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Date2015-11-28 13:54
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectCsound, Linux, Jack and midi

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 

Date2015-11-28 14:03
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 14:04
FromHlöðver Sigurðsson
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 14:14
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
My CsOptions usually look like this if I'm running Csound outside of any frontend.

-+rtaudio=jack -odac -+rtmidi=alsa -Ma

If you use a front-end like CsoundQT or Cabbage, they will let you select the MIDI drivers yourself.


On 28 November 2015 at 14:04, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 14:42
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...

Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:

I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 15:04
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

Hi everyone and thanks for the help! :)  I'll try doing the -+rtmidi=alsa option and see how it behaves, then I'll post here what I find out.

A part of this whole issue is also finding out if I can connect a midi sequencer (ie. NonSequencer, QmidiArp) to the Csound instrument and control it that way.  (I know that I can make a score in Csound, but is there a way to modify the score in RT while it's playing?)

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:14:26 +0000, Rory Walsh wrote:

My CsOptions usually look like this if I'm running Csound outside of any frontend.

-+rtaudio=jack -odac -+rtmidi=alsa -Ma

If you use a front-end like CsoundQT or Cabbage, they will let you select the MIDI drivers yourself.

On 28 November 2015 at 14:04, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 15:11
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
you should definitely be able to do this with the alsa or alsaseq rtmidi options.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 15:04, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone and thanks for the help! :)  I'll try doing the -+rtmidi=alsa option and see how it behaves, then I'll post here what I find out.

A part of this whole issue is also finding out if I can connect a midi sequencer (ie. NonSequencer, QmidiArp) to the Csound instrument and control it that way.  (I know that I can make a score in Csound, but is there a way to modify the score in RT while it's playing?)

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:14:26 +0000, Rory Walsh wrote:

My CsOptions usually look like this if I'm running Csound outside of any frontend.

-+rtaudio=jack -odac -+rtmidi=alsa -Ma

If you use a front-end like CsoundQT or Cabbage, they will let you select the MIDI drivers yourself.

On 28 November 2015 at 14:04, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 16:07
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...

Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:

I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 16:36
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
Jack MIDI works with the jacko opcodes.

I haven't used them for a while, but I did use them; I sent MIDI to
the Aeolus organ and received audio back.

Regards,
Mike

-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa
> midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound
> (perhaps it should?)
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound
> (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is
> probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask
> you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also
> Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:
>
> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to
> connect the midi signals.
>
> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the
> terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to
> mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using
> regular plugins, I can't.
>
> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing
> at a time.
>
> Any help much appreciated! :)
>
>
>
> brian
>
>
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> be posted here
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Date2015-11-28 17:18
FromHlöðver Sigurðsson
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
Speaking of Aeolus organ, do you know Gogins if there is a way to start the organ from within Csound?

2015-11-28 17:36 GMT+01:00 Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com>:
Jack MIDI works with the jacko opcodes.

I haven't used them for a while, but I did use them; I sent MIDI to
the Aeolus organ and received audio back.

Regards,
Mike

-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Victor Lazzarini
<Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa
> midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound
> (perhaps it should?)
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound
> (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is
> probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask
> you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also
> Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:
>
> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to
> connect the midi signals.
>
> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the
> terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to
> mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using
> regular plugins, I can't.
>
> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing
> at a time.
>
> Any help much appreciated! :)
>
>
>
> brian
>
>
> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can
> be posted here
>
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Date2015-11-28 18:23
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
AttachmentsStudy.4.lua  
I am attaching the piece to this email. It is written in Lua. I did
not start Aelous from within Csound, but I did start Aeolus from
within the piece. This was a delicate setup but it did end up working.
Note that using Lua and my own Score objects etc. made a lot of things
easier. The trickiest part was finding out the names of the Jack ports
so that I could connect them up with the Jacko opcodes, and finding
the best parameters for actually running the Jack daemon.

All this would be possible from within Csound, probably. The final
line of Lua code tells the Score object to run Csound. The silencio
library is available at https://github.com/gogins/silencio.

