Can you help me?

I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
I use alsa sequencer midi driver.

Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.

I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs

So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.

And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
the identifiers for MIDI devices.

But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.

And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives

to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
So I have to change the device IDs for all files.

Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it

Thanks!

Anton

Hi Anton,

Off the top of my head I can think of:

* Using JACK for midi?

* Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI

* Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.

* Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing the
connection with aconnect.

Cheers.

On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
> instead of id?
>
>
> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>
>> Can you help me?
>>
>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>
>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>
>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>
>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Anton
>>
>>
>>

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Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me: csound
-+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of "aconnect -l"
to see if you can find the name of the card.

On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>
> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
> I have never tried it with Csound
>
> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Anton,
>>
>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>
>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>
>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>
>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>
>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing the
>> connection with aconnect.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>> instead of id?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>
>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>
>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>
>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Anton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Wow! That's exactly what I need!

2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:

Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me: csound
-+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of "aconnect -l"
to see if you can find the name of the card.

On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>
> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
> I have never tried it with Csound
>
> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Anton,
>>
>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>
>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>
>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>
>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>
>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing the
>> connection with aconnect.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>> instead of id?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>
>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>
>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>
>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Anton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Thanks alot!

2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:

Wow! That's exactly what I need!

2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:

Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me: csound
-+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of "aconnect -l"
to see if you can find the name of the card.

On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>
> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
> I have never tried it with Csound
>
> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Anton,
>>
>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>
>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>
>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>
>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>
>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing the
>> connection with aconnect.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>> instead of id?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>
>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>
>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>
>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Anton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Alas it's not working for me. I've tried

-M'UMX 250'

And it says

ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not permitted)

2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:

Thanks alot!

2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:

Wow! That's exactly what I need!

2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:

Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me: csound
-+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of "aconnect -l"
to see if you can find the name of the card.

On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>
> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
> I have never tried it with Csound
>
> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Anton,
>>
>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>
>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>
>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>
>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>
>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing the
>> connection with aconnect.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>> instead of id?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>
>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>
>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>
>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Anton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:

client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
    0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
    Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
    Connected From: 128:0

I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My libasound2
version is 1.1.3-5.

On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> It's on my list as follows
>
> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
>     Connected From: 128:0
>
> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>
>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
>>
>> -M'UMX 250'
>>
>> And it says
>>
>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not permitted)
>>
>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Thanks alot!
>>>
>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me: csound
>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of "aconnect -l"
>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing the
>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>>>>>>> instead of id?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Anton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it is
probably Csound.

On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
>
> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
> check if the connection is made.
>
>
> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
>>
>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:
>>>
>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>
>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My libasound2
>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>> It's on my list as follows
>>>>
>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
>>>>>
>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
>>>>>
>>>>> And it says
>>>>>
>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not permitted)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks alot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me: csound
>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of "aconnect
>>> -l"
>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing the
>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
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>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.

On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
> I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi ports
> after reboot.
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it is
>> probably Csound.
>>
>>
>> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
>>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
>>>
>>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
>>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
>>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
>>> check if the connection is made.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:
>>>>>
>>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
>>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
>> libasound2
>>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>> It's on my list as follows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
>>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
>>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
>>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it says
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
>> permitted)
>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me:
>> csound
>>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
>> "aconnect
>>>>> -l"
>>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
>>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>
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Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
-M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
check if the connection is made.

This recipe works!

Maybe I need to update Csound to the very latest version... to work it directly

But atleast I have some predictable way to to it now.

 

2017-07-14 5:16 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:

That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.

On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
> I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi ports
> after reboot.
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it is
>> probably Csound.
>>
>>
>> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
>>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
>>>
>>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
>>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
>>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
>>> check if the connection is made.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:
>>>>>
>>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
>>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
>> libasound2
>>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>> It's on my list as follows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
>>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
>>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
>>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it says
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
>> permitted)
>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me:
>> csound
>>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
>> "aconnect
>>>>> -l"
>>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
>>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>>>>>
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I think it's have to do with interpretation of unary quotes ' ' on my system 

Unfortunately when I try to automize your solution whenever I try to

execute the line: "aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'" from some programming language

I get error on

invalid sender address 'UMX

But with plain integers it works

aconnect 28 129

2017-07-14 11:31 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:

Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
-M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
check if the connection is made.

This recipe works!

