Looks like per second when I run the manual example

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov wrote:

> The docs says
> 
> Generates random impulses from 0 to 1.
> 
> kres dust kamp, kdensity
> kdensity -- average number of impulses per second.
> 
> 
> But when I try it. It seems that the kdensity is a number 
> of impulses per minute. It generates impulses at much slower
> rate than expected.
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therate depends on kr as well.  Your example generates 15 events in 100 
Change ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about 32 ties more. So the manual 
is incorrect as it stands but the truth is complex.  Will try to undestand 
the code
==John

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov wrote:

> Can you try out my example? It uses dust as trigger for events.
> I use two lines to compare the rate of events:
> 
> line
> 23     ; ktrig  metro 2
> 24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
> 
> We can comment one or another to compare the rates.
> My guess that the rate of events should be the same (2 per second)
> but in the dust case the events should happen not so evenly and out of tempo.
> But we can hear it's not the happening. The `dust` case produces much less
> evenets.
> 
> 2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>       Looks like per second when I run the manual example
>
>       On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>
>       The docs says
>
>       Generates random impulses from 0 to 1.
>
>       kres dust kamp, kdensity
>       kdensity -- average number of impulses per second.
> 
>
>       But when I try it. It seems that the kdensity is a number of
>       impulses per minute. It generates impulses at much slower
>       rate than expected.
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Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per call in krate or per 
sample at a ate.  Not sue how to ecod tis!


On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:

> therate depends on kr as well.  Your example generates 15 events in 100 
> Change ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about 32 ties more. So the manual 
> is incorrect as it stands but the truth is complex.  Will try to undestand 
> the code
> ==John
>
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>
>> Can you try out my example? It uses dust as trigger for events.
>> I use two lines to compare the rate of events:
>> 
>> line
>> 23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>> 24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
>> 
>> We can comment one or another to compare the rates.
>> My guess that the rate of events should be the same (2 per second)
>> but in the dust case the events should happen not so evenly and out of 
>> tempo.
>> But we can hear it's not the happening. The `dust` case produces much less
>> evenets.
>> 
>> 2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>>       Looks like per second when I run the manual example
>>
>>       On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>
>>       The docs says
>>
>>       Generates random impulses from 0 to 1.
>>
>>       kres dust kamp, kdensity
>>       kdensity -- average number of impulses per second.
>> 
>>
>>       But when I try it. It seems that the kdensity is a number of
>>       impulses per minute. It generates impulses at much slower
>>       rate than expected.
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Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change the documentation.

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On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?

2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>:

Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to ecod tis!

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:

therate depends on kr as well.  Your example generates 15 events in 100 Change ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about 32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect as it stands but the truth is complex.  Will try to undestand the code
==John

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov wrote:

Can you try out my example? It uses dust as trigger for events.
I use two lines to compare the rate of events:

line
23     ; ktrig  metro 2
24     ktrig  dust 1, 2

We can comment one or another to compare the rates.
My guess that the rate of events should be the same (2 per second)
but in the dust case the events should happen not so evenly and out of tempo.
But we can hear it's not the happening. The `dust` case produces much less
evenets.

2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00 jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>:
      Looks like per second when I run the manual example

      On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov wrote:

      The docs says

      Generates random impulses from 0 to 1.

      kres dust kamp, kdensity
      kdensity -- average number of impulses per second.


      But when I try it. It seems that the kdensity is a number of
      impulses per minute. It generates impulses at much slower
      rate than expected.
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It has been in csound sice 2012 so rathe late.....