Regards,
Mike

-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Hlöðver Sigurðsson  wrote:
> Speaking of Aeolus organ, do you know Gogins if there is a way to start the
> organ from within Csound?
>
> 2015-11-28 17:36 GMT+01:00 Michael Gogins :
>>
>> Jack MIDI works with the jacko opcodes.
>>
>> I haven't used them for a while, but I did use them; I sent MIDI to
>> the Aeolus organ and received audio back.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>> > I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux
>> > alsa
>> > midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound
>> > (perhaps it should?)
>> >
>> > Victor Lazzarini
>> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> > Maynooth University
>> > Ireland
>> >
>> > On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and
>> > Csound
>> > (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is
>> > probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to
>> > ask
>> > you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also
>> > Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:
>> >
>> > In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to
>> > connect the midi signals.
>> >
>> > With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the
>> > terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to
>> > mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am
>> > using
>> > regular plugins, I can't.
>> >
>> > From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one
>> > thing
>> > at a time.
>> >
>> > Any help much appreciated! :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > brian
>> >
>> >
>> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>> > can
>> > be posted here
>> >
>> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
>> > can
>> > be posted here
>>
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>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
>
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Date2015-11-28 18:56
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

Hi Hlöðver,

I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:

Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 18:59
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi Hlöðver,

I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:

Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 19:02
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders


28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:

I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 19:06
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi Hlöðver,

I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:

Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 19:31
FromHlöðver Sigurðsson
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
Thanks Gogins I may use this code shamelessly :)

but why do you really need a2jmidid, I remember trying that, it just gave me more headaces than solutions. You can even turn off midi in jack and just bypass it with alsa midi routing.

2015-11-28 20:06 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi Hlöðver,

I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:

Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?


2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 20:00
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
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Date2015-11-28 20:18
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian


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From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

> brian


 
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Date2015-11-28 20:26
FromForrest Curo
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

You need it to be "sudo modprobe etc".

aconnectgui is pretty handy for linux midi connections.

>When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

> brian


 
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Date2015-11-28 20:58
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
I tried the Jacko example which crashed on me, but I haven't tried the Jacko opcodes in any other capacity. 
However, keeping ksmps at 128, which seems to be one of the few that would work, is sometimes a bit limiting, I would think. Perhaps implementing "native" Jack midi would be slightly more versatile? Or is that limitation still there?

Regards,
Anders



> 28 nov. 2015 kl. 17:36 skrev Michael Gogins :
> 
> Jack MIDI works with the jacko opcodes.
> 
> I haven't used them for a while, but I did use them; I sent MIDI to
> the Aeolus organ and received audio back.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa
>> midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound
>> (perhaps it should?)
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>> On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound
>> (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is
>> probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask
>> you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also
>> Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:
>> 
>> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to
>> connect the midi signals.
>> 
>> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the
>> terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to
>> mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using
>> regular plugins, I can't.
>> 
>> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing
>> at a time.
>> 
>> Any help much appreciated! :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> brian
>> 
>> 
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Date2015-11-28 21:33
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

Thanks Forrest! :)  I used the sudo modprobe command, and it created 5 raw midi connections.  With the Jack Midi driver set to "none," I can see the new midi connections in the Alsa midi window.  (The aconnectgui was pretty useless unfortunately. I couldn't cut the connections that I had made!)

So, definitely some progress, although Qmidiarp wasn't communicating for some reason, so I still have to find out how to connect a sequencer..

I'll update after more testing..

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:26:28 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You need it to be "sudo modprobe etc".

aconnectgui is pretty handy for linux midi connections.

>When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

> brian


 
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Date2015-11-28 21:47
FromForrest Curo
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
You click on the icon that's supposed to look like scissors; then you can cut connections.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 1:33 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Thanks Forrest! :)  I used the sudo modprobe command, and it created 5 raw midi connections.  With the Jack Midi driver set to "none," I can see the new midi connections in the Alsa midi window.  (The aconnectgui was pretty useless unfortunately. I couldn't cut the connections that I had made!)

So, definitely some progress, although Qmidiarp wasn't communicating for some reason, so I still have to find out how to connect a sequencer..

I'll update after more testing..

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:26:28 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You need it to be "sudo modprobe etc".

aconnectgui is pretty handy for linux midi connections.

