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Date2016-01-09 02:16
FromGuillermo Senna
Subjecttranseg and transegr
Attachmentstranseg_r.csd  
Hi,

I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried transegr. I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.

Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr should actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the result is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.

Thanks.
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Date2016-01-09 10:31
FromPeter Burgess
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
that transegr is stepping for me too.

I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.

I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
a general "seg" source or something?

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried transegr.
> I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>
> Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr should
> actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the result
> is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>
> Thanks.
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Date2016-01-09 11:17
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr

Hi,
Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
aenv interp kenv
poscil aenv, etc?

Tarmo

09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess" <pete.soundtechnician@gmail.com>:
Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
that transegr is stepping for me too.

I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.

I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
a general "seg" source or something?

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried transegr.
> I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>
> Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr should
> actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the result
> is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>
> Thanks.
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Date2016-01-09 11:22
FromPeter Burgess
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
my depth here.

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
 wrote:
> Hi,
> Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> aenv interp kenv
> poscil aenv, etc?
>
> Tarmo
>
> 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> :
>>
>> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
>> that transegr is stepping for me too.
>>
>> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
>> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
>> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
>>
>> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
>> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
>> a general "seg" source or something?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
>> > transegr.
>> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>> >
>> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
>> > should
>> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
>> > result
>> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>> > can
>> > be posted here
>>
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Date2016-01-09 11:34
FromIain McCurdy
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...

On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to  work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.

Iain

> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
> From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>
> Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
> should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
> all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
> my depth here.
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
> <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> > aenv interp kenv
> > poscil aenv, etc?
> >
> > Tarmo
> >
> > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> > <pete.soundtechnician@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
> >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
> >>
> >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
> >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
> >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
> >>
> >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
> >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
> >> a general "seg" source or something?
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
> >> > transegr.
> >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
> >> >
> >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
> >> > should
> >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
> >> > result
> >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> >> > can
> >> > be posted here
> >>
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Date2016-01-09 12:02
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
help us fix it.

There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
initialisation stage between them.

========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 

> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
> 
> There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
> 
> On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to  work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
> 
> Iain
> 
> > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
> > From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
> > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > 
> > Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
> > should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
> > all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
> > my depth here.
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> > > aenv interp kenv
> > > poscil aenv, etc?
> > >
> > > Tarmo
> > >
> > > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> > > :
> > >>
> > >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
> > >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
> > >>
> > >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
> > >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
> > >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
> > >>
> > >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
> > >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
> > >> a general "seg" source or something?
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
> > >> > transegr.
> > >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
> > >> >
> > >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
> > >> > should
> > >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
> > >> > result
> > >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks.
> > >> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> > >> > can
> > >> > be posted here
> > >>
> > >> Csound mailing list
> > >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> > >> Send bugs reports to
> > >>  https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> > >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> > >
> > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can
> > > be posted here
> > 
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Date2016-01-09 12:19
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
I have found two suspicious lines, which I will investigate later when I can test it.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 

> On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:02, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
> Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
> help us fix it.
> 
> There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
> mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
> initialisation stage between them.
> 
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
> 
>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>> 
>> There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
>> 
>> On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to  work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
>> 
>> Iain
>> 
>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
>>> From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>>> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>>> 
>>> Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
>>> should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
>>> all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
>>> my depth here.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
>>>> aenv interp kenv
>>>> poscil aenv, etc?
>>>> 
>>>> Tarmo
>>>> 
>>>> 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
>>>>> that transegr is stepping for me too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
>>>>> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
>>>>> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
>>>>> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
>>>>> a general "seg" source or something?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
>>>>>> transegr.
>>>>>> I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
>>>>>> result
>>>>>> is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be posted here
>>>>> 
>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> 
>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
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>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can
>>>> be posted here
>>> 
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> 
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Date2016-01-09 12:39
FromIain McCurdy
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.

Iain.

> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
> From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>
> Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
> help us fix it.
>
> There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
> mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
> initialisation stage between them.
>
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
> > On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
> >
> > On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
> >
> > Iain
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
> > > From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
> > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > >
> > > Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
> > > should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
> > > all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
> > > my depth here.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
> > > <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> > > > aenv interp kenv
> > > > poscil aenv, etc?
> > > >
> > > > Tarmo
> > > >
> > > > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> > > > <pete.soundtechnician@gmail.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
> > > >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
> > > >>
> > > >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
> > > >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
> > > >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
> > > >>
> > > >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
> > > >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
> > > >> a general "seg" source or something?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Hi,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
> > > >> > transegr.
> > > >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
> > > >> > should
> > > >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
> > > >> > result
> > > >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks.
> > > >> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > > >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > > >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> > > >> > can
> > > >> > be posted here
> > > >>
> > > >> Csound mailing list
> > > >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > > >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> > > >> Send bugs reports to
> > > >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> > > >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> > > >
> > > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > > > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can
> > > > be posted here
> > >
> > > Csound mailing list
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Date2016-01-09 13:18
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 