Maybe I need to update Csound to the very latest version... to work it directly

But atleast I have some predictable way to to it now.

 

2017-07-14 5:16 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:

That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.

On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
> I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi ports
> after reboot.
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it is
>> probably Csound.
>>
>>
>> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
>>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
>>>
>>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
>>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
>>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
>>> check if the connection is made.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:
>>>>>
>>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
>>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
>> libasound2
>>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>> It's on my list as follows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
>>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
>>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
>>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it says
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
>> permitted)
>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me:
>> csound
>>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
>> "aconnect
>>>>> -l"
>>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
>>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>
>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>
>> Csound mailing list
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>> Send bugs reports to
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>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>
> Csound mailing list
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> Send bugs reports to
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It gives the same error:

> sh 00-dream-pad.sh
invalid sender address ‘UMX

... csound output...

Script content:

#!/usr/sh
csound 00-dream-pad.csd & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’

2017-07-14 13:14 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:

did you try this script?

#!/usr/sh
csound … & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’


========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:10, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If I type it by hand it works on terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'
> but I don't have the way to automate this process..
>
> 2017-07-14 12:49 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> I think it's have to do with interpretation of unary quotes ' ' on my system
> Unfortunately when I try to automize your solution whenever I try to
> execute the line: "aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'" from some programming language
>
> I get error on
>
> invalid sender address 'UMX
>
> But with plain integers it works
>
> aconnect 28 129
>
> 2017-07-14 11:31 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
> check if the connection is made.
>
> This recipe works!
>
> Maybe I need to update Csound to the very latest version... to work it directly
> But atleast I have some predictable way to to it now.
>
>
>
> 2017-07-14 5:16 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.
>
>
> On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
> > I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi ports
> > after reboot.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it is
> >> probably Csound.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
> >>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
> >>>
> >>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
> >>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
> >>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
> >>> check if the connection is made.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> >>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
> >>>>
> >>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
> >>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
> >>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
> >>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
> >> libasound2
> >>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> >>>>>> It's on my list as follows
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
> >>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
> >>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
> >>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
> >>> :
> >>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And it says
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
> >> permitted)
> >>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
> >>> :
> >>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
> >> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me:
> >> csound
> >>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
> >> "aconnect
> >>>>> -l"
> >>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
> >>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
> >>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> >>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> >>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Csound mailing list
> >>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> >>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Csound mailing list
> >>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >>>>> Send bugs reports to
> >>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>>>>
> >>>> Csound mailing list
> >>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >>>> Send bugs reports to
> >>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>>>
> >> Csound mailing list
> >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >> Send bugs reports to
> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>
> > Csound mailing list
> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> > Send bugs reports to
> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >
>
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
>
>
> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here


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I think it might be because the script runs it immediately after starting Csound. Maybe Csound has not
opened alsaseq in time. You can try adding a sleep:

csound … &
sleep 1
aconnect …



========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:27, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's the strange why something that works when I type it doesn't work when I execute
> it from script. I think it's not the question for the list.
>
> I think it's some thing to do with the OS which is Arch.
> I've tried it recently and regret my choice.
> But right now I'm to lazy to switch so I'm trying to make use of it.
>
> 2017-07-14 13:23 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> It gives the same error:
>
> > sh 00-dream-pad.sh
> invalid sender address ‘UMX
> ... csound output...
>
>
> Script content:
>
> #!/usr/sh
> csound 00-dream-pad.csd & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>
>
> 2017-07-14 13:14 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
> did you try this script?
>
> #!/usr/sh
> csound … & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>
>
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
> > On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:10, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If I type it by hand it works on terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'
> > but I don't have the way to automate this process..
> >
> > 2017-07-14 12:49 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > I think it's have to do with interpretation of unary quotes ' ' on my system
> > Unfortunately when I try to automize your solution whenever I try to
> > execute the line: "aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'" from some programming language
> >
> > I get error on
> >
> > invalid sender address 'UMX
> >
> > But with plain integers it works
> >
> > aconnect 28 129
> >
> > 2017-07-14 11:31 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
> > first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
> > -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
> > check if the connection is made.
> >
> > This recipe works!
> >
> > Maybe I need to update Csound to the very latest version... to work it directly
> > But atleast I have some predictable way to to it now.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-07-14 5:16 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.
> >
> >
> > On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
> > > I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi ports
> > > after reboot.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it is
> > >> probably Csound.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
> > >>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
> > >>>
> > >>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
> > >>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
> > >>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
> > >>> check if the connection is made.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
> > >>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
> > >>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
> > >>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
> > >> libasound2
> > >>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>>>> It's on my list as follows
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
> > >>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
> > >>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
> > >>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
> > >>> :
> > >>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> And it says
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
> > >> permitted)
> > >>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
> > >>> :
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
> > >> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me:
> > >> csound
> > >>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
> > >> "aconnect
> > >>>>> -l"
> > >>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
> > >>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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I've make it work by creating a script connect_umx_csound

