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Re: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems? (fwd)

Date2016-01-27 11:59
Fromjpff
SubjectRe: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems? (fwd)
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From: Hans and Laurel Mikelson 
To: csound users' discussions 
Subject: Re: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems?

I tried it on Csound 4.23 and it seems to work fine with manual example.

Hans Mikelson

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Hans Mikelson  wrote:
>
> I think it was stable at one time.  I haven't tried it lately.
>
> Hans Mikelson
>
>
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>
>> Probably.
>> ========================
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>
>>> On 1 Oct 2015, at 10:20, Kevin Welsh  wrote:
>>>
>>> I figured that might be part of it, but it's odd to me that the
>>> opcode's default mode (0/lpf) seems so much more unstable than when
>>> run in hpf mode, where I can't seem to make it bomb out with any
>>> semi-reasonable inputs.
>>>
>>> If that is the case and the opcode is working as expected, should the
>>> manual give a warning about it's instability?  And should the example
>>> be altered to behave a little better?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:48 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I think this filter is (by nature) unstable, and should be approached with care.
>>>> ========================
>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>>>> Maynooth University,
>>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Oct 2015, at 09:40, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm that the manual example of rezzy blows up at the end of the
>>>>> first two events. running on Linux with 6.06
>>>>> ==John
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Kevin Welsh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been having trouble with rezzy, particularly in LPF mode.
>>>>>> Lowering the frequency to a certain point in my instrument tends to
>>>>>> lead to the output "exploding", with the point varying a bit based on
>>>>>> the resonance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I decided to take a look at the manual example figuring I'm using it
>>>>>> wrong, but the manual example seem to explode too creating infinite
>>>>>> samples out of range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a problem with the opcode, or is the issue with the example?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was tested with Csound 6.04.
>>>>>>
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Date2016-02-23 21:04
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems? (fwd)
the manual example blew the "ear" of the entire Csound class at Berklee yesterday.
it would be cool to fix it.

Rick

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On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:59 AM, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:35:30 -0600
From: Hans and Laurel Mikelson <hljmm@charter.net>
To: csound users' discussions <csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems?

I tried it on Csound 4.23 and it seems to work fine with manual example.

Hans Mikelson

On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Hans Mikelson <hljmm@charter.net> wrote:

I think it was stable at one time.  I haven't tried it lately.

Hans Mikelson


On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

Probably.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 1 Oct 2015, at 10:20, Kevin Welsh <tgrey1@gmail.com> wrote:

I figured that might be part of it, but it's odd to me that the
opcode's default mode (0/lpf) seems so much more unstable than when
run in hpf mode, where I can't seem to make it bomb out with any
semi-reasonable inputs.

If that is the case and the opcode is working as expected, should the
manual give a warning about it's instability?  And should the example
be altered to behave a little better?

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:48 AM, Victor Lazzarini
<Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I think this filter is (by nature) unstable, and should be approached with care.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 1 Oct 2015, at 09:40, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:

I can confirm that the manual example of rezzy blows up at the end of the
first two events. running on Linux with 6.06
==John

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Kevin Welsh wrote:

I've been having trouble with rezzy, particularly in LPF mode.
Lowering the frequency to a certain point in my instrument tends to
lead to the output "exploding", with the point varying a bit based on
the resonance.

I decided to take a look at the manual example figuring I'm using it
wrong, but the manual example seem to explode too creating infinite
samples out of range.

Is there a problem with the opcode, or is the issue with the example?

This was tested with Csound 6.04.

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Date2016-02-23 21:22
Fromjpff
SubjectRe: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems? (fwd)
Code fixed a long time back
==John

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Date2016-02-23 21:30
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems? (fwd)

John has fixed it, no blow ups any more in develop branch, especially, if to add a balance opcode after rezzy.
Tarmo

23.02.2016 23:04 kirjutas kuupäeval "Dr. Richard Boulanger" <rboulanger@berklee.edu>:
the manual example blew the "ear" of the entire Csound class at Berklee yesterday.
it would be cool to fix it.

Rick

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street, FB-75
Boston, MA 02215-3693
Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor
617-747-2384 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)
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https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58 (facebook)
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Director of Csounds.com - http://csounds.com
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Author & Editor: The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:59 AM, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:35:30 -0600
From: Hans and Laurel Mikelson <hljmm@charter.net>
To: csound users' discussions <csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Old-Csnd] [Csnd] rezzy example problems?

I tried it on Csound 4.23 and it seems to work fine with manual example.

Hans Mikelson

On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Hans Mikelson <hljmm@charter.net> wrote:

I think it was stable at one time.  I haven't tried it lately.

Hans Mikelson


On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

Probably.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 1 Oct 2015, at 10:20, Kevin Welsh <tgrey1@gmail.com> wrote:

I figured that might be part of it, but it's odd to me that the
opcode's default mode (0/lpf) seems so much more unstable than when
run in hpf mode, where I can't seem to make it bomb out with any
semi-reasonable inputs.

If that is the case and the opcode is working as expected, should the
manual give a warning about it's instability?  And should the example
be altered to behave a little better?

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:48 AM, Victor Lazzarini
<Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I think this filter is (by nature) unstable, and should be approached with care.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 1 Oct 2015, at 09:40, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:

I can confirm that the manual example of rezzy blows up at the end of the
first two events. running on Linux with 6.06
==John

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015, Kevin Welsh wrote:

I've been having trouble with rezzy, particularly in LPF mode.
Lowering the frequency to a certain point in my instrument tends to
lead to the output "exploding", with the point varying a bit based on
the resonance.

I decided to take a look at the manual example figuring I'm using it
wrong, but the manual example seem to explode too creating infinite
samples out of range.

Is there a problem with the opcode, or is the issue with the example?

This was tested with Csound 6.04.

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