How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?

How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?

Date	2016-07-30 10:49
From	Anton Kholomiov
Subject	How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between csound and pianoteq. \ Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? To reopen the program is too slow. Anton Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-30 11:16
From	Tarmo Johannes
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	Hi, Can you use Pianoteq through jack? Then you could use jacko opcodes or jackconnect to route pianoteq output to Csound and you can control anything. Otherwise I think you need some kind of script or master program that does midi routing with alsa tools (aconnect was it I think). There might be better ways... Tarmo 30.07.2016 12:49 kirjutas kuupäeval "Anton Kholomiov" <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>: When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between csound and pianoteq. \ Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? To reopen the program is too slow. Anton Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-30 17:46
From	Oeyvind Brandtsegg
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	... or route midi through Csound, and switch different destinations from there 2016-07-30 12:16 GMT+02:00 Tarmo Johannes : > Hi, > > Can you use Pianoteq through jack? Then you could use jacko opcodes or > jackconnect to route pianoteq output to Csound and you can control anything. > > Otherwise I think you need some kind of script or master program that does > midi routing with alsa tools (aconnect was it I think). > > There might be better ways... > > Tarmo > > > 30.07.2016 12:49 kirjutas kuupäeval "Anton Kholomiov" > : >> >> When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start >> a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. >> I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between >> csound and pianoteq. \ >> >> Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? >> >> To reopen the program is too slow. >> >> Anton >> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can >> be posted here > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here -- Oeyvind Brandtsegg Professor of Music Technology NTNU 7491 Trondheim Norway Cell: +47 92 203 205 http://www.partikkelaudio.com/ http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg http://flyndresang.no/ http://soundcloud.com/t-emp Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-30 18:17
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	Hi Anton, Which MIDI driver are you using? I only recently was made aware of the alsaseq driver for MIDI which advertises "Multiple concurrent access": http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/RealTimeLinux.html Maybe that could be useful here? steven On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Anton Kholomiov wrote: > When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start > a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. > I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between > csound and pianoteq. \ > > Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? > > To reopen the program is too slow. > > Anton > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-31 11:36
From	Anton Kholomiov
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	Thanks for tips, but I'm not sure how to apply them(( How can I change the destinations? Is it with some specific opcodes. How should I set up the instruments. Is it a main Csound instrument that grabs the midi-device and other instruments are listening to the Midi-through ports? I don't know I'm using something default on linux. I don't set any midi specific flags, only: --midi-device=a I don't know how to route midi through csound and how to pass it to other non-csound plugins. If you have some links to tutorials or pages at the manual they are welcome. 2016-07-30 20:17 GMT+03:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>: Hi Anton, Which MIDI driver are you using? I only recently was made aware of the alsaseq driver for MIDI which advertises "Multiple concurrent access": http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/RealTimeLinux.html Maybe that could be useful here? steven On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote: > When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start > a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. > I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between > csound and pianoteq. \ > > Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? > > To reopen the program is too slow. > > Anton > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-31 12:14
From	Tarmo Johannes
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	Hi, If you have Csound running, can you see it in Pianoteq? If yes, you just need to use midi out commands (sorry, not close to computer to check out) to pass the commands read with midiin in your csound instrument. Sorry for being vague, hopefully it helps further. T 31.07.2016 13:36 kirjutas kuupäeval "Anton Kholomiov" <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>: Thanks for tips, but I'm not sure how to apply them(( How can I change the destinations? Is it with some specific opcodes. How should I set up the instruments. Is it a main Csound instrument that grabs the midi-device and other instruments are listening to the Midi-through ports? I don't know I'm using something default on linux. I don't set any midi specific flags, only: --midi-device=a I don't know how to route midi through csound and how to pass it to other non-csound plugins. If you have some links to tutorials or pages at the manual they are welcome. 2016-07-30 20:17 GMT+03:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>: Hi Anton, Which MIDI driver are you using? I only recently was made aware of the alsaseq driver for MIDI which advertises "Multiple concurrent access": http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/RealTimeLinux.html Maybe that could be useful here? steven On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote: > When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start > a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. > I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between > csound and pianoteq. \ > > Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? > > To reopen the program is too slow. > > Anton > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-31 13:44
From	Anton Kholomiov
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	This way means I need to encode the possibility of switch inside my csound instrument. It's not a flexible approach. I like the idea of having a Csound-instrument midi router and pianoteq and other csound instruments that listen on midi ports for the csound-router. But I don't understand how to do the routing. The csound midi-out instrument is registered with the single port. And I can only listen to it with other sound-producing instruments. But how can I select to wich instrument to send the midi messages? Maybe there is a lightweight plugin host on linux where I can load the csound instruments and other plugins and I can use some hot keys or specific messages to change the midi-routing. Do you know such a soft? 2016-07-31 14:14 GMT+03:00 Tarmo Johannes <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee>: Hi, If you have Csound running, can you see it in Pianoteq? If yes, you just need to use midi out commands (sorry, not close to computer to check out) to pass the commands read with midiin in your csound instrument. Sorry for being vague, hopefully it helps further. T 31.07.2016 13:36 kirjutas kuupäeval "Anton Kholomiov" <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>: Thanks for tips, but I'm not sure how to apply them(( How can I change the destinations? Is it with some specific opcodes. How should I set up the instruments. Is it a main Csound instrument that grabs the midi-device and other instruments are listening to the Midi-through ports? I don't know I'm using something default on linux. I don't set any midi specific flags, only: --midi-device=a I don't know how to route midi through csound and how to pass it to other non-csound plugins. If you have some links to tutorials or pages at the manual they are welcome. 