On Sat, 18 Mar 2017, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> maybe not too late, we have not released it yet.
> 
> Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
> On 18 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John ff  wrote:
>
>       Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change the
>       documentation.
> 
> Sent from TypeApp
> On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov 
> wrote:
>       So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?
> 
> 2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>       Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per
>       call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to
>       ecod tis!
> 
>
>       On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:
>
>             therate depends on kr as well.  Your
>             example generates 15 events in 100 Change
>             ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about
>             32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect
>             as it stands but the truth is complex. 
>             Will try to undestand the code
>             ==John
>
>             On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov
>             wrote:
>
>                   Can you try out my example? It
>                   uses dust as trigger for
>                   events.
>                   I use two lines to compare the
>                   rate of events:
>
>                   line
>                   23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>                   24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
>
>                   We can comment one or another
>                   to compare the rates.
>                   My guess that the rate of
>                   events should be the same (2
>                   per second)
>                   but in the dust case the
>                   events should happen not so
>                   evenly and out of tempo.
>                   But we can hear it's not the
>                   happening. The `dust` case
>                   produces much less
>                   evenets.
>
>                   2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00
>                   jpff :
>                         Looks like per second
>                   when I run the manual example
>
>                         On Thu, 16 Mar 2017,
>                   Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>
>                         The docs says
>
>                         Generates random
>                   impulses from 0 to 1.
>
>                         kres dust kamp, kdensity
>                         kdensity -- average
>                   number of impulses per second.
> 
>
>                         But when I try it. It
>                   seems that the kdensity is a
>                   number of
>                         impulses per minute. It
>                   generates impulses at much
>                   slower
>                         rate than expected.
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This seems a pretty big bug though, one that would have come up sooner
if this was being used by a larger part of the community.  I'm
assuming it is not used much and could be a candidate to update, even
at the expense of breaking backwards compatibility.  It seems better
to me than the alternative to move forward and have an awkward note in
the manual.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:33 PM, jpff  wrote:
> It has been in csound sice 2012 so rathe late.....
>
>
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2017, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>
>> maybe not too late, we have not released it yet.
>>
>> Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>>
>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John ff  wrote:
>>
>>       Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change the
>>       documentation.
>>
>> Sent from TypeApp
>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov 
>> wrote:
>>       So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?
>>
>> 2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>>       Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per
>>       call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to
>>       ecod tis!
>>
>>
>>       On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:
>>
>>             therate depends on kr as well.  Your
>>             example generates 15 events in 100 Change
>>             ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about
>>             32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect
>>             as it stands but the truth is complex.
>>             Will try to undestand the code
>>             ==John
>>
>>             On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                   Can you try out my example? It
>>                   uses dust as trigger for
>>                   events.
>>                   I use two lines to compare the
>>                   rate of events:
>>
>>                   line
>>                   23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>>                   24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
>>
>>                   We can comment one or another
>>                   to compare the rates.
>>                   My guess that the rate of
>>                   events should be the same (2
>>                   per second)
>>                   but in the dust case the
>>                   events should happen not so
>>                   evenly and out of tempo.
>>                   But we can hear it's not the
>>                   happening. The `dust` case
>>                   produces much less
>>                   evenets.
>>
>>                   2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00
>>                   jpff :
>>                         Looks like per second
>>                   when I run the manual example
>>
>>                         On Thu, 16 Mar 2017,
>>                   Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>
>>                         The docs says
>>
>>                         Generates random
>>                   impulses from 0 to 1.
>>
>>                         kres dust kamp, kdensity
>>                         kdensity -- average
>>                   number of impulses per second.
>>
>>
>>                         But when I try it. It
>>                   seems that the kdensity is a
>>                   number of
>>                         impulses per minute. It
>>                   generates impulses at much
>>                   slower
>>                         rate than expected.
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You should correct this bug.  I do use dust, but I would adjust

