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Date2015-07-15 08:21
FromRaoul MEGELAS
Subjectsimple test
Hello all,

please, can you tell me if this test.csd is correct for you?
it exit without pressing any key here.

   ENV: 
Darwin BigMac 14.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.3.0: Mon Mar 23 11:59:05 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2782.20.48~5/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
   in terminal mode with or without screen software.
   CSOUND 6.05

Can you point me to a link decumenting the output of csound -v option?

thanks for your time.

Raoul
rmgls@orange.fr




-odac



sr = 44100
ksmps = 32
nchnls = 1
0dbfs = 1

instr 1
   kkey sensekey

if kkey == 0x51 then
printf " exiting %x ", 1, kkey
exitnow
endif

endin



i 1 0 3600
e




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Date2015-07-15 10:03
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: simple test
exitnow is i-time and it does not get affected by the conditionals. You need k-time code:

 instr 1
  kkey sensekey

if kkey == 0x51 then
printf " exiting %x ", 1, kkey
event "i",99,0,1
endif
endin

instr 99
exitnow
endin


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> On 15 Jul 2015, at 08:21, Raoul MEGELAS  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> please, can you tell me if this test.csd is correct for you?
> it exit without pressing any key here.
> 
>   ENV: 
> Darwin BigMac 14.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.3.0: Mon Mar 23 11:59:05 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2782.20.48~5/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
>   in terminal mode with or without screen software.
>   CSOUND 6.05
> 
> Can you point me to a link decumenting the output of csound -v option?
> 
> thanks for your time.
> 
> Raoul
> rmgls@orange.fr
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -odac
> 
> 
> 
> sr = 44100
> ksmps = 32
> nchnls = 1
> 0dbfs = 1
> 
> instr 1
>   kkey sensekey
> 
> if kkey == 0x51 then
> printf " exiting %x ", 1, kkey
> exitnow
> endif
> 
> endin
> 
> 
> 
> i 1 0 3600
> e
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Date2015-07-15 12:21
Fromrmgls
SubjectRe: simple test
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Hello Victor,

Thanks for your clarification.

i understand better now.

It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code, 
is it possible to add it?

Again thanks

Raoul


On 15 Jul 2015, at 11:03, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

exitnow is i-time and it does not get affected by the conditionals. You need k-time code:

instr 1
 kkey sensekey

if kkey == 0x51 then
printf " exiting %x ", 1, kkey
event "i",99,0,1
endif
endin

instr 99
exitnow
endin


========================
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Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
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Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
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Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

On 15 Jul 2015, at 08:21, Raoul MEGELAS <rmgls@orange.fr> wrote:

Hello all,

please, can you tell me if this test.csd is correct for you?
it exit without pressing any key here.

 ENV:
Darwin BigMac 14.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.3.0: Mon Mar 23 11:59:05 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2782.20.48~5/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
 in terminal mode with or without screen software.
 CSOUND 6.05

Can you point me to a link decumenting the output of csound -v option?

thanks for your time.

Raoul
rmgls@orange.fr


<CsoundSynthetizer>
<CsOptions>
-odac
</CsOptions>
<CsInstruments>

sr = 44100
ksmps = 32
nchnls = 1
0dbfs = 1

instr 1
 kkey sensekey

if kkey == 0x51 then
printf " exiting %x ", 1, kkey
exitnow
endif

endin
</CsInstruments>

<CsScore>
i 1 0 3600
e
</CsScore>
</CsoundSynthesizer>


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Date2015-07-15 12:32
Fromjpff
SubjectRe: simple test
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The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? 
I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?

==John

On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:

> Hello Victor,
> Thanks for your clarification.
> 
> i understand better now.
> 
> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code, 
> is it possible to add it?
> 
> Again thanks
> 
> Raoul
> rmgls@orange.fr
> 
>

Date2015-07-15 12:43
Fromrmgls
SubjectRe: simple test
hi,

perhaps the example and comment from Victor!
wuokd be  handy for newbies like me.


> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:32, jpff  wrote:
> 
> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
> 
> ==John
> 
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
> 
>> Hello Victor,
>> Thanks for your clarification.
>> i understand better now.
>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code, 
>> is it possible to add it?
>> Again thanks
>> Raoul
>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-15 12:43
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: simple test
I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
> 
> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
> 
> ==John
> 
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Victor,
>> Thanks for your clarification.
>> i understand better now.
>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code, 
>> is it possible to add it?
>> Again thanks
>> Raoul
>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-15 12:55
Fromjpff
SubjectRe: simple test
The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit 
Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.

Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
==John ff
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>
>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>
>> ==John
>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Victor,
>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>> i understand better now.
>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>> is it possible to add it?
>>> Again thanks
>>> Raoul
>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-15 13:06
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: simple test
As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker. 

Regards,
Anders



> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
> 
> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit 
> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
> 
> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
> ==John ff
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> 
>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>> 
>>> ==John
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>> i understand better now.
>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>> Again thanks
>>>> Raoul
>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-15 15:42
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: simple test
A UDO perhaps?

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
> 
> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker. 
> 
> Regards,
> Anders
> 
> 
> 
>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>> 
>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit 
>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>> 
>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>> ==John ff
>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>> 
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>> 
>>>> ==John
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>> Raoul
>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-15 20:43
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: simple test
I think a good programming practice is not to mix i-time lines with perf code. This should
finish all the trouble people have with conditionals etc.

instr N


;==========



endin

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> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:43, rmgls  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> perhaps the example and comment from Victor!
> wuokd be  handy for newbies like me.
> 
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:32, jpff  wrote:
>> 
>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>> 
>> ==John
>> 
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Victor,
>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>> i understand better now.
>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code, 
>>> is it possible to add it?
>>> Again thanks
>>> Raoul
>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-16 14:10
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: simple test
That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it. 

Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?

Regards,
Anders



> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
> 
> A UDO perhaps?
> 
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>> 
>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>> 
>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit 
>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>> 
>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>> ==John ff
>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>> 
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ==John
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-16 14:15
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: simple test
I think it was Joachim that put together that github UDO datebase. :)
But Steven did maintain and update the old UDO database on
csounds.com. Would be nice to merge tham all into the one and host
them on the main csound github page.

On 16 July 2015 at 14:10, Anders Genell  wrote:
> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>
> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>
> Regards,
> Anders
>
>
>
>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>
>> A UDO perhaps?
>>
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>>
>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>
>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>
>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>
>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>> ==John ff
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-16 14:30
FromRichard
SubjectRe: simple test
Why not add a database opcode to csound and put these UDO's (and other 
stuff) in a database accessible via the web?
Now we have #include, that can include a local file, but it would not be 
so hard to get it from a database...

Richard


On 16/07/15 15:15, Rory Walsh wrote:
> I think it was Joachim that put together that github UDO datebase. :)
> But Steven did maintain and update the old UDO database on
> csounds.com. Would be nice to merge tham all into the one and host
> them on the main csound github page.
>
> On 16 July 2015 at 14:10, Anders Genell  wrote:
>> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>>
>> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>>
>>
>>
>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>>
>>> A UDO perhaps?
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-16 14:50
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: simple test
Oh, my bad! Sorry Joachim!
Well, I certainly agree that all of them really should be collected in one place. 

Regards,
Anders



> 16 jul 2015 kl. 15:15 skrev Rory Walsh :
> 
> I think it was Joachim that put together that github UDO datebase. :)
> But Steven did maintain and update the old UDO database on
> csounds.com. Would be nice to merge tham all into the one and host
> them on the main csound github page.
> 
>> On 16 July 2015 at 14:10, Anders Genell  wrote:
>> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>> 
>> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>> 
>>> A UDO perhaps?
>>> 
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anders
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>> 
>>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-16 14:54
FromAnders Genell
SubjectUDO database accessible within csound -> WAS Re: simple test
That sounds like a good idea. 

I'll just break this out into a separate thread here to keep things somewhat tidy. 

Regards,
Anders



> 16 jul 2015 kl. 15:30 skrev Richard :
> 
> Why not add a database opcode to csound and put these UDO's (and other 
> stuff) in a database accessible via the web?
> Now we have #include, that can include a local file, but it would not be 
> so hard to get it from a database...
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On 16/07/15 15:15, Rory Walsh wrote:
>> I think it was Joachim that put together that github UDO datebase. :)
>> But Steven did maintain and update the old UDO database on
>> csounds.com. Would be nice to merge tham all into the one and host
>> them on the main csound github page.
>> 
>>> On 16 July 2015 at 14:10, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>>> 
>>> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Anders
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>>> 
>>>> A UDO perhaps?
>>>> 
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Anders
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>>>> Raoul
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Date2015-07-16 15:06
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: simple test
As Rory mentioned, the git repos for UDOs is by Joachim. The older UDO
database is not functioning anymore, though it had some nice
properties to it.