> On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
> 
> In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
> 
> Iain.
> 
> > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
> > From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > 
> > Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
> > help us fix it.
> > 
> > There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
> > mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
> > initialisation stage between them.
> > 
> > ========================
> > Dr Victor Lazzarini
> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> > Maynooth University,
> > Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> > Tel: 00 353 7086936
> > Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
> > 
> > > On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
> > > 
> > > There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
> > > 
> > > On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
> > > 
> > > Iain
> > > 
> > > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
> > > > From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > > > 
> > > > Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
> > > > should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
> > > > all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
> > > > my depth here.
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> > > > > aenv interp kenv
> > > > > poscil aenv, etc?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tarmo
> > > > >
> > > > > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> > > > > :
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
> > > > >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
> > > > >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
> > > > >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
> > > > >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
> > > > >> a general "seg" source or something?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
> > > > >> > transegr.
> > > > >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
> > > > >> > should
> > > > >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
> > > > >> > result
> > > > >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks.
> > > > >> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > > > >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > > > >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> > > > >> > can
> > > > >> > be posted here
> > > > >>
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> > > > >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> > > > >> Send bugs reports to
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> > > > >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> > > > >
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> > > > > be posted here
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Date2016-01-09 13:20
FromPeter Burgess
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
when you fix things, does that mean they'll be available in the next
version, or does that mean you've fixed them in the currently
downloadable source?

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>>
>> In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
>>
>> Iain.
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
>> > From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
>> > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>> > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>> >
>> > Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
>> > help us fix it.
>> >
>> > There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
>> > mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
>> > initialisation stage between them.
>> >
>> > ========================
>> > Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>> > Maynooth University,
>> > Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> > Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> > Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>> >
>> > > On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
>> > >
>> > > On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
>> > >
>> > > Iain
>> > >
>> > > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
>> > > > From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>> > > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>> > > >
>> > > > Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
>> > > > should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
>> > > > all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
>> > > > my depth here.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
>> > > >  wrote:
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
>> > > > > aenv interp kenv
>> > > > > poscil aenv, etc?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tarmo
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
>> > > > > :
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
>> > > > >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
>> > > > >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
>> > > > >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
>> > > > >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
>> > > > >> a general "seg" source or something?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
>> > > > >> > Hi,
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
>> > > > >> > transegr.
>> > > > >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
>> > > > >> > should
>> > > > >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
>> > > > >> > result
>> > > > >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Thanks.
>> > > > >> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > > > >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>> > > > >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>> > > > >> > can
>> > > > >> > be posted here
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Csound mailing list
>> > > > >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > > > >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> > > > >> Send bugs reports to
>> > > > >>  https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> > > > >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
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>> > > > > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can
>> > > > > be posted here
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>> >
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Date2016-01-09 13:37
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
Fixed in git develop branch, always. This gets released in the next version and pushed to master branch them. If you build from git, you can use it immediately.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 9 Jan 2016, at 13:20, Peter Burgess  wrote:
> 
> when you fix things, does that mean they'll be available in the next
> version, or does that mean you've fixed them in the currently
> downloadable source?
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
>> ========================
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>> 
>>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
>>> 
>>> Iain.
>>> 
>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
>>>> From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>>>> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>>>> 
>>>> Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
>>>> help us fix it.
>>>> 
>>>> There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
>>>> mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
>>>> initialisation stage between them.
>>>> 
>>>> ========================
>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>>>> Maynooth University,
>>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Iain
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
>>>>>> From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>>>>>> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
>>>>>> should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
>>>>>> all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
>>>>>> my depth here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
>>>>>>> aenv interp kenv
>>>>>>> poscil aenv, etc?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tarmo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
>>>>>>>> that transegr is stepping for me too.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
>>>>>>>> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
>>>>>>>> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
>>>>>>>> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
>>>>>>>> a general "seg" source or something?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
>>>>>>>>> transegr.
>>>>>>>>> I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
>>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>>> is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> be posted here
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can
>>>>>>> be posted here
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Csound mailing list
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Date2016-01-09 13:44
FromPeter Burgess
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
Cool, cheers!