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> On Mar 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> This seems a pretty big bug though, one that would have come up sooner
> if this was being used by a larger part of the community.  I'm
> assuming it is not used much and could be a candidate to update, even
> at the expense of breaking backwards compatibility.  It seems better
> to me than the alternative to move forward and have an awkward note in
> the manual.
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:33 PM, jpff  wrote:
>> It has been in csound sice 2012 so rathe late.....
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2017, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>> 
>>> maybe not too late, we have not released it yet.
>>> 
>>> Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>> 
>>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John ff  wrote:
>>> 
>>>      Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change the
>>>      documentation.
>>> 
>>> Sent from TypeApp
>>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov 
>>> wrote:
>>>      So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?
>>> 
>>> 2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>>>      Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per
>>>      call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to
>>>      ecod tis!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:
>>> 
>>>            therate depends on kr as well.  Your
>>>            example generates 15 events in 100 Change
>>>            ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about
>>>            32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect
>>>            as it stands but the truth is complex.
>>>            Will try to undestand the code
>>>            ==John
>>> 
>>>            On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov
>>>            wrote:
>>> 
>>>                  Can you try out my example? It
>>>                  uses dust as trigger for
>>>                  events.
>>>                  I use two lines to compare the
>>>                  rate of events:
>>> 
>>>                  line
>>>                  23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>>>                  24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
>>> 
>>>                  We can comment one or another
>>>                  to compare the rates.
>>>                  My guess that the rate of
>>>                  events should be the same (2
>>>                  per second)
>>>                  but in the dust case the
>>>                  events should happen not so
>>>                  evenly and out of tempo.
>>>                  But we can hear it's not the
>>>                  happening. The `dust` case
>>>                  produces much less
>>>                  evenets.
>>> 
>>>                  2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00
>>>                  jpff :
>>>                        Looks like per second
>>>                  when I run the manual example
>>> 
>>>                        On Thu, 16 Mar 2017,
>>>                  Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>> 
>>>                        The docs says
>>> 
>>>                        Generates random
>>>                  impulses from 0 to 1.
>>> 
>>>                        kres dust kamp, kdensity
>>>                        kdensity -- average
>>>                  number of impulses per second.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                        But when I try it. It
>>>                  seems that the kdensity is a
>>>                  number of
>>>                        impulses per minute. It
>>>                  generates impulses at much
>>>                  slower
>>>                        rate than expected.
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There already is a dust2:

http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/dust2.html

These follow the design of Dust/Dust2 UGens from SC3. However, from
what I can ascertain in looking at SC3's code, the Dust and Dust2 code
depends upon mSampleDur, which looks to be set differently for 'audio'
and 'control' rate when a UGen is setup from the SC class (affected by
SC_World's Rate_Init()).  The C++ code for Dust2 then works for both
rates because that mSampleDur changes.

I think what happened is that when the Csound versions were
implemented, the code may have been a somewhat literal translation
from the SC3 code, without realization that mSampleDur would be
different at control rate in SC3.  That would hint at a bug then in
initial translation to Csound's conventions, and it would also explain
why dust/dust2 should work correctly at a-rate but not k-rate.

I would imagine it was the intention to match the implementation of
SC3 and accordingly this should be corrected.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> We must preserve backwards compatibility.
>
> We could do a dust2 that behaves as you wish.
>
> Best,
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2017 8:18 AM, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
> wrote:
>>
>> You should correct this bug.  I do use dust, but I would adjust
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >
>> > This seems a pretty big bug though, one that would have come up sooner
>> > if this was being used by a larger part of the community.  I'm
>> > assuming it is not used much and could be a candidate to update, even
>> > at the expense of breaking backwards compatibility.  It seems better
>> > to me than the alternative to move forward and have an awkward note in
>> > the manual.
>> >
>> >> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:33 PM, jpff  wrote:
>> >> It has been in csound sice 2012 so rathe late.....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2017, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> maybe not too late, we have not released it yet.
>> >>>
>> >>> Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> >>> Maynooth University
>> >>> Ireland
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John ff  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>      Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change
>> >>> the
>> >>>      documentation.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from TypeApp
>> >>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>      So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?
>> >>>
>> >>> 2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>> >>>      Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per
>> >>>      call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to
>> >>>      ecod tis!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>      On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>            therate depends on kr as well.  Your
>> >>>            example generates 15 events in 100 Change
>> >>>            ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about
>> >>>            32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect
>> >>>            as it stands but the truth is complex.
>> >>>            Will try to undestand the code
>> >>>            ==John
>> >>>
>> >>>            On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov
>> >>>            wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>                  Can you try out my example? It
>> >>>                  uses dust as trigger for
>> >>>                  events.
>> >>>                  I use two lines to compare the
>> >>>                  rate of events:
>> >>>
>> >>>                  line
>> >>>                  23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>> >>>                  24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
>> >>>
>> >>>                  We can comment one or another
>> >>>                  to compare the rates.
>> >>>                  My guess that the rate of
>> >>>                  events should be the same (2
>> >>>                  per second)
>> >>>                  but in the dust case the
>> >>>                  events should happen not so
>> >>>                  evenly and out of tempo.
>> >>>                  But we can hear it's not the
>> >>>                  happening. The `dust` case
>> >>>                  produces much less
>> >>>                  evenets.
>> >>>
>> >>>                  2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00
>> >>>                  jpff :
>> >>>                        Looks like per second
>> >>>                  when I run the manual example
>> >>>
>> >>>                        On Thu, 16 Mar 2017,
>> >>>                  Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>                        The docs says
>> >>>
>> >>>                        Generates random
>> >>>                  impulses from 0 to 1.
>> >>>
>> >>>                        kres dust kamp, kdensity
>> >>>                        kdensity -- average
>> >>>                  number of impulses per second.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>                        But when I try it. It
>> >>>                  seems that the kdensity is a
>> >>>                  number of
>> >>>                        impulses per minute. It
>> >>>                  generates impulses at much
>> >>>                  slower
>> >>>                        rate than expected.
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Dust3