that just connects the Csound:

#!/usr/bin/sh
aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'

And then I can run it programmatically after start of the csd and it gives no errors,

phew...

That's really strange. 

2017-07-14 13:32 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:

I think it might be because the script runs it immediately after starting Csound. Maybe Csound has not
opened alsaseq in time. You can try adding a sleep:

csound … &
sleep 1
aconnect …



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> On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:27, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's the strange why something that works when I type it doesn't work when I execute
> it from script. I think it's not the question for the list.
>
> I think it's some thing to do with the OS which is Arch.
> I've tried it recently and regret my choice.
> But right now I'm to lazy to switch so I'm trying to make use of it.
>
> 2017-07-14 13:23 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> It gives the same error:
>
> > sh 00-dream-pad.sh
> invalid sender address ‘UMX
> ... csound output...
>
>
> Script content:
>
> #!/usr/sh
> csound 00-dream-pad.csd & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>
>
> 2017-07-14 13:14 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
> did you try this script?
>
> #!/usr/sh
> csound … & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>
>
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
> > On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:10, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If I type it by hand it works on terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'
> > but I don't have the way to automate this process..
> >
> > 2017-07-14 12:49 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > I think it's have to do with interpretation of unary quotes ' ' on my system
> > Unfortunately when I try to automize your solution whenever I try to
> > execute the line: "aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'" from some programming language
> >
> > I get error on
> >
> > invalid sender address 'UMX
> >
> > But with plain integers it works
> >
> > aconnect 28 129
> >
> > 2017-07-14 11:31 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
> > first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
> > -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
> > check if the connection is made.
> >
> > This recipe works!
> >
> > Maybe I need to update Csound to the very latest version... to work it directly
> > But atleast I have some predictable way to to it now.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-07-14 5:16 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.
> >
> >
> > On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
> > > I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi ports
> > > after reboot.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it is
> > >> probably Csound.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
> > >>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
> > >>>
> > >>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try connecting
> > >>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
> > >>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
> > >>> check if the connection is made.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l says:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
> > >>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
> > >>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
> > >>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
> > >> libasound2
> > >>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>>>> It's on my list as follows
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
> > >>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
> > >>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
> > >>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
> > >>> :
> > >>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> And it says
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
> > >> permitted)
> > >>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
> > >>> :
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
> > >> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for me:
> > >> csound
> > >>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
> > >> "aconnect
> > >>>>> -l"
> > >>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something like:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and fixing
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's name
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
> > >>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Just for the record, Anton, could you try running Csound with the
following options? All of these work for me.

csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M"UMX 250"

csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M"UMX\ 250"

csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq -MUMX\ 250

We obviously weren't reading the error message correctly. It is clear
that the problem (as usual) was the quotes and then the space between
UMX and 250:

ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not permitted)

