Essentially i am auto-batch rendering audio slices using

> Csound & importing all the slices into the DAW on cue with default envelopes

> applied ... that took a lot of the complexity out of the Csound designs

> (complex polyphony & retriggering ...) & put it somewhere more suited to

> managing audio files, & gave it a front end to-boot ...

>

> the scores are all algorithmic using Python, just to complete the scenario

> ...

>

> if i live to be 150, i should get all this sorted ...

>

>

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Hi Tarmo - appreciate your reply ...

>>> can you run CsoundQt binary from console and copy here the output?

as requested below ...

It seems to be OK / running this evening now (although there is a bit of a
lag between the GUI elements & the update to the kcontrol settings ... i can
live with it ... perhaps changes to -b / -B will fix this ... i dabbled ...) 

i think that maybe it was simply some kind of problem with the Realtime
Audio Configuration settings ... The previous version of CsoundQt i was
running was also a bit flaky i now recall, but i found some settings that
worked & i basically left them alone for 2 years ... should have jotted them
down before upgrading ...

its preferable for me to set / switch between -o & -+rtaudio flags by
commenting out ...

-o null
-+rtaudio=null
;-odac

in my .csd header (as i mentioned, i generally have an 'edit' instrument
that has GUI elements, i shoot some tables, & then load in a separate render
instrument that reads the tables for keyspread parameters etc & plays back
my generated .sco rendering straight to 'audio slices' using fout ... hence
i mute all audio output at that point ...)

this is actually easier than flicking back & forth into the Config window if
i can help it & setting -odac etc ... but obviously not at the expense of
crashing the program each time ...

I am also pretty ignorant of the audio setup / dac channels etc in the Mac
in general etc ... i picked up this macbook cheap a few years ago, & after a
hiatus of not using csound for 4 or 5 years got back into it as a result ...
& now having spent many months getting my Python code together, hope to
start doing that in earnest ...

Anyway, very late here (currently living in the Czech Republic .. a cheap &
cheerful year out after the crushing despair & misery of Adelaide, bust most
likely back in the backwaters of Australia by Xmas ...)

If this is a chance to meet / discuss csound with anyone therefore I'm happy
to throw that option open ... pity the conference isn't in Europe this year,
i probably would have gone along for a look ...

command line blurb follows ...

Last login: Wed Aug 23 00:00:52 on ttys000
MacUsers-MacBookNo16-2:~ macuser$
/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6 ; exit;
virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
WARNING: STK opcodes not available: define environment variable RAWWAVE_PATH
(points to rawwaves directory) to use STK opcodes.
0dBFS level = 32768.0
--Csound version 6.09.1 (double samples) Jul 10 2017 
[commit: 0815e64648cdd7497c97d6a82eeffbcc774596a8]
libsndfile-1.0.25
end of score.		   overall amps:      0.0
	   overall samples out of range:        0
0 errors in performance
Elapsed time at end of performance: real: 0.043s, CPU: 0.001s
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/FLOSS
Manual Examples"
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/McCurdy
Collection"
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/Stria
Synth"
Using RtMidi API:  0
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../templates/"
WidgetLayout::loadXmlWidgets Older Widget Format version
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.
WidgetLayout::loadXmlWidgets Older Widget Format version
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.




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Thanks tarmo ...

the short answer, for now, appears to be that csoundQT has changed its
preference for my previously default allocation of -odac for real time
playback to -odac0 ... i'm not sure what the difference is, every time i
nominate an 'out of range number' to try & get a throw to the available
list, csound decides that -odac99999999 means i want to render to AIFF ...

running in terminal results in no 'call back' between the channel input /
output from the GUI elements ... if i don't require GUI elements, i
generally do run csound straight in the terminal ...

incidentally, when i threw to terminal, even with UseCsoundQT realtime audio
options unchecked, it seemed to derive the values from there anyway, not my
.csd header ...

However, if odac0 gets me over the line & stops the thing crashing, odac0 it
is ...

thanks for your help & continuing to maintain this environment that is, all
said & done, fairly crucial to my efforts at the moment ...