I had built a csound package manager a while back, called cspm[1].  It
was a python script for downloading packages that could contain UDO's
and other resource files. It didn't have much of uptake though, and I
moved on from it.

One thing that I thought about recently from Joachim's repo is that we
could have build tool like system that uses git to checkout
repositories. A csound project might then have an extra project file
that would be used as a build recipe.  In it, dependencies could be
listed. For example, for Joachim's repo, one might use something like
["csudo/csudo"] to specify the project uses the csudo/csudo
repository.  From there, the build tool could have commands and
something like:

csmake build

might do a dependency check and download the csudo/csudo repository
from github into a dependencies folder before building.

Dependencies could be versioned, i.e.:

[["csudo/csudo", "1.3"]]    => would correspond to git tag 1.3
[["csudo/csudo"]]    => would correspond to git latest from master branch
[["http://mysite.com/somepackage.zip", "resources"]]    => if http://
found, download from there and copy into or expand into "resources"
folder


The build tool could function like other common build tools and have
functions like:

csmake new MyProject   => create a new project called MyProject
csmake new MIDIInstrument MyProject => create a new project using a
MIDIInstrument template
csmake build => render to disk
csmake run => render in realtime
csmake package => package as a zip
csmake deps => download dependencies
csmake ubercsd => download all dependencies, then inline all #includes
and uuencode all binary dependencies into a single CSD; would be
useful to create then embed into an application

One thing about a build tool like this is that for dependencies, using
github or convention like the http:// mentioned above makes it such
that any user can create their own repository of useful UDOs or other
resource files and have it work with the tool automatically. Having it
decentralized empowers users, IMO.  We could also have a single master
curated repo for UDO's like csudo/csudo that would require community
organization.

There would be more work to make this a bit smoother, such as having
namespaces in Csound itself, but this seems like a step forward to me.

steven

[1] - https://bitbucket.org/kunstmusik/csound-package-manager

p.s. - an imaginary project file might like look the following (using JSON)

{ project: "Title of My Work - Part 5",
  author: "Steven Yi",
  album: "My Works",
  year: 2015,
  main: "work_part5.csd",
  dependencies: [["csudo/csudo", "v1.3.0"]],
  disk_options: "-Wdo syi_work_part5.wav --sample-rate 44100
--control-rate 44100",
  realtime_options: "-do dac",
  csound_version: "6.05"
}



On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Anders Genell  wrote:
> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>
> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>
> Regards,
> Anders
>
>
>
>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>
>> A UDO perhaps?
>>
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>>
>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>
>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>
>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>
>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>> ==John ff
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-16 16:09
Fromjpff
SubjectRe: UDO database accessible within csound -> WAS Re: simple test
Just a small note: the #include mechanism can take a URL if csound os 
cpompiled with the curl option.  Might have a use in including UDOs

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Anders Genell wrote:

> That sounds like a good idea.
>
> I'll just break this out into a separate thread here to keep things somewhat tidy.
>
> Regards,
> Anders
>
>
>
>> 16 jul 2015 kl. 15:30 skrev Richard :
>>
>> Why not add a database opcode to csound and put these UDO's (and other
>> stuff) in a database accessible via the web?
>> Now we have #include, that can include a local file, but it would not be
>> so hard to get it from a database...
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>> On 16/07/15 15:15, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>> I think it was Joachim that put together that github UDO datebase. :)
>>> But Steven did maintain and update the old UDO database on
>>> csounds.com. Would be nice to merge tham all into the one and host
>>> them on the main csound github page.
>>>
>>>> On 16 July 2015 at 14:10, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>
>>>>> A UDO perhaps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Anders
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-07-16 17:03
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: UDO database accessible within csound -> WAS Re: simple test
Oh, fantastic!
That is a very good start!