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> Fixed in git develop branch, always. This gets released in the next version and pushed to master branch them. If you build from git, you can use it immediately.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 13:20, Peter Burgess  wrote:
>>
>> when you fix things, does that mean they'll be available in the next
>> version, or does that mean you've fixed them in the currently
>> downloadable source?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>>> transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
>>> ========================
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>>> Maynooth University,
>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>>
>>>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
>>>>
>>>> Iain.
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
>>>>> From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>>>>> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
>>>>> help us fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
>>>>> mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
>>>>> initialisation stage between them.
>>>>>
>>>>> ========================
>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>>>>> Maynooth University,
>>>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
>>>>>>> From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>>>>>>> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
>>>>>>> should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
>>>>>>> all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
>>>>>>> my depth here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
>>>>>>>> aenv interp kenv
>>>>>>>> poscil aenv, etc?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tarmo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
>>>>>>>>> that transegr is stepping for me too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
>>>>>>>>> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
>>>>>>>>> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
>>>>>>>>> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
>>>>>>>>> a general "seg" source or something?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
>>>>>>>>>> transegr.
>>>>>>>>>> I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
>>>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>>>> is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> be posted here
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>
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Date2016-01-09 16:36
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
cossegr also fixed now, both a + k versions.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 

> On 9 Jan 2016, at 13:18, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
> transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
> 
>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>> 
>> In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
>> 
>> Iain.
>> 
>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
>>> From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>>> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>>> 
>>> Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
>>> help us fix it.
>>> 
>>> There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
>>> mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
>>> initialisation stage between them.
>>> 
>>> ========================
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
>>> Maynooth University,
>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
>>>> 
>>>> On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
>>>> 
>>>> Iain
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
>>>>> From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
>>>>> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
>>>>> should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
>>>>> all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
>>>>> my depth here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
>>>>>> aenv interp kenv
>>>>>> poscil aenv, etc?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tarmo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
>>>>>>> that transegr is stepping for me too.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
>>>>>>> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
>>>>>>> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
>>>>>>> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
>>>>>>> a general "seg" source or something?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
>>>>>>>> transegr.
>>>>>>>> I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>> is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
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>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> be posted here
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>>>>>> be posted here
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Date2016-01-09 16:38
FromIain McCurdy
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
Test example below. For me on 6.07 on Windows cossegr doesn't work correctly. A linsegr with similar values does hold the penultimate value during note sustain as expected. Adding more stages to the envelope doesn't fix it either. Again on cosseg, is it maybe time to switch off some of the stuff that it prints to the terminal? It's a bit overwhelming if many of them are being created.

<CsoundSynthesizer>

<CsOptions>
-odac -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
</CsOptions>

<CsInstruments>

instr 1
;aenv linsegr 0.3,1,0
aenv cossegr 0.3,1,0
a1 poscil aenv*0dbfs,1000
out a1
endin

</CsInstruments>
</CsoundSynthesizer>

> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:18:02 +0000
> From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>
> transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
> > On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
> >
> > Iain.
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
> > > From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > >
> > > Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
> > > help us fix it.
> > >
> > > There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
> > > mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
> > > initialisation stage between them.
> > >
> > > ========================
> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini
> > > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> > > Maynooth University,
> > > Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> > > Tel: 00 353 7086936
> > > Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> > >
> > > > On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
> > > >
> > > > On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
> > > >
> > > > Iain
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
> > > > > From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > > > >
> > > > > Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
> > > > > should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
> > > > > all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
> > > > > my depth here.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
> > > > > <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> > > > > > aenv interp kenv
> > > > > > poscil aenv, etc?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tarmo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> > > > > > <pete.soundtechnician@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
> > > > > >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
> > > > > >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
> > > > > >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
> > > > > >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
> > > > > >> a general "seg" source or something?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > Hi,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
> > > > > >> > transegr.
> > > > > >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
> > > > > >> > should
> > > > > >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
> > > > > >> > result
> > > > > >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Thanks.
> > > > > >> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > > > > >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > > > > >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> > > > > >> > can
> > > > > >> > be posted here
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Csound mailing list
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> > > > > >> Send bugs reports to
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > be posted here
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Date2016-01-09 17:03
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
All done now.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 9 Jan 2016, at 16:38, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

Test example below. For me on 6.07 on Windows cossegr doesn't work correctly. A linsegr with similar values does hold the penultimate value during note sustain as expected. Adding more stages to the envelope doesn't fix it either. Again on cosseg, is it maybe time to switch off some of the stuff that it prints to the terminal? It's a bit overwhelming if many of them are being created.