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unfortunately this morning my CsoundQT installation simply won't launch at
all. The 'splash' screen / graphic comes up & then that it, it terminates...
no hang, no error, nothing ...

i'm going to have to revert ... hopefully 0.9.3 works with Csound 6.09 ...



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having installed 0.9.3 there are no graphic elements or widgets displayed
whatsoever ...

i'm beginning to recall why i gave up using this for 5 years ... (sorry, not
trying to be narky, but it's frustrating, & just reaffirms my initial
reasoning ... NEVER upgrade if the thing is working & does 95% of what you
want ...)





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sorry ... correction ... i have widgets. the Console window is black
background, & there are no icons across the button menu at the top (play,
pause etc ...)

if it behaves, i can run with it ... none the less, these recent releases
seem much less reliable / stable than the ones from a few years back ...
lets hope this keeps working.

i'll just persevere as best i can for a while, repeatedly reinstall if
necessary (at least that is relatively quick on the mac ... i might event
try installing 0.9.4 again ... 0.9.4.1 in fact the splash screen told me,
not sure if that is significant / different from the 0.9.4 in the Github
download ...)

... if i am unable to run any of it at all i'll post ... obviously there is
not a lot that can be done when there is so little to diagnose, but there
seems to be, on the whole, some major stability issues given my experiences
of the last 36 - 48 hours ...



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just to complete the current scenario ... csoundQT 0.9.4.1, after
reinstallation, still fails to launch on startup ...

& yet it ran yesterday ... no idea ... maybe i can get 0.9.0 (the last
stable one i was using) happening with csound 6.09 ... & if not, i'll revert
back through csounds towards 6.06 ... back to where i was in the beginning
... hopefully that works ...



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Hi,

Thanks, Tim, all this kind of feedback is  welcome!  

Can easily be that 0.9.3 works better for you.  I guess from your symptoms 
that something went wrong with the preferences file. You can try Help->Reset 
Preferences form CsoundQt menu.

I added some settings to version 0.9.4 and changed how and when the settings 
are stored (that is better system in my opinion) so seems that can mess up 
something on OSX, at least in some versions. I keep thinking.

Did you try to delete the configurations file in some step as I suggested some 
mails ago? Might be that this way your 0.9.4.(1) version will work also, but 
feel free to try or not, as you wish.

Sorry for the inconvenience but your frustration and feedback may help to iron 
out some problems for other users in future.

tarmo


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> sorry ... correction ... i have widgets. the Console window is black
> background, & there are no icons across the button menu at the top (play,
> pause etc ...)
> 
> if it behaves, i can run with it ... none the less, these recent releases
> seem much less reliable / stable than the ones from a few years back ...
> lets hope this keeps working.
> 
> i'll just persevere as best i can for a while, repeatedly reinstall if
> necessary (at least that is relatively quick on the mac ... i might event
> try installing 0.9.4 again ... 0.9.4.1 in fact the splash screen told me,
> not sure if that is significant / different from the 0.9.4 in the Github
> download ...)
> 
> ... if i am unable to run any of it at all i'll post ... obviously there is
> not a lot that can be done when there is so little to diagnose, but there
> seems to be, on the whole, some major stability issues given my experiences
> of the last 36 - 48 hours ...
> 
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Please try to delete the preferences file first and restart, please send me 
output from console before you do anything -  this can be valuable feedback!

t

On neljapäev, 24. august 2017 0:46.37 EEST you wrote:
> just to complete the current scenario ... csoundQT 0.9.4.1, after
> reinstallation, still fails to launch on startup ...
> 
> & yet it ran yesterday ... no idea ... maybe i can get 0.9.0 (the last
> stable one i was using) happening with csound 6.09 ... & if not, i'll revert
> back through csounds towards 6.06 ... back to where i was in the beginning
> ... hopefully that works ...
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Hi tarmo ...

no, i didn't try that suggestion you made ... i forgot about it this morning
... i will look at that & if idiot me is unclear on any aspect i'll ask you
... do we keep all this minutae on list?

