Hi,

what could be useful for you -  I did quite a lot of experimentation with 
various combinations of parameters and compiled a number of "presets" to pull 
out from scanned synthesis. I attach the file here.

If you use CsoundQt, open Live event sheets and you can play around with the 
presest and different parameters.

I like scanned synthesis in the sence that the sound has it own life and it 
just develops. The sound tends to be quite sharp (lots of harmonics), so it 
can be very good material for various filters.

Definitely go on and let hear, what you will find!

Cheers!
tarmo

On Tuesday 29 March 2016 21:51:48 you wrote:
> While researching physical modeling (concretely the mass-spring model) I
> happened to come across scanned synthesis, it seems a really interesting
> synthesis method that for some reason is underdeveloped and forgotten (I
> think I already read most of the papers and posts about it on the internet
> ... ).
> 
> To me one of the things that makes it appealing is the fact that it can
> generate organically changing timbres (for example if you re-excite the
> model while vibrating it generates a different sound) and control those in
> a dynamic way (It seems to me that you could develop some playing
> techniques to change timbre only by exciting the model in particular ways,
> like vibrating it really fast in some pattern or something like that) in a
> way that resembles real instruments but the timbre doesn't necessarily
> imitate those.
> 
> Is there a reason it's underdeveloped? , maybe it doesn't live up to it's
> expectations?, it's hard to predict and control? it's authors seemed very
> enthusiastic about it.
> 
> Anyways I'm going to give it a try and play with it but please tell me your
> experiences and opinions about it!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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hi tarmo -

this should be added to the csoundqt examples!  (we already have the 
circularstring-128 in the source materials of the floss manual examples, 
so should be possible to link to there.)

i got some messages like this:
unknown opcode ;
illegal RT scoreline:
;       ;        ;        ;        ;amp dbFS       ;init       ;irate 
     ;massed       ;centering       ;scanning trajectory       ;freq

but this is probably not very relevant.

cheers -
	joachim


On 29/03/16 22:23, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what could be useful for you -  I did quite a lot of experimentation with
> various combinations of parameters and compiled a number of "presets" to pull
> out from scanned synthesis. I attach the file here.
>
> If you use CsoundQt, open Live event sheets and you can play around with the
> presest and different parameters.
>
> I like scanned synthesis in the sence that the sound has it own life and it
> just develops. The sound tends to be quite sharp (lots of harmonics), so it
> can be very good material for various filters.
>
> Definitely go on and let hear, what you will find!
>
> Cheers!
> tarmo
>
> On Tuesday 29 March 2016 21:51:48 you wrote:
>> While researching physical modeling (concretely the mass-spring model) I
>> happened to come across scanned synthesis, it seems a really interesting
>> synthesis method that for some reason is underdeveloped and forgotten (I
>> think I already read most of the papers and posts about it on the internet
>> ... ).
>>
>> To me one of the things that makes it appealing is the fact that it can
>> generate organically changing timbres (for example if you re-excite the
>> model while vibrating it generates a different sound) and control those in
>> a dynamic way (It seems to me that you could develop some playing
>> techniques to change timbre only by exciting the model in particular ways,
>> like vibrating it really fast in some pattern or something like that) in a
>> way that resembles real instruments but the timbre doesn't necessarily
>> imitate those.
>>
>> Is there a reason it's underdeveloped? , maybe it doesn't live up to it's
>> expectations?, it's hard to predict and control? it's authors seemed very
>> enthusiastic about it.
>>
>> Anyways I'm going to give it a try and play with it but please tell me your
>> experiences and opinions about it!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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I just started exploring scanned synthesis a couple of days ago too,
haven't got very far yet, and I've only tried out scantable so far,
but I've got the basis for some pad sounds. I also experimented with
using scanned synth to control an f-table for the distort opcode. It's
not that exciting yet, but here's the fruits of my labour so far....