Regards,
Anders 



> 16 jul 2015 kl. 17:09 skrev jpff :
> 
> Just a small note: the #include mechanism can take a URL if csound os 
> cpompiled with the curl option.  Might have a use in including UDOs
> 
>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Anders Genell wrote:
>> 
>> That sounds like a good idea.
>> 
>> I'll just break this out into a separate thread here to keep things somewhat tidy.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 16 jul 2015 kl. 15:30 skrev Richard :
>>> 
>>> Why not add a database opcode to csound and put these UDO's (and other
>>> stuff) in a database accessible via the web?
>>> Now we have #include, that can include a local file, but it would not be
>>> so hard to get it from a database...
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 16/07/15 15:15, Rory Walsh wrote:
>>>> I think it was Joachim that put together that github UDO datebase. :)
>>>> But Steven did maintain and update the old UDO database on
>>>> csounds.com. Would be nice to merge tham all into the one and host
>>>> them on the main csound github page.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 July 2015 at 14:10, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>>> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Anders
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A UDO perhaps?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Anders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>>>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-08-01 22:57
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: simple test
just as a late side note: of course it's fine with me to host the csudo 
page on the main csound github page.  and everyone is invited to get 
write access to csudo, if this is the more practical way to go.  just 
let me know.

	joachim


Am 16.07.2015 um 16:06 schrieb Steven Yi:
> As Rory mentioned, the git repos for UDOs is by Joachim. The older UDO
> database is not functioning anymore, though it had some nice
> properties to it.
>
> I had built a csound package manager a while back, called cspm[1].  It
> was a python script for downloading packages that could contain UDO's
> and other resource files. It didn't have much of uptake though, and I
> moved on from it.
>
> One thing that I thought about recently from Joachim's repo is that we
> could have build tool like system that uses git to checkout
> repositories. A csound project might then have an extra project file
> that would be used as a build recipe.  In it, dependencies could be
> listed. For example, for Joachim's repo, one might use something like
> ["csudo/csudo"] to specify the project uses the csudo/csudo
> repository.  From there, the build tool could have commands and
> something like:
>
> csmake build
>
> might do a dependency check and download the csudo/csudo repository
> from github into a dependencies folder before building.
>
> Dependencies could be versioned, i.e.:
>
> [["csudo/csudo", "1.3"]]    => would correspond to git tag 1.3
> [["csudo/csudo"]]    => would correspond to git latest from master branch
> [["http://mysite.com/somepackage.zip", "resources"]]    => if http://
> found, download from there and copy into or expand into "resources"
> folder
>
>
> The build tool could function like other common build tools and have
> functions like:
>
> csmake new MyProject   => create a new project called MyProject
> csmake new MIDIInstrument MyProject => create a new project using a
> MIDIInstrument template
> csmake build => render to disk
> csmake run => render in realtime
> csmake package => package as a zip
> csmake deps => download dependencies
> csmake ubercsd => download all dependencies, then inline all #includes
> and uuencode all binary dependencies into a single CSD; would be
> useful to create then embed into an application
>
> One thing about a build tool like this is that for dependencies, using
> github or convention like the http:// mentioned above makes it such
> that any user can create their own repository of useful UDOs or other
> resource files and have it work with the tool automatically. Having it
> decentralized empowers users, IMO.  We could also have a single master
> curated repo for UDO's like csudo/csudo that would require community
> organization.
>
> There would be more work to make this a bit smoother, such as having
> namespaces in Csound itself, but this seems like a step forward to me.
>
> steven
>
> [1] - https://bitbucket.org/kunstmusik/csound-package-manager
>
> p.s. - an imaginary project file might like look the following (using JSON)
>
> { project: "Title of My Work - Part 5",
>    author: "Steven Yi",
>    album: "My Works",
>    year: 2015,
>    main: "work_part5.csd",
>    dependencies: [["csudo/csudo", "v1.3.0"]],
>    disk_options: "-Wdo syi_work_part5.wav --sample-rate 44100
> --control-rate 44100",
>    realtime_options: "-do dac",
>    csound_version: "6.05"
> }
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Anders Genell  wrote:
>> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>>
>> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>>
>>
>>
>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini :
>>>
>>> A UDO perhaps?
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff :
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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Date2015-08-02 09:14
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: simple test
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I think it would best to host is as a branch on the Csound repo like the API examples.