On 14/07/17 07:48, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> Thanks Victor for the hint with the script!
> I think I can also put in the script the jack connection commands.
> That way I can get reliable jack connections without ladish sessions.
>
> 2017-07-14 13:37 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>
>> I've make it work by creating a script connect_umx_csound
>> that just connects the Csound:
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/sh
>> aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'
>>
>> And then I can run it programmatically after start of the csd and it gives
>> no errors,
>>
>> phew...
>>
>> That's really strange.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-07-14 13:32 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
>>
>>> I think it might be because the script runs it immediately after starting
>>> Csound. Maybe Csound has not
>>> opened alsaseq in time. You can try adding a sleep:
>>>
>>> csound … &
>>> sleep 1
>>> aconnect …
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========================
>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>>> Maynooth University,
>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>>
>>>> On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:27, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> That's the strange why something that works when I type it doesn't work
>>> when I execute
>>>> it from script. I think it's not the question for the list.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's some thing to do with the OS which is Arch.
>>>> I've tried it recently and regret my choice.
>>>> But right now I'm to lazy to switch so I'm trying to make use of it.
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 13:23 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>> It gives the same error:
>>>>
>>>>> sh 00-dream-pad.sh
>>>> invalid sender address ‘UMX
>>>> ... csound output...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Script content:
>>>>
>>>> #!/usr/sh
>>>> csound 00-dream-pad.csd & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 13:14 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
>>>> did you try this script?
>>>>
>>>> #!/usr/sh
>>>> csound … & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========================
>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>>>> Maynooth University,
>>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:10, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> If I type it by hand it works on terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'
>>>>> but I don't have the way to automate this process..
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-14 12:49 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>> I think it's have to do with interpretation of unary quotes ' ' on my
>>> system
>>>>> Unfortunately when I try to automize your solution whenever I try to
>>>>> execute the line: "aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'" from some programming
>>> language
>>>>> I get error on
>>>>>
>>>>> invalid sender address 'UMX
>>>>>
>>>>> But with plain integers it works
>>>>>
>>>>> aconnect 28 129
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-14 11:31 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try
>>> connecting
>>>>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
>>>>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
>>>>> check if the connection is made.
>>>>>
>>>>> This recipe works!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I need to update Csound to the very latest version... to work
>>> it directly
>>>>> But atleast I have some predictable way to to it now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-14 5:16 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>> That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
>>>>>> I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi
>>> ports
>>>>>> after reboot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it
>>> is
>>>>>>> probably Csound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
>>>>>>>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try
>>> connecting
>>>>>>>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound
>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq
>>>>>>>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'.
>>> Then
>>>>>>>> check if the connection is made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l
>>> says:
>>>>>>>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
>>>>>>>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
>>>>>>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
>>>>>>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
>>>>>>> libasound2
>>>>>>>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It's on my list as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
>>>>>>>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
>>>>>>>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
>>>>>>>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And it says
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
>>>>>>> permitted)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for
>>> me:
>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
>>>>>>> "aconnect
>>>>>>>>>> -l"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <
>>> gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something
>>> like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and
>>> fixing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's
>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Ok, finally

This way it works:

-+rtmidi=alsaseq --midi-device="UMX 250"

BUT:

This way

--midi-device="UMX 250"  -+rtmidi=alsaseq

It says:

Unknown RawMidi UMX 250

I think it's not good when the order of flags matter.

2017-07-14 15:26 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:

Just for the record, Anton, could you try running Csound with the
following options? All of these work for me.

csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M"UMX 250"

csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M"UMX\ 250"

csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq -MUMX\ 250

We obviously weren't reading the error message correctly. It is clear
that the problem (as usual) was the quotes and then the space between
UMX and 250:

ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not permitted)