0.9.0 also now has the same GUI elements problem ... maybe it is the
preferences file ... i will reinstall 0.9.4.1 & then attempt to implement
your preferences suggestion / console request etc ... stand by however for 1
or 2 idiotic questions ; )

first a cup of tea ...

appreciate the help. The only way is forward!

if necessary, i'm tempted to lose my build 'virginity' at this point if it
comes to it. the assertion on the / your QT homepage is that 'it's easy' ...
i / we may learn something useful in the process ...

however lets hope we can find a more trivial fix ...

the reality is, short of burying 9 months of work & going back to doodling
with free orchestra samples, there's not a lot of alternative now by the
looks ...

at the risk of sounding stupid (never stopped me in the past ...) i feel
somewhat comforted by the fact that you are willing & able to assist.






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OK, first things first (tarmo ...)

with a clean re-installation of 0.9.4.1 ... running the binary produces the
following console output ...

Last login: Thu Aug 24 08:54:51 on console
MacUsers-MacBookNo16-2:~ macuser$
/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6 ; exit;
virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
WARNING: STK opcodes not available: define environment variable RAWWAVE_PATH
(points to rawwaves directory) to use STK opcodes.
0dBFS level = 32768.0
--Csound version 6.09.1 (double samples) Jul 10 2017 
[commit: 0815e64648cdd7497c97d6a82eeffbcc774596a8]
libsndfile-1.0.25
end of score.		   overall amps:      0.0
	   overall samples out of range:        0
0 errors in performance
Elapsed time at end of performance: real: 0.000s, CPU: 0.000s
2017-08-24 10:11:20.654 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] *** Assertion failure
in -[NSBitmapImageRep initWithCGImage:],
/SourceCache/AppKit/AppKit-1343.16/AppKit.subproj/NSBitmapImageRep.m:1288
2017-08-24 10:11:20.656 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] An uncaught exception
was raised
2017-08-24 10:11:20.656 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] Invalid parameter not
satisfying: cgImage != NULL
2017-08-24 10:11:20.656 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] (
	0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee764c
__exceptionPreprocess + 172
	1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007fff8be9d6de
objc_exception_throw + 43
	2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee742a +[NSException
raise:format:arguments:] + 106
	3   Foundation                          0x00007fff88e755b9
-[NSAssertionHandler
handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 195
	4   AppKit                              0x00007fff8c72f313
-[NSBitmapImageRep initWithCGImage:] + 135
	5   QtGui                               0x00000001048a9abd
_Z21qt_mac_create_nsimageRK5QIconi + 525
	6   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080adfda
qt_plugin_instance + 154170
	7   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080ab197
qt_plugin_instance + 142327
	8   QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ae58d
_ZN5QMenu11actionEventEP12QActionEvent + 1213
	9   QtWidgets                           0x000000010406aef8
_ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent + 1240
	10  QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ac654
_ZN5QMenu5eventEP6QEvent + 1140
	11  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402a58d
_ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 269
	12  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402ced2
_ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 5906
	13  QtCore                              0x0000000104cbd544
_ZN16QCoreApplication15notifyInternal2EP7QObjectP6QEvent + 164
	14  QtWidgets                           0x000000010405ec61
_ZN7QWidget12insertActionEP7QActionS1_ + 353
	15  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101edb8a9
_ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 213177
	16  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101ecd3d9
_ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 154601
	17  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101eb29aa
_ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 45498
	18  libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff91dd95c9 start + 1
	19  ???                                 0x0000000000000001 0x0 + 1
)
2017-08-24 10:11:20.657 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] *** Terminating app due
to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Invalid
parameter not satisfying: cgImage != NULL'
*** First throw call stack:
(
	0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee764c
__exceptionPreprocess + 172
	1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007fff8be9d6de
objc_exception_throw + 43
	2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee742a +[NSException
raise:format:arguments:] + 106
	3   Foundation                          0x00007fff88e755b9
-[NSAssertionHandler
handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 195
	4   AppKit                              0x00007fff8c72f313
-[NSBitmapImageRep initWithCGImage:] + 135
	5   QtGui                               0x00000001048a9abd
_Z21qt_mac_create_nsimageRK5QIconi + 525
	6   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080adfda
qt_plugin_instance + 154170
	7   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080ab197
qt_plugin_instance + 142327
	8   QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ae58d
_ZN5QMenu11actionEventEP12QActionEvent + 1213
	9   QtWidgets                           0x000000010406aef8
_ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent + 1240
	10  QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ac654
_ZN5QMenu5eventEP6QEvent + 1140
	11  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402a58d
_ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 269
	12  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402ced2
_ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 5906
	13  QtCore                              0x0000000104cbd544
_ZN16QCoreApplication15notifyInternal2EP7QObjectP6QEvent + 164
	14  QtWidgets                           0x000000010405ec61
_ZN7QWidget12insertActionEP7QActionS1_ + 353
	15  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101edb8a9
_ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 213177
	16  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101ecd3d9
_ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 154601
	17  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101eb29aa
_ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 45498
	18  libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff91dd95c9 start + 1
	19  ???                                 0x0000000000000001 0x0 + 1
)
libc++abi.dylib: terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException
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Thanks,