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> There already is a dust2:
> 
> http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/dust2.html
> 
> These follow the design of Dust/Dust2 UGens from SC3. However, from
> what I can ascertain in looking at SC3's code, the Dust and Dust2 code
> depends upon mSampleDur, which looks to be set differently for 'audio'
> and 'control' rate when a UGen is setup from the SC class (affected by
> SC_World's Rate_Init()).  The C++ code for Dust2 then works for both
> rates because that mSampleDur changes.
> 
> I think what happened is that when the Csound versions were
> implemented, the code may have been a somewhat literal translation
> from the SC3 code, without realization that mSampleDur would be
> different at control rate in SC3.  That would hint at a bug then in
> initial translation to Csound's conventions, and it would also explain
> why dust/dust2 should work correctly at a-rate but not k-rate.
> 
> I would imagine it was the intention to match the implementation of
> SC3 and accordingly this should be corrected.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> We must preserve backwards compatibility.
>> 
>> We could do a dust2 that behaves as you wish.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017 8:18 AM, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You should correct this bug.  I do use dust, but I would adjust
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This seems a pretty big bug though, one that would have come up sooner
>>>> if this was being used by a larger part of the community.  I'm
>>>> assuming it is not used much and could be a candidate to update, even
>>>> at the expense of breaking backwards compatibility.  It seems better
>>>> to me than the alternative to move forward and have an awkward note in
>>>> the manual.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:33 PM, jpff  wrote:
>>>>> It has been in csound sice 2012 so rathe late.....
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2017, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> maybe not too late, we have not released it yet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John ff  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>     documentation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from TypeApp
>>>>>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>     So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>>>>>>     Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per
>>>>>>     call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to
>>>>>>     ecod tis!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>           therate depends on kr as well.  Your
>>>>>>           example generates 15 events in 100 Change
>>>>>>           ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about
>>>>>>           32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect
>>>>>>           as it stands but the truth is complex.
>>>>>>           Will try to undestand the code
>>>>>>           ==John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>           On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov
>>>>>>           wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                 Can you try out my example? It
>>>>>>                 uses dust as trigger for
>>>>>>                 events.
>>>>>>                 I use two lines to compare the
>>>>>>                 rate of events:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                 line
>>>>>>                 23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>>>>>>                 24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                 We can comment one or another
>>>>>>                 to compare the rates.
>>>>>>                 My guess that the rate of
>>>>>>                 events should be the same (2
>>>>>>                 per second)
>>>>>>                 but in the dust case the
>>>>>>                 events should happen not so
>>>>>>                 evenly and out of tempo.
>>>>>>                 But we can hear it's not the
>>>>>>                 happening. The `dust` case
>>>>>>                 produces much less
>>>>>>                 evenets.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                 2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00
>>>>>>                 jpff :
>>>>>>                       Looks like per second
>>>>>>                 when I run the manual example
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                       On Thu, 16 Mar 2017,
>>>>>>                 Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                       The docs says
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                       Generates random
>>>>>>                 impulses from 0 to 1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                       kres dust kamp, kdensity
>>>>>>                       kdensity -- average
>>>>>>                 number of impulses per second.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                       But when I try it. It
>>>>>>                 seems that the kdensity is a
>>>>>>                 number of
>>>>>>                       impulses per minute. It
>>>>>>                 generates impulses at much
>>>>>>                 slower
>>>>>>                       rate than expected.
>>>>>>                 Csound mailing list
>>>>>>                 Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>                 https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
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>>>>>>                 to
>>>>>>                 https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>>>>>>                 features can