On 2 Aug 2015 00:00, "joachim heintz" <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
just as a late side note: of course it's fine with me to host the csudo
page on the main csound github page.  and everyone is invited to get
write access to csudo, if this is the more practical way to go.  just
let me know.

        joachim


Am 16.07.2015 um 16:06 schrieb Steven Yi:
> As Rory mentioned, the git repos for UDOs is by Joachim. The older UDO
> database is not functioning anymore, though it had some nice
> properties to it.
>
> I had built a csound package manager a while back, called cspm[1].  It
> was a python script for downloading packages that could contain UDO's
> and other resource files. It didn't have much of uptake though, and I
> moved on from it.
>
> One thing that I thought about recently from Joachim's repo is that we
> could have build tool like system that uses git to checkout
> repositories. A csound project might then have an extra project file
> that would be used as a build recipe.  In it, dependencies could be
> listed. For example, for Joachim's repo, one might use something like
> ["csudo/csudo"] to specify the project uses the csudo/csudo
> repository.  From there, the build tool could have commands and
> something like:
>
> csmake build
>
> might do a dependency check and download the csudo/csudo repository
> from github into a dependencies folder before building.
>
> Dependencies could be versioned, i.e.:
>
> [["csudo/csudo", "1.3"]]    => would correspond to git tag 1.3
> [["csudo/csudo"]]    => would correspond to git latest from master branch
> [["http://mysite.com/somepackage.zip", "resources"]]    => if http://
> found, download from there and copy into or expand into "resources"
> folder
>
>
> The build tool could function like other common build tools and have
> functions like:
>
> csmake new MyProject   => create a new project called MyProject
> csmake new MIDIInstrument MyProject => create a new project using a
> MIDIInstrument template
> csmake build => render to disk
> csmake run => render in realtime
> csmake package => package as a zip
> csmake deps => download dependencies
> csmake ubercsd => download all dependencies, then inline all #includes
> and uuencode all binary dependencies into a single CSD; would be
> useful to create then embed into an application
>
> One thing about a build tool like this is that for dependencies, using
> github or convention like the http:// mentioned above makes it such
> that any user can create their own repository of useful UDOs or other
> resource files and have it work with the tool automatically. Having it
> decentralized empowers users, IMO.  We could also have a single master
> curated repo for UDO's like csudo/csudo that would require community
> organization.
>
> There would be more work to make this a bit smoother, such as having
> namespaces in Csound itself, but this seems like a step forward to me.
>
> steven
>
> [1] - https://bitbucket.org/kunstmusik/csound-package-manager
>
> p.s. - an imaginary project file might like look the following (using JSON)
>
> { project: "Title of My Work - Part 5",
>    author: "Steven Yi",
>    album: "My Works",
>    year: 2015,
>    main: "work_part5.csd",
>    dependencies: [["csudo/csudo", "v1.3.0"]],
>    disk_options: "-Wdo syi_work_part5.wav --sample-rate 44100
> --control-rate 44100",
>    realtime_options: "-do dac",
>    csound_version: "6.05"
> }
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That would work nicely - I might give it a go if I find myself in need of it.
>>
>> Speaking of UDOs; it would perhaps be useful to extend Stevens excellent github UDO repository effort with a download functionality within csound? Kind of like octave-forge in octave, which has the 'pkg --forge install ...' feature. Unless that would mean too many extra dependencies?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>>
>>
>>
>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 16:42 skrev Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
>>>
>>> A UDO perhaps?
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 13:06, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an alias for the somewhat more cumbersome 'event "e"' command an exitknow would be handy, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 15 jul 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual  was misleading asit described Performance but nit
>>>>> Initialisation, while exitnow never gets to perform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tat said, do we need a n exitknow or some such?
>>>>> ==John ff
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure what else can be said. This is fundamental in Csound code: init and perf time code run at different times, and should not be mixed like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:32, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The maual says it exits in the initialisation cycle.  What else canit say? I have added some emphasis.  Could add a warning note, but with what text?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, rmgls wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Victor,
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your clarification.
>>>>>>>> i understand better now.
>>>>>>>> It would be informative to read this in the exitnow code,
>>>>>>>> is it possible to add it?
>>>>>>>> Again thanks
>>>>>>>> Raoul
>>>>>>>> rmgls@orange.fr
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