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Date2015-08-23 22:33
FromRobert or Gretchen Foose
Subjectmidi questions
Hi,
Having decided to take the plunge into realtime csound, I am asking for 
opinions and advice.  First, in regard to midi hardware I'd like 
opinions as to issues and/or advantages to the various keyboard 
controllers out there.  As a piano player (NOT a pianist) I'm looking 
for ones that are touch sensitive.  I'd also like to use some B3 
emulations, so sliders are an advantage. Beyond that, I'm open..well, 
less expensive is nice too!
Also, since I already have a few MIDI capable 'portable keyboards' like 
you see for sale at big box stores around Christmas, I'm interested in 
software that can act as patch managers for them. That is, I'd like to 
be able to create instantly switchable patches to turn on/off the 
various settings that can be made on them.  I recently downloaded 
'Cantabile', but I don't know if it can do that or not.  It seems 
designed to work the other way, sending control codes from the hardware 
to software synths.  So..if anyone has any helpful ideas, I'd welcome 
them.  Thanks.
Bob Foose

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Date2015-08-23 23:49
FromHlöðver Sigurðsson
SubjectRe: midi questions
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I think by far most midi controllers have velocity output parameters (measureing how fast you press the key). Csound can read velocity values and you can use it to control apmlitude and any sound parameter you like to. Many good effects can be achieved by using adsr opcodes with the velocity values. You can also assign any slider to a value with midi controllers and pitchbend. Just keep in mind that any midi controller you would buy, csound can be programmed to use any slider/knob/channelchange/bankchange as long as it's sending midi messages with midi protocols.

2015-08-23 21:33 GMT+00:00 Robert or Gretchen Foose <arfo@comcast.net>:
Hi,
Having decided to take the plunge into realtime csound, I am asking for
opinions and advice.  First, in regard to midi hardware I'd like
opinions as to issues and/or advantages to the various keyboard
controllers out there.  As a piano player (NOT a pianist) I'm looking
for ones that are touch sensitive.  I'd also like to use some B3
emulations, so sliders are an advantage. Beyond that, I'm open..well,
less expensive is nice too!
Also, since I already have a few MIDI capable 'portable keyboards' like
you see for sale at big box stores around Christmas, I'm interested in
software that can act as patch managers for them. That is, I'd like to
be able to create instantly switchable patches to turn on/off the
various settings that can be made on them.  I recently downloaded
'Cantabile', but I don't know if it can do that or not.  It seems
designed to work the other way, sending control codes from the hardware
to software synths.  So..if anyone has any helpful ideas, I'd welcome
them.  Thanks.
Bob Foose

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Date2015-08-24 00:37
FromForrest Curo
SubjectRe: midi questions
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(If I've got this right): Unless you've got multiple pairs of hands, extra midi hardware shouldn't add much. One little processor working its butt off can generate more simultaneous sounds... so mainly you'd want external keyboards for sending notes the software would render into sounds....


On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
I think by far most midi controllers have velocity output parameters (measureing how fast you press the key). Csound can read velocity values and you can use it to control apmlitude and any sound parameter you like to. Many good effects can be achieved by using adsr opcodes with the velocity values. You can also assign any slider to a value with midi controllers and pitchbend. Just keep in mind that any midi controller you would buy, csound can be programmed to use any slider/knob/channelchange/bankchange as long as it's sending midi messages with midi protocols.

2015-08-23 21:33 GMT+00:00 Robert or Gretchen Foose <arfo@comcast.net>:
Hi,
Having decided to take the plunge into realtime csound, I am asking for
opinions and advice.  First, in regard to midi hardware I'd like
opinions as to issues and/or advantages to the various keyboard
controllers out there.  As a piano player (NOT a pianist) I'm looking
for ones that are touch sensitive.  I'd also like to use some B3
emulations, so sliders are an advantage. Beyond that, I'm open..well,
less expensive is nice too!
Also, since I already have a few MIDI capable 'portable keyboards' like
you see for sale at big box stores around Christmas, I'm interested in
software that can act as patch managers for them. That is, I'd like to
be able to create instantly switchable patches to turn on/off the
various settings that can be made on them.  I recently downloaded
'Cantabile', but I don't know if it can do that or not.  It seems
designed to work the other way, sending control codes from the hardware
to software synths.  So..if anyone has any helpful ideas, I'd welcome
them.  Thanks.
Bob Foose

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Date2015-08-24 09:23
From"F. Silvain"
SubjectRe: midi questions
2015-08-23 21:33 GMT+00:00 Robert or Gretchen Foose :