can you make copy of your preferences file befor you delete it and send to me?

I get to my virtual mac (I am on Linux myself) and try to be in parallel with 
you.

t

On neljapäev, 24. august 2017 1:14.26 EEST you wrote:
> OK, first things first (tarmo ...)
> 
> with a clean re-installation of 0.9.4.1 ... running the binary produces the
> following console output ...
> 
> Last login: Thu Aug 24 08:54:51 on console
> MacUsers-MacBookNo16-2:~ macuser$
> /Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6 ; exit;
> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> WARNING: STK opcodes not available: define environment variable RAWWAVE_PATH
> (points to rawwaves directory) to use STK opcodes.
> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
> --Csound version 6.09.1 (double samples) Jul 10 2017
> [commit: 0815e64648cdd7497c97d6a82eeffbcc774596a8]
> libsndfile-1.0.25
> end of score.		   overall amps:      0.0
> 	   overall samples out of range:        0
> 0 errors in performance
> Elapsed time at end of performance: real: 0.000s, CPU: 0.000s
> 2017-08-24 10:11:20.654 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] *** Assertion failure
> in -[NSBitmapImageRep initWithCGImage:],
> /SourceCache/AppKit/AppKit-1343.16/AppKit.subproj/NSBitmapImageRep.m:1288
> 2017-08-24 10:11:20.656 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] An uncaught exception
> was raised
> 2017-08-24 10:11:20.656 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] Invalid parameter not
> satisfying: cgImage != NULL
> 2017-08-24 10:11:20.656 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] (
> 	0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee764c
> __exceptionPreprocess + 172
> 	1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007fff8be9d6de
> objc_exception_throw + 43
> 	2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee742a +[NSException
> raise:format:arguments:] + 106
> 	3   Foundation                          0x00007fff88e755b9
> -[NSAssertionHandler
> handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 195
> 	4   AppKit                              0x00007fff8c72f313
> -[NSBitmapImageRep initWithCGImage:] + 135
> 	5   QtGui                               0x00000001048a9abd
> _Z21qt_mac_create_nsimageRK5QIconi + 525
> 	6   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080adfda
> qt_plugin_instance + 154170
> 	7   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080ab197
> qt_plugin_instance + 142327
> 	8   QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ae58d
> _ZN5QMenu11actionEventEP12QActionEvent + 1213
> 	9   QtWidgets                           0x000000010406aef8
> _ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent + 1240
> 	10  QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ac654
> _ZN5QMenu5eventEP6QEvent + 1140
> 	11  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402a58d
> _ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 269
> 	12  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402ced2
> _ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 5906
> 	13  QtCore                              0x0000000104cbd544
> _ZN16QCoreApplication15notifyInternal2EP7QObjectP6QEvent + 164
> 	14  QtWidgets                           0x000000010405ec61
> _ZN7QWidget12insertActionEP7QActionS1_ + 353
> 	15  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101edb8a9
> _ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 213177
> 	16  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101ecd3d9
> _ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 154601
> 	17  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101eb29aa
> _ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 45498
> 	18  libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff91dd95c9 start + 1
