I have been working on a couple demo programs on a phone or tablet
using Mike's csound with HTML5 and I have a couple of problems.

1:  Both csd files take sound in from the microphone, modify it and
output.  One works beautifully, the other is a disaster!
  The broken one is basically Victor's autotuner with some
interaction, but all I hear it electronic clicks (file attached). If I
output the microphone input it is just the same and the slider
controls of the amplitudes do nothing.  The only difference I can see
is in the autotuner the input and output happen in the same cycle,
where the working program stores the input in a table first.
  I should add that both programs work on my laptop, apart from a
feedback problem and a button not working exactly the same.

Any suggestions?

2:  It would be so nice to change the labels on the sliders/buttons to
reflect the usage -- can that be done?

==John ffitch

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Don't know about the table for audio, but suspect things aren't all
happening in the same kperiod which is necessary.

As for labels, consider using an HTML GUI. There are examples in GIT
you can re-use.

Best,
Mike

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:30 PM, jpff  wrote:
>
> I have been working on a couple demo programs on a phone or tablet
> using Mike's csound with HTML5 and I have a couple of problems.
>
> 1:  Both csd files take sound in from the microphone, modify it and
> output.  One works beautifully, the other is a disaster!
>   The broken one is basically Victor's autotuner with some
> interaction, but all I hear it electronic clicks (file attached). If I
> output the microphone input it is just the same and the slider
> controls of the amplitudes do nothing.  The only difference I can see
> is in the autotuner the input and output happen in the same cycle,
> where the working program stores the input in a table first.
>   I should add that both programs work on my laptop, apart from a
> feedback problem and a button not working exactly the same.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 2:  It would be so nice to change the labels on the sliders/buttons to
> reflect the usage -- can that be done?
>
> ==John ffitch
>
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I looked at the examples but they made zero sense.  Seemed to require 
knowledge I just do not have, like javascript and bits of html not related 
to layout.  Shame there is not a simple way to change labels, but I can 
possibly accept that.  I do not think I could learn javascript in less 
than a week.

The substantial problem is that reading from the microphone does not work 
on android but does not linux.  I have replaced the input by a simple 
oscilator and that sort of works now, so it relates to the micrphone 
somehow.
==John

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Victor knows more about the audio driver, I think.,

Best,
Mike

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:16 PM, jpff  wrote:
> I looked at the examples but they made zero sense.  Seemed to require
> knowledge I just do not have, like javascript and bits of html not related
> to layout.  Shame there is not a simple way to change labels, but I can
> possibly accept that.  I do not think I could learn javascript in less than
> a week.
>
> The substantial problem is that reading from the microphone does not work on
> android but does not linux.  I have replaced the input by a simple oscilator
> and that sort of works now, so it relates to the micrphone somehow.
> ==John
>
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John, could you post the problematic CSD?

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> Victor knows more about the audio driver, I think.,
>
> Best,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:16 PM, jpff  wrote:
>> I looked at the examples but they made zero sense.  Seemed to require
>> knowledge I just do not have, like javascript and bits of html not related
>> to layout.  Shame there is not a simple way to change labels, but I can
>> possibly accept that.  I do not think I could learn javascript in less than
>> a week.
>>
>> The substantial problem is that reading from the microphone does not work on
>> android but does not linux.  I have replaced the input by a simple oscilator
>> and that sort of works now, so it relates to the micrphone somehow.
>> ==John
>>
>>
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Did you try a simple in - out instrument? 

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 11 Mar 2016, at 21:16, jpff  wrote:
> 
> I looked at the examples but they made zero sense.  Seemed to require knowledge I just do not have, like javascript and bits of html not related to layout.  Shame there is not a simple way to change labels, but I can possibly accept that.  I do not think I could learn javascript in less than a week.
> 
> The substantial problem is that reading from the microphone does not work on android but does not linux.  I have replaced the input by a simple oscilator and that sort of works now, so it relates to the micrphone somehow.
> ==John
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Hi John,

have you considered using a Cabbage solution? Cabbage for Android is in early 
phase but works well. Creating widgets in Cabbage does not need much 
expertise, but frankly, John, I am dead certain that with your experience in 
programming, you would grasp sufficient info how to manipulate necessary html5 
elements in an hour or less.

If it is of any help, I attach a very simple csd that used two html5 buttons 
that trigger one csound instrument that sends OSC messages. Using Csound 
channels is almost as easy, I don't have an example now but I am sure someone 
can provide one.

What concerns audio input, unfortunately I have no deeper experience with 
android. Once I used microphone input for kind of tuning app within a native 
android app using Csound API, then there was no problem. For any case I attach 
that csd as well.

The header looked


-odac -iadc -d  -b1024  -B 2048



sr = 44100 ; 
nchnls = 2
0dbfs = 1
ksmps = 128

And for sound input I used just

ain inch 1

But that was done with an ealier version of Csound, I don't know it there is 
diference


Best!

tarmo



On Friday 11 March 2016 21:16:06 you wrote:
> I looked at the examples but they made zero sense.  Seemed to require
> knowledge I just do not have, like javascript and bits of html not related
> to layout.  Shame there is not a simple way to change labels, but I can
> possibly accept that.  I do not think I could learn javascript in less
> than a week.
> 
> The substantial problem is that reading from the microphone does not work
> on android but does not linux.  I have replaced the input by a simple
> oscilator and that sort of works now, so it relates to the micrphone
> somehow.
> ==John
> 
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I took a qyick look at your examples; I think you have an inflated view of 
my ability to handle anything visual or GUI like.  Lots of words that mean 
next to zero for me.  OK only 30mins so far!

Not sure about moving to Cabbage, as I had little sucess in understanding 
it last time I tried and I never understood the videos.  Is Android 
Cabbage available?  I suppose I could  try.
==John

On Sat, 12 Mar 2016, Tarmo Johannes wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> have you considered using a Cabbage solution? Cabbage for Android is in early
> phase but works well. Creating widgets in Cabbage does not need much
> expertise, but frankly, John, I am dead certain that with your experience in
> programming, you would grasp sufficient info how to manipulate necessary html5
> elements in an hour or less.
>
> If it is of any help, I attach a very simple csd that used two html5 buttons
> that trigger one csound instrument that sends OSC messages. Using Csound
> channels is almost as easy, I don't have an example now but I am sure someone
> can provide one.
>
> What concerns audio input, unfortunately I have no deeper experience with
> android. Once I used microphone input for kind of tuning app within a native
> android app using Csound API, then there was no problem. For any case I attach
> that csd as well.
>
> The header looked
>
> 
> -odac -iadc -d  -b1024  -B 2048
> 
> 
>
> sr = 44100 ;
> nchnls = 2
> 0dbfs = 1
> ksmps = 128
>
> And for sound input I used just
>
> ain inch 1
>
> But that was done with an ealier version of Csound, I don't know it there is
> diference
>
>
> Best!
>
> tarmo
>
>
>
> On Friday 11 March 2016 21:16:06 you wrote:
>> I looked at the examples but they made zero sense.  Seemed to require
>> knowledge I just do not have, like javascript and bits of html not related
>> to layout.  Shame there is not a simple way to change labels, but I can
>> possibly accept that.  I do not think I could learn javascript in less
>> than a week.
>>
>> The substantial problem is that reading from the microphone does not work
>> on android but does not linux.  I have replaced the input by a simple
>> oscilator and that sort of works now, so it relates to the micrphone
>> somehow.
>> ==John
>>
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