>>>>>>                 be posted here
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========================
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> On 19 Mar 2017, at 15:51, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> 
> I think that sounds like a good solution 
> 
> 19. mar. 2017 8.12 a.m. skrev "John ff" :
> How to proceed?  Would anyone object if this were changed to coincide with SC?
> 
> Sent from TypeApp
> On 18 Mar 2017, at 21:51, Steven Yi  wrote:
> There already is a dust2:
> 
> http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/dust2.html
> 
> These follow the design of Dust/Dust2 UGens from SC3. However, from
> what I can ascertain in looking at SC3's code, the Dust and Dust2 code
> depends upon mSampleDur, which looks to be set differently for 'audio'
> and 'control' rate when a UGen is setup from the SC class (affected by
> SC_World's Rate_Init()).  The C++ code for Dust2 then works for both
> rates because that mSampleDur changes.
> 
> I think what happened is that when the Csound versions were
> implemented, the code may have been a somewhat literal translation
> from the SC3 code, without realization that mSampleDur would be
> different at control rate in SC3.  That would hint at a bug then in
> initial translation to Csound's conventions, and it would also explain
> why dust/dust2 should work correctly at a-rate but not k-rate.
> 
> I would imagine it was the intention to match the implementation of
> SC3 and accordingly this should be corrected.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>  We must preserve backwards compatibility.
> 
>  We could do a dust2 that behaves as you wish.
> 
>  Best,
>  Mike
> 
> 
> 
>  On Mar 19, 2017 8:18 AM, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
>  wrote:
> 
>  You should correct this bug.  I do use dust, but I would adjust
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  On Mar 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
>  This seems a pretty big bug though, one that would have come up sooner
>  if this was being used by a larger part of the community.  I'm
>  assuming it is not used much and could be a candidate to update, even
>  at the expense of breaking backwards compatibility.  It seems better
>  to me than the alternative to move forward and have an awkward note in
>  the manual.
> 
>  On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:33 PM, jpff  wrote:
>  It has been in csound sice 2012 so rathe late.....
> 
> 
>  On Sat, 18 Mar 2017, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> 
>  maybe not too late, we have not released it yet.
> 
>  Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>  Maynooth University
>  Ireland
> 
>  On 18 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John ff  wrote:
> 
>       Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change
>  the
>       documentation.
> 
>  Sent from TypeApp
>  On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov 
>  wrote:
>       So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?
> 
>  2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>       Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per
>       call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to
>       ecod tis!
> 
> 
>       On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:
> 
>             therate depends on kr as well.  Your
>             example generates 15 events in 100 Change
>             ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about
>             32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect
>             as it stands but the truth is complex.
>             Will try to undestand the code
>             ==John
> 
>             On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov
>             wrote:
> 
>                   Can you try out my example? It
>                   uses dust as trigger for
>                   events.
>                   I use two lines to compare the
>                   rate of events:
> 
>                   line
>                   23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>                   24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
> 
>                   We can comment one or another
>                   to compare the rates.
>                   My guess that the rate of
>                   events should be the same (2
>                   per second)
>                   but in the dust case the
>                   events should happen not so
>                   evenly and out of tempo.
>                   But we can hear it's not the
>                   happening. The `dust` case
>                   produces much less
>                   evenets.
> 
>                   2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00
>                   jpff :
>                         Looks like per second
>                   when I run the manual example
> 
>                         On Thu, 16 Mar 2017,
>                   Anton Kholomiov wrote:
> 
>                         The docs says
> 
>                         Generates random
>                   impulses from 0 to 1.
> 
>                         kres dust kamp, kdensity
>                         kdensity -- average
>                   number of impulses per second.
> 
> 
>                         But when I try it. It
>                   seems that the kdensity is a
>                   number of
>                         impulses per minute. It
>                   generates impulses at much
>                   slower
>                         rate than expected.
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Yes, please do just change dust/dust2.