> 	19  ???                                 0x0000000000000001 0x0 + 1
> )
> 2017-08-24 10:11:20.657 CsoundQt-d-py-cs6[686:21029] *** Terminating app due
> to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Invalid
> parameter not satisfying: cgImage != NULL'
> *** First throw call stack:
> (
> 	0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee764c
> __exceptionPreprocess + 172
> 	1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007fff8be9d6de
> objc_exception_throw + 43
> 	2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8aee742a +[NSException
> raise:format:arguments:] + 106
> 	3   Foundation                          0x00007fff88e755b9
> -[NSAssertionHandler
> handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 195
> 	4   AppKit                              0x00007fff8c72f313
> -[NSBitmapImageRep initWithCGImage:] + 135
> 	5   QtGui                               0x00000001048a9abd
> _Z21qt_mac_create_nsimageRK5QIconi + 525
> 	6   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080adfda
> qt_plugin_instance + 154170
> 	7   libqcocoa.dylib                     0x00000001080ab197
> qt_plugin_instance + 142327
> 	8   QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ae58d
> _ZN5QMenu11actionEventEP12QActionEvent + 1213
> 	9   QtWidgets                           0x000000010406aef8
> _ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent + 1240
> 	10  QtWidgets                           0x00000001041ac654
> _ZN5QMenu5eventEP6QEvent + 1140
> 	11  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402a58d
> _ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 269
> 	12  QtWidgets                           0x000000010402ced2
> _ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 5906
> 	13  QtCore                              0x0000000104cbd544
> _ZN16QCoreApplication15notifyInternal2EP7QObjectP6QEvent + 164
> 	14  QtWidgets                           0x000000010405ec61
> _ZN7QWidget12insertActionEP7QActionS1_ + 353
> 	15  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101edb8a9
> _ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 213177
> 	16  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101ecd3d9
> _ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 154601
> 	17  CsoundQt-d-py-cs6                   0x0000000101eb29aa
> _ZN5QHashI7QStringbE13duplicateNodeEPN9QHashData4NodeEPv + 45498
> 	18  libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff91dd95c9 start + 1
> 	19  ???                                 0x0000000000000001 0x0 + 1
> )
> libc++abi.dylib: terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException
> Csound tidy up: Abort trap
> logout
> 
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Hi tarmo ...

i have executed the command line instruction you requested, 

>>> cd $HOME/Library/Preferences/
>>> mv com.csound.qutecsound.plist com.csound.qutecsound.plist-old

but at this stage, that made no difference ... perhaps that is obvious given
the current error ... (i assume the command was executed correctly, the
command line offered no confirmation ...)

anyway, thanks again, i know now at least the first thing to do is execute
the binary & get the error message from the console .... which is progress
...

let me know if you require more info (especially if you are able to instruct
how i go about providing it ...)



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OK, baby steps.

I found the attached preferences file in my user/Library/Preferences ... not
in the home/Library/preferences (again, maybe that's what you meant, my
knowledge of mac OS is ... zero. but i realise there's a generic Library & a
Library for the user. I found my preferences file in the latter, not the
former ... )

com.plist-old
  

anyway, here it is attached (i hope ... via Nabble ...), the 'old' version
... i can see no other ...