> Hi,
> Having decided to take the plunge into realtime csound, I am asking for
> opinions and advice.  First, in regard to midi hardware I'd like
> opinions as to issues and/or advantages to the various keyboard
> controllers out there.  As a piano player (NOT a pianist) I'm looking
> for ones that are touch sensitive.
Companies like Fatar make good 88 notes hammer action keyboards. I've once played an M-Audio keystation 88-es, which was rather pleasant. and I do think, that they aren't that expensive. It doesn't have a lot of controllers though.
Other than that, I've heard, that Beringer and Akai released a couple of controller keyboards this year, which did sport sliders and all the rest. If you have pleasant keyboards, you can also get a simplke slider box. The Beringer BCF2000 is very neat for the price.
...

> Also, since I already have a few MIDI capable 'portable keyboards' like
> you see for sale at big box stores around Christmas, I'm interested in
> software that can act as patch managers for them.
You didn't mention your operating system? I know, that there's a software called Sound Tower and believe it has a sysex librarian part to it. Otherwise that's a type of software you're looking for: Librarian or SysEx Librarian.
...

Ta-ta
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Date2015-08-24 13:03
FromIain McCurdy
SubjectRe: midi questions
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If you want to have more options with keyboard activity Csound can interpret creatively you could look out for a device that also sends note-off velocity and aftertouch. Best of all would be one that sends polyphonic aftertouch (as opposed to channel aftertouch) but these are as rare as hen's teeth and probably expensive.
Iain

> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:33:11 -0500
> From: arfo@comcast.net
> To: csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Csnd] midi questions
>
> Hi,
> Having decided to take the plunge into realtime csound, I am asking for
> opinions and advice. First, in regard to midi hardware I'd like
> opinions as to issues and/or advantages to the various keyboard
> controllers out there. As a piano player (NOT a pianist) I'm looking
> for ones that are touch sensitive. I'd also like to use some B3
> emulations, so sliders are an advantage. Beyond that, I'm open..well,
> less expensive is nice too!
> Also, since I already have a few MIDI capable 'portable keyboards' like
> you see for sale at big box stores around Christmas, I'm interested in
> software that can act as patch managers for them. That is, I'd like to
> be able to create instantly switchable patches to turn on/off the
> various settings that can be made on them. I recently downloaded
> 'Cantabile', but I don't know if it can do that or not. It seems
> designed to work the other way, sending control codes from the hardware
> to software synths. So..if anyone has any helpful ideas, I'd welcome
> them. Thanks.
> Bob Foose
>
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Date2015-08-26 01:14
Fromandy fillebrown
SubjectRe: midi questions
I'm really happy with my M-Audio ProKeys Sono (61 keys). I picked it
up for around $200 about 5 years ago and it's been great. For sliders
and knobs I recently added an Akai MIDIMix controller, which is also
pretty good. All the
Csound/Cabbage code I've put together for them (completely
undocumented but maybe useful) is at
https://github.com/andy-fillebrown/csound-instruments, and I'm
currently working on the branch "synth-1".


On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Iain McCurdy  wrote:
> If you want to have more options with keyboard activity Csound can interpret
> creatively you could look out for a device that also sends note-off velocity
> and aftertouch. Best of all would be one that sends polyphonic aftertouch
> (as opposed to channel aftertouch) but these are as rare as hen's teeth and
> probably expensive.
> Iain
>
>> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:33:11 -0500
>> From: arfo@comcast.net
>> To: csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [Csnd] midi questions
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Having decided to take the plunge into realtime csound, I am asking for
>> opinions and advice. First, in regard to midi hardware I'd like
>> opinions as to issues and/or advantages to the various keyboard
>> controllers out there. As a piano player (NOT a pianist) I'm looking
>> for ones that are touch sensitive. I'd also like to use some B3
>> emulations, so sliders are an advantage. Beyond that, I'm open..well,
>> less expensive is nice too!
>> Also, since I already have a few MIDI capable 'portable keyboards' like
>> you see for sale at big box stores around Christmas, I'm interested in
>> software that can act as patch managers for them. That is, I'd like to
>> be able to create instantly switchable patches to turn on/off the
>> various settings that can be made on them. I recently downloaded
>> 'Cantabile', but I don't know if it can do that or not. It seems
>> designed to work the other way, sending control codes from the hardware
>> to software synths. So..if anyone has any helpful ideas, I'd welcome
>> them. Thanks.
>> Bob Foose
>>
>>
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