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Victor Lazzarini
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> I think so.
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>> On 19 Mar 2017, at 15:51, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> I think that sounds like a good solution
>>
>> 19. mar. 2017 8.12 a.m. skrev "John ff" :
>> How to proceed?  Would anyone object if this were changed to coincide with SC?
>>
>> Sent from TypeApp
>> On 18 Mar 2017, at 21:51, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> There already is a dust2:
>>
>> http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/dust2.html
>>
>> These follow the design of Dust/Dust2 UGens from SC3. However, from
>> what I can ascertain in looking at SC3's code, the Dust and Dust2 code
>> depends upon mSampleDur, which looks to be set differently for 'audio'
>> and 'control' rate when a UGen is setup from the SC class (affected by
>> SC_World's Rate_Init()).  The C++ code for Dust2 then works for both
>> rates because that mSampleDur changes.
>>
>> I think what happened is that when the Csound versions were
>> implemented, the code may have been a somewhat literal translation
>> from the SC3 code, without realization that mSampleDur would be
>> different at control rate in SC3.  That would hint at a bug then in
>> initial translation to Csound's conventions, and it would also explain
>> why dust/dust2 should work correctly at a-rate but not k-rate.
>>
>> I would imagine it was the intention to match the implementation of
>> SC3 and accordingly this should be corrected.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>  We must preserve backwards compatibility.
>>
>>  We could do a dust2 that behaves as you wish.
>>
>>  Best,
>>  Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mar 19, 2017 8:18 AM, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  You should correct this bug.  I do use dust, but I would adjust
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>  On Mar 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>>  This seems a pretty big bug though, one that would have come up sooner
>>  if this was being used by a larger part of the community.  I'm
>>  assuming it is not used much and could be a candidate to update, even
>>  at the expense of breaking backwards compatibility.  It seems better
>>  to me than the alternative to move forward and have an awkward note in
>>  the manual.
>>
>>  On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 12:33 PM, jpff  wrote:
>>  It has been in csound sice 2012 so rathe late.....
>>
>>
>>  On Sat, 18 Mar 2017, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>>  maybe not too late, we have not released it yet.
>>
>>  Victor Lazzarini Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>  Maynooth University
>>  Ireland
>>
>>  On 18 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John ff  wrote:
>>
>>       Yes, but it is too late to change the code.  I tried to change
>>  the
>>       documentation.
>>
>>  Sent from TypeApp
>>  On 18 Mar 2017, at 07:32, Anton Kholomiov 
>>  wrote:
>>       So for k-rate case the rate have to be scaled by ksmps ?
>>
>>  2017-03-17 19:31 GMT+03:00 jpff :
>>       Experiment suggest that te desity is per second per
>>       call in krate or per sample at a ate.  Not sue how to
>>       ecod tis!
>>
>>
>>       On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, jpff wrote:
>>
>>             therate depends on kr as well.  Your
>>             example generates 15 events in 100 Change
>>             ksmps to 1 and you get 400 in 100s, about
>>             32 ties more. So the manual is incorrect
>>             as it stands but the truth is complex.
>>             Will try to undestand the code
>>             ==John
>>
>>             On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Anton Kholomiov
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                   Can you try out my example? It
>>                   uses dust as trigger for
>>                   events.
>>                   I use two lines to compare the
>>                   rate of events:
>>
>>                   line
>>                   23     ; ktrig  metro 2
>>                   24     ktrig  dust 1, 2
>>
>>                   We can comment one or another
>>                   to compare the rates.
>>                   My guess that the rate of
>>                   events should be the same (2
>>                   per second)
>>                   but in the dust case the
>>                   events should happen not so
>>                   evenly and out of tempo.
>>                   But we can hear it's not the
>>                   happening. The `dust` case
>>                   produces much less
>>                   evenets.
>>
>>                   2017-03-16 18:21 GMT+03:00
>>                   jpff :
>>                         Looks like per second
>>                   when I run the manual example
>>
>>                         On Thu, 16 Mar 2017,
>>                   Anton Kholomiov wrote:
>>
>>                         The docs says
>>
>>                         Generates random
>>                   impulses from 0 to 1.
>>
>>                         kres dust kamp, kdensity
>>                         kdensity -- average
>>                   number of impulses per second.
>>
>>
>>                         But when I try it. It
>>                   seems that the kdensity is a
>>                   number of
>>                         impulses per minute. It
>>                   generates impulses at much
>>                   slower
>>                         rate than expected.
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WARNING!! i have changed dust and dust2 in k-rate version to agree with 
the documentation, and added a note in the manual.

So if you use dust or dust2 at k-rate please be aware of the bug fix from 
git or next release.

Apologies for this incompatible change but as the opcode is a copy of a 
SuperCollider one it seems right to make the change

==John ff

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