>When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

> brian


 
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Date2015-11-28 21:48
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

I found some info about Jack Midi from the Non-Sequencer Manual, with the following:

Since Jack MIDI is new and not all programs support it, many find themselves confused. This section attempts to explain Jack MIDI ports. The ALSA sequencer interface has long been the standard MIDI routing subsystem on Linux. But many (all) of the programs we use for synthesis these days use Jack for their audio IO. It makes more sense for those MIDI related programs utilizing the Jack Transport for synchronization to also use Jack ports for MIDI delivery. Therefore, ALSA MIDI is quickly becoming obsolete. Jack MIDI ports are not related to ALSA MIDI ports in any way. Jack MIDI ports are just like Jack audio ports, except that the data being transmitted in each buffer are raw, timestamped MIDI events instead of floating point audio samples. Jack MIDI is sample-accurate. This means that a MIDI Note On event can occur concurrently with a sound, and the two will never drift apart as often happens to some extent with ALSA. In essence, Jack MIDI is a way of expressing a direct temporal correlation between audio and MIDI data. Note: Older versions of QJackCtl and other connection managers do not know about Jack MIDI ports. Please make sure you're using an up-to-date version. For example, to connect Non to ZynAddSubFX (the CVS version supports Jack MIDI), type the following into the shell: $ jack_connect Non:midi_out-1 ZynAddSubFX:midi_in Also, be sure that Zyn's outputs are connected to system:playback_* so that you can hear the sounds it produces. It is possible to use Jack MIDI clients and ALSA MIDI clients together via the bridge built into jackd. For this to work you must append the -X seq option to the alsa driver section of the jackd command line. Like so: $ jackd -d alsa -X seq The way such bridged ports are named varies between Jack versions, but they should be fairly obvious. When used in this way, many of the advantages of Jack MIDI are lost, so it is recommended that you find a Jack MIDI capable synth for best results.

 

I tried using the command line (part in bold above) but I got this error:

*** rtjack: buffer size (-B) is too small

I'm not sure I'm on the right track with all this yet though..

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:33:20 +0100, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Thanks Forrest! :)  I used the sudo modprobe command, and it created 5 raw midi connections.  With the Jack Midi driver set to "none," I can see the new midi connections in the Alsa midi window.  (The aconnectgui was pretty useless unfortunately. I couldn't cut the connections that I had made!)

So, definitely some progress, although Qmidiarp wasn't communicating for some reason, so I still have to find out how to connect a sequencer..

I'll update after more testing..

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:26:28 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You need it to be "sudo modprobe etc".

aconnectgui is pretty handy for linux midi connections.

>When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

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Date2015-11-28 21:49
Frombrian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi

Yes, I did that, but the connections didn't get cut: left click, middle click, right click, nothing..

 

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:47:16 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You click on the icon that's supposed to look like scissors; then you can cut connections.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 1:33 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Thanks Forrest! :)  I used the sudo modprobe command, and it created 5 raw midi connections.  With the Jack Midi driver set to "none," I can see the new midi connections in the Alsa midi window.  (The aconnectgui was pretty useless unfortunately. I couldn't cut the connections that I had made!)

So, definitely some progress, although Qmidiarp wasn't communicating for some reason, so I still have to find out how to connect a sequencer..

I'll update after more testing..

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:26:28 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You need it to be "sudo modprobe etc".

aconnectgui is pretty handy for linux midi connections.

>When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

> brian


 
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Date2015-11-28 22:01
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
I created a ticket just in case. Feel free to close it if consensus is that it is not worthwhile.  

Regards,
Anders 



28 nov. 2015 kl. 17:07 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:

a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...

Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:

I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian

 
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Date2015-11-28 22:03
FromForrest Curo
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
If your click on the icon has registered, then left click on the line itself rather than either port...

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 1:49 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Yes, I did that, but the connections didn't get cut: left click, middle click, right click, nothing..

 

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:47:16 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You click on the icon that's supposed to look like scissors; then you can cut connections.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 1:33 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Thanks Forrest! :)  I used the sudo modprobe command, and it created 5 raw midi connections.  With the Jack Midi driver set to "none," I can see the new midi connections in the Alsa midi window.  (The aconnectgui was pretty useless unfortunately. I couldn't cut the connections that I had made!)

So, definitely some progress, although Qmidiarp wasn't communicating for some reason, so I still have to find out how to connect a sequencer..

I'll update after more testing..

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:26:28 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You need it to be "sudo modprobe etc".

aconnectgui is pretty handy for linux midi connections.

>When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

> brian


 
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Date2015-11-29 08:59
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
You can try this: connect your sequencer to one of the
rawmidi virtual lines, then try running Csound with  
-M a . Csound will listen to all inputs. I don't think it
will appear in the aconnectgui, because it is not
an input device, the virtual midi is.

