That is great! A little rough yet, but I can't wait to hear all of your
voices saying that SuperCollider is a much better language than Csound!


On 24/04/17 16:00, Rory Walsh wrote:
> I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
>
> https://lyrebird.ai/
>
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Sounds like something that csound could do with some PVS opcodes..

Richard


On 24/04/17 21:24, Guillermo Senna wrote:
> That is great! A little rough yet, but I can't wait to hear all of your
> voices saying that SuperCollider is a much better language than Csound!
>
>
> On 24/04/17 16:00, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
>>
>> https://lyrebird.ai/
>>
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Are those all synthetic voices?? Having that kind of tech in Opcode form
is going to be so much fun.


On 29/04/17 15:04, Rory Walsh wrote:
> How about this:
> http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~mblaauw/IS2017_NPSS/
>
> On 26 Apr 2017 12:16 am, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
> wrote:
>
>> WOW.  When will we have the Lyrebird opcode family in Csound?
>> I can wait!
>>
>> -dB
>>
>> _____________________________________________
>> *Dr. Richard Boulanger*
>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>> Berklee College of Music
>> ______________________________________________
>> President of *Boulanger Labs* - http://boulangerlabs.com
>> Author & Editor of *The Csound Book* - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/
>> csound-book
>> Author & Editor of *The Audio Programming Book* -
>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
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>>
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>
>>> I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
>>>
>>> https://lyrebird.ai/
>>>
>>> Click the demo tab..
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I have already created an issue in GitHub for a Csound opcode or
opcodes to do singing synthesis. I have researched this topic fairly
extensively (https://github.com/csound/csound/issues/658). It is not
ready to go. Here are the reasons:

1. There is money in the singing synthesis business, therefore when
some technology begins to work it is bought or otherwise made
proprietary, such that the code is not available.
2. Most of the interest in singing synthesis comes from "otaku" types
in Japan and China. There is much more work on singing synthesis in
Japanese and Chinese than there is on singing synthesis in English.

That said, not only the Lyrebird examples but also other examples e.g.
from Sinsy and Kanru Hua's Moresampler are musically useful and would
be great to have in Csound. Thus, I am continuing to track the state
of the art and the state of the open source code base in this field.

I do not know what might come of the Lyrebird project, but it sounds
like a client/server approach where a compute farm uses deep learning
and other, more traditional techniques to perform synthesis and return
results in audio clips. It remains to be seen if my idea is correct
and whether the approach could be used in Csound. Certainly the audio
results are impressive and would be very useful.

The approach I am currently pursuing (when I have the time) is to
adapt the phonetics inputs for the Japanese-speaking version of Sinsy
to use English phonetics instead of Japanese phonetics, by creating a
map from English phonetic spelling to Japanese phonetic spelling. In
all likelihood the adaptation would be imperfect, but this is
currently the only approach based on publicly available code that has
a chance of working well enough to be used in Csound, as far as I
know.

 I will keep on looking....

Best,
Mike





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On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
> Are those all synthetic voices?? Having that kind of tech in Opcode form
> is going to be so much fun.
>
>
> On 29/04/17 15:04, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> How about this:
>> http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~mblaauw/IS2017_NPSS/
>>
>> On 26 Apr 2017 12:16 am, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> WOW.  When will we have the Lyrebird opcode family in Csound?
>>> I can wait!
>>>
>>> -dB
>>>
>>> _____________________________________________
>>> *Dr. Richard Boulanger*
>>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>>> Berklee College of Music
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> President of *Boulanger Labs* - http://boulangerlabs.com
>>> Author & Editor of *The Csound Book* - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/
>>> csound-book
>>> Author & Editor of *The Audio Programming Book* -
>>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
>>> about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
>>> music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-
>>> richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
>>> facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
>>>>
>>>> https://lyrebird.ai/
>>>>
>>>> Click the demo tab..
>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
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Quite impressive...

Richard

How about this:

http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~mblaauw/IS2017_NPSS/

On 26 Apr 2017 12:16 am, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

WOW.  When will we have the Lyrebird opcode family in Csound?

I can wait!

-dB

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
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On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:

I can't tell if this is a joke or not?

https://lyrebird.ai/

Click the demo tab..

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It's impressive all right, but I would be surprised if there were
anything open source about it. The Universitat Pompeu Fabra is the
same outfit where Xavier Serra developed the technology that
eventually become the Vocaloid, which is definitely not open source.

The UPF does make a lot of very good source code publicly available.
E.g. the UPF's Essentia library is Affero GPL. This is a strong
copyleft or "free software" license, that is, IT IS NOT REALLY OPEN
SOURCE and IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CSOUND LICENSE.

Too bad!

Just to remind you all, "free software" means source code must be
published AND any derivative product must also be "free software," and
"open source" (which is what Csound's Lesser GPL v2 is) means only
that source code must be published and can be used to make any kind of
derivative product. You cannot usually use code with "free software"
licenses in to make "open source" products.

Regards,
Mike

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On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Richard  wrote:
> Quite impressive...
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 29/04/17 20:04, Rory Walsh wrote:
>
> How about this:
> http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~mblaauw/IS2017_NPSS/
>
> On 26 Apr 2017 12:16 am, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
> wrote:
>>
>> WOW.  When will we have the Lyrebird opcode family in Csound?
>> I can wait!
>>
>> -dB
>>
>> _____________________________________________
>> Dr. Richard Boulanger
>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>> Berklee College of Music
>> ______________________________________________
>> President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
>> Author & Editor of The Csound Book -
>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
>> Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book -
>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
>> ______________________________________________
>> about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
>> about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
>> music:
>> http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/
>> ______________________________________________
>> email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
>> facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
>>>
>>> https://lyrebird.ai/
>>>
>>> Click the demo tab..
>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
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>>> be posted here
>>
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