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Gerard Rodríguez
 wrote:
> Thanks for sharing Tarmo, it will be very useful.
> Thanks for mentioning Steven Yi's music, I looked it up on his site, but it
> seems that only one of his pieces, the various Etudes, uses scanned
> synthesis (still cool and useful though), I'm looking forward  to his
> response.
> I wish I could attend your classes Richard, I'm sure they are very
> interesting.
>
> PD: Sorry about all the it's on my original mail, damn auto-correct, it
> hurts my eyes and I can't fix it
>
> 2016-03-29 23:59 GMT+02:00 joachim heintz :
>>
>> hi tarmo -
>>
>> this should be added to the csoundqt examples!  (we already have the
>> circularstring-128 in the source materials of the floss manual examples, so
>> should be possible to link to there.)
>>
>> i got some messages like this:
>> unknown opcode ;
>> illegal RT scoreline:
>> ;       ;        ;        ;        ;amp dbFS       ;init       ;irate
>> ;massed       ;centering       ;scanning trajectory       ;freq
>>
>> but this is probably not very relevant.
>>
>> cheers -
>>         joachim
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/03/16 22:23, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what could be useful for you -  I did quite a lot of experimentation with
>>> various combinations of parameters and compiled a number of "presets" to
>>> pull
>>> out from scanned synthesis. I attach the file here.
>>>
>>> If you use CsoundQt, open Live event sheets and you can play around with
>>> the
>>> presest and different parameters.
>>>
>>> I like scanned synthesis in the sence that the sound has it own life and
>>> it
>>> just develops. The sound tends to be quite sharp (lots of harmonics), so
>>> it
>>> can be very good material for various filters.
>>>
>>> Definitely go on and let hear, what you will find!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> tarmo
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 29 March 2016 21:51:48 you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While researching physical modeling (concretely the mass-spring model) I
>>>> happened to come across scanned synthesis, it seems a really interesting
>>>> synthesis method that for some reason is underdeveloped and forgotten (I
>>>> think I already read most of the papers and posts about it on the
>>>> internet
>>>> ... ).
>>>>
>>>> To me one of the things that makes it appealing is the fact that it can
>>>> generate organically changing timbres (for example if you re-excite the
>>>> model while vibrating it generates a different sound) and control those
>>>> in
>>>> a dynamic way (It seems to me that you could develop some playing
>>>> techniques to change timbre only by exciting the model in particular
>>>> ways,
>>>> like vibrating it really fast in some pattern or something like that) in
>>>> a
>>>> way that resembles real instruments but the timbre doesn't necessarily
>>>> imitate those.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a reason it's underdeveloped? , maybe it doesn't live up to
>>>> it's
>>>> expectations?, it's hard to predict and control? it's authors seemed
>>>> very
>>>> enthusiastic about it.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways I'm going to give it a try and play with it but please tell me
>>>> your
>>>> experiences and opinions about it!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Csound mailing list
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>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
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>>>>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>>>
>>>
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Thanks Dr. B for the kind words!  I'm now curious to once again spend
some time with scanned synthesis. :)

Gerard: I think the piece that may be of interest is "On the
Sensations of Tone":

http://kunstmusik.com/2004/10/18/on-the-sensations-of-tone/



On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:33 AM, Gerard Rodríguez
 wrote:
> Thanks for sharing Tarmo, it will be very useful.
> Thanks for mentioning Steven Yi's music, I looked it up on his site, but it
> seems that only one of his pieces, the various Etudes, uses scanned
> synthesis (still cool and useful though), I'm looking forward  to his
> response.
> I wish I could attend your classes Richard, I'm sure they are very
> interesting.
>
> PD: Sorry about all the it's on my original mail, damn auto-correct, it
> hurts my eyes and I can't fix it
>
> 2016-03-29 23:59 GMT+02:00 joachim heintz :
>>
>> hi tarmo -
>>
>> this should be added to the csoundqt examples!  (we already have the
>> circularstring-128 in the source materials of the floss manual examples, so
>> should be possible to link to there.)
>>
>> i got some messages like this:
>> unknown opcode ;
>> illegal RT scoreline:
>> ;       ;        ;        ;        ;amp dbFS       ;init       ;irate
>> ;massed       ;centering       ;scanning trajectory       ;freq
>>
>> but this is probably not very relevant.
>>
>> cheers -
>>         joachim
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/03/16 22:23, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what could be useful for you -  I did quite a lot of experimentation with
>>> various combinations of parameters and compiled a number of "presets" to
>>> pull
>>> out from scanned synthesis. I attach the file here.
>>>
>>> If you use CsoundQt, open Live event sheets and you can play around with
>>> the
>>> presest and different parameters.
>>>
>>> I like scanned synthesis in the sence that the sound has it own life and
>>> it
>>> just develops. The sound tends to be quite sharp (lots of harmonics), so
>>> it
>>> can be very good material for various filters.
>>>
>>> Definitely go on and let hear, what you will find!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> tarmo
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 29 March 2016 21:51:48 you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While researching physical modeling (concretely the mass-spring model) I
>>>> happened to come across scanned synthesis, it seems a really interesting
>>>> synthesis method that for some reason is underdeveloped and forgotten (I
>>>> think I already read most of the papers and posts about it on the
>>>> internet
>>>> ... ).
>>>>
>>>> To me one of the things that makes it appealing is the fact that it can
>>>> generate organically changing timbres (for example if you re-excite the
>>>> model while vibrating it generates a different sound) and control those
>>>> in
>>>> a dynamic way (It seems to me that you could develop some playing
>>>> techniques to change timbre only by exciting the model in particular
>>>> ways,
>>>> like vibrating it really fast in some pattern or something like that) in
>>>> a
>>>> way that resembles real instruments but the timbre doesn't necessarily
>>>> imitate those.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a reason it's underdeveloped? , maybe it doesn't live up to
>>>> it's
>>>> expectations?, it's hard to predict and control? it's authors seemed
>>>> very
>>>> enthusiastic about it.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways I'm going to give it a try and play with it but please tell me
>>>> your
>>>> experiences and opinions about it!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
>>>
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>>
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