-M hw:n,m will select the exact virmidi device,
if you know it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 21:33, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Thanks Forrest! :)  I used the sudo modprobe command, and it created 5 raw midi connections.  With the Jack Midi driver set to "none," I can see the new midi connections in the Alsa midi window.  (The aconnectgui was pretty useless unfortunately. I couldn't cut the connections that I had made!)

So, definitely some progress, although Qmidiarp wasn't communicating for some reason, so I still have to find out how to connect a sequencer..

I'll update after more testing..

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 12:26:28 -0800, Forrest Curo wrote:

You need it to be "sudo modprobe etc".

aconnectgui is pretty handy for linux midi connections.

>When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted


On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, <brian@linuxsynths.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll use alsa for midi. For the -M option, I have -Ma  just to be able to use this one synth for now. But in the Jack connections windows, Csound doesn't appear.

Regarding the software midi device, I'm not sure what you mean. Is there a specific app for linux that does this?

When I ran the modprobe command I got this:

brian@brian-kxstudio:~/MonoPolySynthIIPolyphony$ modprobe snd-virmidi
FATAL: Error inserting snd_virmidi (/lib/modules/3.8.0-32-lowlatency/kernel/sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.ko): Operation not permitted

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:00:53 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


jack is not a midi device, use alsa
You will need to select the midi input with -M n
where n is the specific midi input number,
if use 'a' it will listen to all midi devices.
You will need a software midi device, which you
always set up by loading the snd-virmidi device
modprobe snd-virmidi
. Then your
sequencer writes to it and Csound reads from it.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:02, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

I tried setting -+rtmidi=alsa and I can open the instrument (either with or without this option, I experience no problems), but I still do not see it appear in the QJackCtl window, and I still cannot use a2jmidid.  I basically don't know where to "see" the Csound instrument connection.

I tried setting -+rtmidi=jack and I got the error: "error: -+rtmidi='jack': unknown module"

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 16:07:47 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


a quick look indicates it might not be too difficult. Create a midi input port and read from it, no major configs required.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 14:42, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:


I for one would very much welcome native Jack midi support in csound. I know there are the Jacko opcodes, but doing -+rtmidi=jack would just be that much more simple...
Regards,
Anders



28 nov. 2015 kl. 15:03 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@NUIM.IE>:


I am not sure what aj2midi is, but Csound has two midi options on Linux alsa midi (raw,alsaseq) and portmidi. Jack midi has not been added to Csound (perhaps it should?)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 28 Nov 2015, at 13:54, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:

Hi everyone,

I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

Any help much appreciated! :)

 

brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound, Linux, Jack and midi
To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE

 

 

> Hi Victor,

I tried both alsa raw and alsa seq, both with and without the a2jmidid script. The only way that I can connect midi to the instrument is without a2jmidid and without alsa raw or alsa seq.

 

brian

 

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:59:32 +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:


you need to set it to alsa or alsaseq. 
>
> Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 18:56, brian@LINUXSYNTHS.COM wrote:
>

> Hi Hlöðver,

> I have the midi driver set to "none" at the moment. I'm not sure if this is the parameter to change. What does it do?

>  

> brian

>  

> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:04:33 +0100, Hlöðver Sigurðsson wrote:


Im not really well experienced with JACK and Cabbage, but in CsoundQT, I would defenitely use RT MIDI module, there you can choose from drivers; alsaraw, alsaseq (I usually use this one) and virtal. Maybe jack too but as I write this I have midi turned off on my jack. In the Output Device (-Q) you should see all available apps that accept midi-in?
>
>
> 2015-11-28 14:54 GMT+01:00 <brian@linuxsynths.com>:

> Hi everyone,

> I started a thread at linuxmusicians.com about midi connections and Csound (see here) but as I wasn't getting any responses, and as this mailing is probably the best place to ask these kinds of things anyway, I wanted to ask you all (those who are using linux obviously) about Csound (and also Cabbage), Jack and midi connections in general:

> In general, to use synth plugins I use Jack for audio, and a2jmidid to connect the midi signals.

> With Csound, I cannot use a2jmidid, as any instrument I run (I use the terminal) gives a "midi channel busy" error if I do.  This would seem to mean that, if I want to use Csound instruments at the same time I am using regular plugins, I can't.

> From this scenario, a few more questions will come pertinent, but one thing at a time. 

> Any help much appreciated! :)

>  

> brian


 
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