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whoah! OK ...

so, just create a folder on the Desktop?, & drag the applications for both
0.9.3 & 0.9.4.1 into them? & not the applications folder?

i couldn't say now which version generated that file ... the last version to
launch sucessfully was 0.9.0 ... 

so, yeah, back to first principles ... we have a fresh re-install of
0.9.4.1, & that doesn't run due to the graphics (?) dependency issue ... (i
am deducing from the command line output)

if you can clarify how i do the side by side install & rescue the
appropriate preferences / reports, i am happy to continue ...

if you want to chat remotely on Skype or something, i'm happy to oblige ...
whatever makes it easier to assist you in assisting me & hopefully provide
useful info in the process ...







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Perhaps everyone else has switched to Cabbage tarmo! ... 

indeed, the bad news is the good news ... i'll try your Beta ...

it ran fine for me yesterday after all ... work that one out! (must have
been because the preferences hadn't updated from 0.9.0 perhaps ... again i
don't 100% understand how that works ... although now do understand how the
preferences carry over despite the reinstallation ...)

anyway, will give it a go ..& i'm glad some good has come from my persistent
whining!






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OK, I have downloaded & installed that (the 93.7 MB dmg ...) , & it runs ...
untested, uneverythinged ...

the first thing i noticed however is that ... as i reported this morning
with 0.9.3 ... the console window is black (so i cant read the outputs that
are black text ..), & the buttons are missing their images from the top menu
(play, pause, utilities etc ...)

running the binary ... something about the 'widget format version' ....

incidentally, is it worth deleting the preferences file prior to
installation? (the only real loss from my perspective would be the default
Template ... that's something that is under constant review anyway ...


Last login: Thu Aug 24 10:30:34 on ttys000
/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6 ; exit;
MacUsers-MacBookNo16-2:~ macuser$
/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6 ; exit;
virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
WARNING: STK opcodes not available: define environment variable RAWWAVE_PATH
(points to rawwaves directory) to use STK opcodes.
0dBFS level = 32768.0
--Csound version 6.09.1 (double samples) Jul 10 2017 
[commit: 0815e64648cdd7497c97d6a82eeffbcc774596a8]
libsndfile-1.0.25
end of score.		   overall amps:      0.0
	   overall samples out of range:        0
0 errors in performance
Elapsed time at end of performance: real: 0.000s, CPU: 0.000s
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/FLOSS
Manual Examples"
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/McCurdy
Collection"
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/Stria
Synth"
Using RtMidi API:  0
"/Applications/CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.app/Contents/MacOS/../templates/"
WidgetLayout::loadXmlWidgets Older Widget Format version
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.
WidgetLayout::loadXmlWidgets Older Widget Format version
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.

(& then on termination ...)
closeEvent
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: width invalid.
CsoundQt::setWidgetPanelGeometry() Warning: height invalid.
CsoundQt::changePage index < 0
CEF closing step 9.
logout

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I have also hung the program on the second attempt ... running a widget free
.csd that was running fine for me last night ... (not sure how i can check
that from the command line ...)

anyway, let me know if i can try & assist further in debugging ... but i
need to wash up & have lunch etc ... i'm here a lot so will be checking
pretty regularly if i'm not asleep ... (I'm GMT +2 ...)

thanks again for all your help ...



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OK, well that was going to be my next move ... delete the plist & let it be
replaced with the old one on the next startup ... (is that how that works?
... it's copied again anyway ... i'm just monitoring & deleting through the
Finder window rather than the command line ...)

ive run that now successfully for a 10 seconds or so on 3 or 4 occasions ...

-odac0 seems to be the best option for output in the .csd header. that is
still my preference to having to go into Preferences (ironically) & toggle
on / off there between -odac0 & null for offline batch rendering ... so,
somewhat tentatively, i am bypassing QTs Realtime Audio options ... i am
fairly confident setting the flags in the .csd as long as long as that is
functional ... there seems to be less GUI lag / latency when i do that also
...

resolving the "black on black" Console window would be helpful ... i can
live without the icons across the top ...

& then, well, we'll see how far we get ... & if it still runs in a few hours
time / tomorrow morning ...

once again, don't take my cynicism as shortage of appreciation tarmo ... you
have my gratitude absolutely.