2016-07-30 20:17 GMT+03:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>: Hi Anton, Which MIDI driver are you using? I only recently was made aware of the alsaseq driver for MIDI which advertises "Multiple concurrent access": http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/RealTimeLinux.html Maybe that could be useful here? steven On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote: > When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start > a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. > I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between > csound and pianoteq. \ > > Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? > > To reopen the program is too slow. > > Anton > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-31 14:06
From	Anders Genell
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	Csound now supports Jack MIDI, so if you are comfortable using Jack, there should be plenty of possibilities to route midi between csound, pianoteq and whatever hardware you are using. You need to use the command line flag -+rtmidi=jack to enable it for csound. Regards Anders 31 juli 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@GMAIL.COM>: This way means I need to encode the possibility of switch inside my csound instrument. It's not a flexible approach. I like the idea of having a Csound-instrument midi router and pianoteq and other csound instruments that listen on midi ports for the csound-router. But I don't understand how to do the routing. The csound midi-out instrument is registered with the single port. And I can only listen to it with other sound-producing instruments. But how can I select to wich instrument to send the midi messages? Maybe there is a lightweight plugin host on linux where I can load the csound instruments and other plugins and I can use some hot keys or specific messages to change the midi-routing. Do you know such a soft? 2016-07-31 14:14 GMT+03:00 Tarmo Johannes <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee>: Hi, If you have Csound running, can you see it in Pianoteq? If yes, you just need to use midi out commands (sorry, not close to computer to check out) to pass the commands read with midiin in your csound instrument. Sorry for being vague, hopefully it helps further. T 31.07.2016 13:36 kirjutas kuupäeval "Anton Kholomiov" <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>: Thanks for tips, but I'm not sure how to apply them(( How can I change the destinations? Is it with some specific opcodes. How should I set up the instruments. Is it a main Csound instrument that grabs the midi-device and other instruments are listening to the Midi-through ports? I don't know I'm using something default on linux. I don't set any midi specific flags, only: --midi-device=a I don't know how to route midi through csound and how to pass it to other non-csound plugins. If you have some links to tutorials or pages at the manual they are welcome. 2016-07-30 20:17 GMT+03:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>: Hi Anton, Which MIDI driver are you using? I only recently was made aware of the alsaseq driver for MIDI which advertises "Multiple concurrent access": http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/RealTimeLinux.html Maybe that could be useful here? steven On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote: > When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start > a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. > I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between > csound and pianoteq. \ > > Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? > > To reopen the program is too slow. > > Anton > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Date	2016-07-31 14:40
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	Re: How to quickly switch between Csound and plugins (pianoteq) on stage with a single midi-keyboard?
	Or you can use the Jacko opcodes, which provide finger grained control. Regards, Mike On Jul 31, 2016 9:06 AM, "Anders Genell" <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote: Csound now supports Jack MIDI, so if you are comfortable using Jack, there should be plenty of possibilities to route midi between csound, pianoteq and whatever hardware you are using. You need to use the command line flag -+rtmidi=jack to enable it for csound. Regards Anders 31 juli 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@GMAIL.COM>: This way means I need to encode the possibility of switch inside my csound instrument. It's not a flexible approach. I like the idea of having a Csound-instrument midi router and pianoteq and other csound instruments that listen on midi ports for the csound-router. But I don't understand how to do the routing. The csound midi-out instrument is registered with the single port. And I can only listen to it with other sound-producing instruments. But how can I select to wich instrument to send the midi messages? Maybe there is a lightweight plugin host on linux where I can load the csound instruments and other plugins and I can use some hot keys or specific messages to change the midi-routing. Do you know such a soft? 2016-07-31 14:14 GMT+03:00 Tarmo Johannes <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee>: Hi, If you have Csound running, can you see it in Pianoteq? If yes, you just need to use midi out commands (sorry, not close to computer to check out) to pass the commands read with midiin in your csound instrument. Sorry for being vague, hopefully it helps further. T 31.07.2016 13:36 kirjutas kuupäeval "Anton Kholomiov" <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com>: Thanks for tips, but I'm not sure how to apply them(( How can I change the destinations? Is it with some specific opcodes. How should I set up the instruments. Is it a main Csound instrument that grabs the midi-device and other instruments are listening to the Midi-through ports? I don't know I'm using something default on linux. I don't set any midi specific flags, only: --midi-device=a I don't know how to route midi through csound and how to pass it to other non-csound plugins. If you have some links to tutorials or pages at the manual they are welcome. 2016-07-30 20:17 GMT+03:00 Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>: Hi Anton, Which MIDI driver are you using? I only recently was made aware of the alsaseq driver for MIDI which advertises "Multiple concurrent access": http://csound.github.io/docs/manual/RealTimeLinux.html Maybe that could be useful here? steven On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Anton Kholomiov <anton.kholomiov@gmail.com> wrote: > When I play csound synth it captures the midi device and when I start > a plugin (say pianoteq) it grabs the midi too and csound is not playable. > I'd like to be able to quickly switch the stream of midi messages between > csound and pianoteq. \ > > Is it possible? Has anyone tried to do it in live setting? > > To reopen the program is too slow. > > Anton > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here