On 14/07/17 07:48, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> Thanks Victor for the hint with the script!
> I think I can also put in the script the jack connection commands.
> That way I can get reliable jack connections without ladish sessions.
>
> 2017-07-14 13:37 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>
>> I've make it work by creating a script connect_umx_csound
>> that just connects the Csound:
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/sh
>> aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'
>>
>> And then I can run it programmatically after start of the csd and it gives
>> no errors,
>>
>> phew...
>>
>> That's really strange.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-07-14 13:32 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
>>
>>> I think it might be because the script runs it immediately after starting
>>> Csound. Maybe Csound has not
>>> opened alsaseq in time. You can try adding a sleep:
>>>
>>> csound … &
>>> sleep 1
>>> aconnect …
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========================
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>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>>> Maynooth University,
>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
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>>>
>>>> On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:27, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> That's the strange why something that works when I type it doesn't work
>>> when I execute
>>>> it from script. I think it's not the question for the list.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's some thing to do with the OS which is Arch.
>>>> I've tried it recently and regret my choice.
>>>> But right now I'm to lazy to switch so I'm trying to make use of it.
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 13:23 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>> It gives the same error:
>>>>
>>>>> sh 00-dream-pad.sh
>>>> invalid sender address ‘UMX
>>>> ... csound output...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Script content:
>>>>
>>>> #!/usr/sh
>>>> csound 00-dream-pad.csd & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-07-14 13:14 GMT+03:00 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
>>>> did you try this script?
>>>>
>>>> #!/usr/sh
>>>> csound … & aconnect ‘UMX 250’ ‘Csound’
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========================
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>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>>>> Maynooth University,
>>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Jul 2017, at 11:10, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> If I type it by hand it works on terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'
>>>>> but I don't have the way to automate this process..
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-14 12:49 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>> I think it's have to do with interpretation of unary quotes ' ' on my
>>> system
>>>>> Unfortunately when I try to automize your solution whenever I try to
>>>>> execute the line: "aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'" from some programming
>>> language
>>>>> I get error on
>>>>>
>>>>> invalid sender address 'UMX
>>>>>
>>>>> But with plain integers it works
>>>>>
>>>>> aconnect 28 129
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-14 11:31 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try
>>> connecting
>>>>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound -+rtmidi=alsaseq
>>>>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'. Then
>>>>> check if the connection is made.
>>>>>
>>>>> This recipe works!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I need to update Csound to the very latest version... to work
>>> it directly
>>>>> But atleast I have some predictable way to to it now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-07-14 5:16 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>> That's correct. But we were trying to make the connection by name.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/07/17 21:08, Forrest Curo wrote:
>>>>>> I think that alsa is not always consistent with how it assigns midi
>>> ports
>>>>>> after reboot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> if aconnect can't do it, it's alsaseq and your card. Otherwise it
>>> is
>>>>>>> probably Csound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:49, Guillermo Senna wrote:
>>>>>>>> apt-cache show libasound2 | grep Version
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although I doubt that's what's happening. Maybe you could try
>>> connecting
>>>>>>>> first to the Midi Through port (in my case, csound
>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq
>>>>>>>> -M14) and later in another terminal: aconnect 'UMX 250' 'Csound'.
>>> Then
>>>>>>>> check if the connection is made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:34, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm using Csound 6.09. Not sure on the version of libasound2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:25 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Latest Csound? I'm using Ubuntu Studio 17.04. My aconnect -l
>>> says:
>>>>>>>>>> client 28: 'Scarlett 2i4 USB' [type=kernel,card=3]
>>>>>>>>>>     0 'Scarlett 2i4 USB MIDI 1'
>>>>>>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0]
>>>>>>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can't imagine why it would work for me, but not for you. My
>>>>>>> libasound2
>>>>>>>>>> version is 1.1.3-5.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 18:14, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It's on my list as follows
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> client 32: 'UMX 250' [type=kernel,card=4]
>>>>>>>>>>>     0 'UMX 250 MIDI 1  '
>>>>>>>>>>>     Connecting To: 128:0[real:0], 130:0
>>>>>>>>>>>     Connected From: 128:0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:14 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alas it's not working for me. I've tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -M'UMX 250'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And it says
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ALSASEQ: connection failed from 'UMX, port 0 (Operation not
>>>>>>> permitted)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks alot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:02 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! That's exactly what I need!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-14 0:00 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scratch that. I've tried alsaseq and this one worked for
>>> me:
>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=alsaseq -M'Scarlett 2i4 USB'. Check the output of
>>>>>>> "aconnect
>>>>>>>>>> -l"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see if you can find the name of the card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 17:47, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Guillermo I will investigate the options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that JACK for midi is more appropriate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never tried it with Csound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 23:20 GMT+03:00 Guillermo Senna <
>>> gsenna@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anton,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head I can think of:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using JACK for midi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixing the assignments somehow. If it's USB something
>>> like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.familjenpalo.se/vpo/SoundAndMIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Using raw MIDI instead of alsaseq.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Calling a (non-portable) bash script with system_i and
>>> fixing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection with aconnect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/17 16:50, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible for example to connect to device by it's
>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of id?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-07-13 22:48 GMT+03:00 Anton Kholomiov <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use many csound files as MIDI-synthesizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use alsa sequencer midi driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently I've run into problem with MIDI device IDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've changed the audio card and now it has midi in/outs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I've got MIDI-keyboard and MIDI-capable audio card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when I plug them my PC seems to randomly switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the identifiers for MIDI devices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But in Csound I have to specify the precise number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes it's not the number that  ALSA gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my MIDI-keyboard on the next PC start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to change the device IDs for all files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know some trick to connect Csound with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI-keyboard in this case? More reliable way to do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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