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sorry, I may need to clarify .. 

do i delete the OLD preferences file or the NEW preferences file?

or should i just delete ALL preferences files & simply reinstall again &
start from ground zero?






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delete the "new" one and keep old one for any case

rm com.csound.qutecsound.plist

next time CsoundQt should start with default options, there should be no 
recent files etc. If it still feels that it remembers something of old 
options, something is wrong and you are deleting probably wrong file.

I am 99% certain that removing the preferences file and starting from "blank" 
should solve the problem.

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well then i think i'm deleting the wrong file, as the preferences are
carrying over ...

i also seem to have a CsoundQt-d-cs6.plist & a CsoundQt-d-py-cs6.plist (the
latter being the most recently updated one ... the first one appears to be a
legacy file from 2015 ...)

should i delete 1 or both of those too perhaps?





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well the logical next step was uninstall ... delete ALL plist files (old &
new, with any relationship to the program, in whatever form) & reinstall ...

i now have buttons ... & i have a white console background, & it runs ...
touch wood, i'll play with it a bit more later this evening ... but perhaps
the 'nuke it' approach was required ...

so i learnt about preference files, & we fixed the QT dependency problem, so
all is not lost ... 37 emails later ...

hopefully i now truck on into the 6.09 sunset ... subject to more extensive
testing ...





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> I am not sure if you can reach this folder from Finder.

i'm pretty sure i can reach it in the Finder ... i just put a aaa.txt in
there using the Finder & listed the directory from the command & the file
showed up in the list ...


 



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i am wondering if there are additional preference files that csoundQT is
throwing to beyond the one you specified ... i needed to remove all of them
in the end to get it to run, cosmetically at least, in a way that appears to
be fully functional ... you may wish to double check that ... (that's my
'layman's deduction' anyway ...)





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(deep breath ...)

unbelievably this whole experience is happening to me again ... despite
working fine for the last however many weeks / months

firstly this evening i launched csoundQT & the interface elements had
defaulted to French ...

i went into the configuration, switched back to English, restarted the
program ... no buttons .... i've seen it all before ...

So i uninstalled, deleted ALL the preference files i could find ...
reinstalled csoundQT ...

still no buttons ... & strangely, my recent files history is being recalled,
so once again there is some mysterious preference file being called upon
that i am unable to find ...

whatever it takes ... can i please (Tarmo) just try & get this working
again?





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It's OK ... i've got buttons again ... although scouring that preferences
folder & deleting everything relevant is an absolute pain in the butt ...
here's hoping that doesn't happen again ... whatever it was ...

apologies for the intrusion ...





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Hi,

Good you got it solved. Obviously there is something that sometimes spoils 
your preferences file -  it is really very hard to guess, what exactly, most 
likely CsoundQt itself but I have not heard about such stories before.

Anyway -  there is a release candidate out there for tryout:
http://tarmo.uuu.ee/varia/failid/cs/CsoundQt/CsoundQt-0.9.5-rc2-MacOS.dmg
Would you care to test that - I have not heard almost anything back from MacOS 
users.

And please join the CsoundQt mailing list for sepecific CsoundQt issues for 
future:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/qutecsound/lists/qutecsound-users

Best!
tarmo


On teisipäev, 17. oktoober 2017 22:18.01 EEST you wrote:
> It's OK ... i've got buttons again ... although scouring that preferences
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> here's hoping that doesn't happen again ... whatever it was ...
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Hi Tarmo ...

have joined the QT list ... i knew there was one out there somewhere ... 
thanks for the link ... 

i've downloaded your installer. i'll make offerings, take a large dose of
tranquilisers, & give it a go tomorrow ...



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curiosity got the better of me Tarmo ...

installed OK ... looks OK ... played one of my FFT patches ok ...

won't be getting extensively used much over the next week or two however as
i'm in the process of heading back to Australia for a bit next week ... 

anyway, so far so good ... 

more on various other disasters as they come to hand .... 





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