<CsoundSynthesizer>

<CsOptions>
-odac -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
</CsOptions>

<CsInstruments>

instr 1
;aenv linsegr 0.3,1,0
aenv cossegr 0.3,1,0
a1 poscil aenv*0dbfs,1000
out a1
endin

</CsInstruments>
</CsoundSynthesizer>

> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:18:02 +0000
> From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>
> transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
> > On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
> >
> > Iain.
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
> > > From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > >
> > > Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
> > > help us fix it.
> > >
> > > There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
> > > mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
> > > initialisation stage between them.
> > >
> > > ========================
> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini
> > > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> > > Maynooth University,
> > > Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> > > Tel: 00 353 7086936
> > > Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> > >
> > > > On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
> > > >
> > > > On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
> > > >
> > > > Iain
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
> > > > > From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > > > >
> > > > > Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
> > > > > should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
> > > > > all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
> > > > > my depth here.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
> > > > > <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> > > > > > aenv interp kenv
> > > > > > poscil aenv, etc?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tarmo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> > > > > > <pete.soundtechnician@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
> > > > > >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
> > > > > >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
> > > > > >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
> > > > > >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
> > > > > >> a general "seg" source or something?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > Hi,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
> > > > > >> > transegr.
> > > > > >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
> > > > > >> > should
> > > > > >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
> > > > > >> > result
> > > > > >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Thanks.
> > > > > >> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > > > > >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > > > > >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> > > > > >> > can
> > > > > >> > be posted here
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >> Send bugs reports to
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Date2016-01-11 23:37
FromGuillermo Senna
SubjectRe: transeg and transegr
Thanks Victor! I cloned the develop branch and now it works as expected. Do you know when 6.07 will be released?

On 09/01/16 14:03, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
All done now.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 9 Jan 2016, at 16:38, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

Test example below. For me on 6.07 on Windows cossegr doesn't work correctly. A linsegr with similar values does hold the penultimate value during note sustain as expected. Adding more stages to the envelope doesn't fix it either. Again on cosseg, is it maybe time to switch off some of the stuff that it prints to the terminal? It's a bit overwhelming if many of them are being created.

<CsoundSynthesizer>

<CsOptions>
-odac -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
</CsOptions>

<CsInstruments>

instr 1
;aenv linsegr 0.3,1,0
aenv cossegr 0.3,1,0
a1 poscil aenv*0dbfs,1000
out a1
endin

</CsInstruments>
</CsoundSynthesizer>

> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:18:02 +0000
> From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
>
> transegr is fixed. Could you post an example for cossegr so I can look at it?
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
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>
> > On 9 Jan 2016, at 12:39, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > In both cases similar problems are exhibited with both the k- and a-rate versions of the opcodes.
> >
> > Iain.
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +0000
> > > From: Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE
> > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > >
> > > Could you determine if these problems are with a-rate, k-rate or both, in each case? That will
> > > help us fix it.
> > >
> > > There were changes to the a-rate versions of these opcodes, to accommodate the sample accurate
> > > mode. It could be the case that these changes broke the k-rate opcodes, since they shared the
> > > initialisation stage between them.
> > >
> > > ========================
> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini
> > > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> > > Maynooth University,
> > > Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> > > Tel: 00 353 7086936
> > > Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> > >
> > > > On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:34, Iain McCurdy <i_mccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There does seem to be a problem with the r version of the opcode. It's not an a- of k-rate issue. The release time is being interpretted correctly but the curve, it seems, is not being calculated correctly. I'll file a ticket if no one else does...
> > > >
> > > > On a related note, cossegr doesn't seem to work correctly either. The penultimate value is not held during normal note sustain as it ought to, it simply carries on through to the final value while a note is begin held. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any difference between cosseg and cossegr.
> > > >
> > > > Iain
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:22:08 +0000
> > > > > From: pete.soundtechnician@GMAIL .COM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] transeg and transegr
> > > > > To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE
> > > > >
> > > > > Using an a-rate does solve the problem for me, but why? The krate
> > > > > should be quick enough to give no audible jumps, and the segments are
> > > > > all long enough too. I donno, I'm not an expert, I'm probably out of
> > > > > my depth here.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Tarmo Johannes
> > > > > <tarmo.johannes@otsakool.edu.ee> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Would convering kenv to a rate solve the problem?
> > > > > > aenv interp kenv
> > > > > > poscil aenv, etc?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tarmo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 09.01.2016 12:33 kirjutas kuupäeval "Peter Burgess"
> > > > > > <pete.soundtechnician@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hmm, I've had a quick test, and I can't tell you anything more than
> > > > > >> that transegr is stepping for me too.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I can't see any issues with your .csd. The only thing that occurs to
> > > > > >> me is that the release portion alters how the envelope works slightly,
> > > > > >> but I wouldn't of thought that should cause the stepping.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I also can't find the source for these two opcodes to have a shifty
> > > > > >> through, anyone know which source they're from? Are they bundled into
> > > > > >> a general "seg" source or something?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Guillermo Senna <gsenna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > Hi,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I was trying to do something with MIDI. So for an envelope I tried
> > > > > >> > transegr.
> > > > > >> > I am hearing steps in anything but the release segment.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Could you test the attached .csd and tell me if that is how transegr
> > > > > >> > should
> > > > > >> > actually work? It is the same envelope in both instr 1 and 2, but the
> > > > > >> > result
> > > > > >> > is completely different. There are no curves with transegr.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Thanks.
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