It is not so easy to take the same approach with AUs as with csLADSPA
and Cabbage. The problem is that each AU needs a unique ID that is
written directly into the plugin library's binary data when
compiled(and tied to the AUs plist files). With Cabbage I run a simple
process after the binary has been created that changes the VST plugin
ID. I've tried many different ways of doing the same with AUs but I
can't get it to work. As Ed has shown, it is relatively
straightforward to call Csound from an AU, but you'll either need to
use the same csd file name each time, or provide a drop-down or browse
menu for Csound files once the AU is opened. Neither approach is great
because the number of parameters in an AU is fixed. So all instruments
would have the to have the same number of parameters.

I plan to look at this issue again when I get the chance. But it will
likely be September before I can get around to it.

On 4 July 2015 at 09:20, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> You should try and make it like CsLadspa or Cabbage, where any CSD can be
> used.
>
> Anyway, that's good to hear. Well done.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 23:11, Edward Costello <phasereset@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after I
> successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working in
> Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make it an
> effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there isn’t any
> documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants help
> getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next week
> making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?
> Ed
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>
> I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output. There is
> no audio unit Csound plugin either.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 09:19, Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@libero.it> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in Garageband?
>
> Thanks.
> Gabriel.
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I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after I successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working in Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make it an effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there isn’t any documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants help getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next week making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?

Ed

On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output. There is no audio unit Csound plugin either.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 3 Jul 2015, at 09:19, Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@libero.it> wrote:

Hi all.
I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in Garageband?

Thanks.
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It is not so easy to take the same approach with AUs as with csLADSPA
and Cabbage. The problem is that each AU needs a unique ID that is
written directly into the plugin library's binary data when
compiled(and tied to the AUs plist files). With Cabbage I run a simple
process after the binary has been created that changes the VST plugin
ID. I've tried many different ways of doing the same with AUs but I
can't get it to work. As Ed has shown, it is relatively
straightforward to call Csound from an AU, but you'll either need to
use the same csd file name each time, or provide a drop-down or browse
menu for Csound files once the AU is opened. Neither approach is great
because the number of parameters in an AU is fixed. So all instruments
would have the to have the same number of parameters.

I plan to look at this issue again when I get the chance. But it will
likely be September before I can get around to it.

On 4 July 2015 at 09:20, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> You should try and make it like CsLadspa or Cabbage, where any CSD can be
> used.
>
> Anyway, that's good to hear. Well done.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 23:11, Edward Costello <phasereset@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after I
> successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working in
> Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make it an
> effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there isn’t any
> documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants help
> getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next week
> making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?
> Ed
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>
> I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output. There is
> no audio unit Csound plugin either.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 09:19, Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@libero.it> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in Garageband?
>
> Thanks.
> Gabriel.
>
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Aure,

AU support in AudioKit will be amazing.  Good luck with this new direction - keep us posted!

Dr.B.

PS: Have you started to support AudioKit development for the Apple Watch yet?

Do you show any model projects and code that will run Csound on the Watch?

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On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Aurelius Prochazka <aure@aure.com> wrote:

Couldn't you do something like what AudioKit does where you start off with a bare-bones CSD every time and then dynamically load the instruments as needed into the Csound6 engine?  I've been wanting to provide AU capabilities to AudioKit for a while so the work by Edward and Rory is super interesting.

Aure

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:

It is not so easy to take the same approach with AUs as with csLADSPA
and Cabbage. The problem is that each AU needs a unique ID that is
written directly into the plugin library's binary data when
compiled(and tied to the AUs plist files). With Cabbage I run a simple
process after the binary has been created that changes the VST plugin
ID. I've tried many different ways of doing the same with AUs but I
can't get it to work. As Ed has shown, it is relatively
straightforward to call Csound from an AU, but you'll either need to
use the same csd file name each time, or provide a drop-down or browse
menu for Csound files once the AU is opened. Neither approach is great
because the number of parameters in an AU is fixed. So all instruments
would have the to have the same number of parameters.

I plan to look at this issue again when I get the chance. But it will
likely be September before I can get around to it.

On 4 July 2015 at 09:20, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> You should try and make it like CsLadspa or Cabbage, where any CSD can be
> used.
>
> Anyway, that's good to hear. Well done.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 23:11, Edward Costello <phasereset@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after I
> successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working in
> Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make it an
> effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there isn’t any
> documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants help
> getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next week
> making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?
> Ed
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>
> I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output. There is
> no audio unit Csound plugin either.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 09:19, Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@libero.it> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in Garageband?
>
> Thanks.
> Gabriel.
>
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Great, I’m on holidays this weekend but I’ll work on the AU from Monday and keep you guys posted on my progress,
Cheers
Ed

> On 4 Jul 2015, at 17:40, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>
> Thanks Aure. You've given me an idea. The problem is that each AU has
> a unique ID. AU hosts on OSX won't load two plugins with the same ID.
> If I could dynamically change the ID I would do the same thing I do
> with VSTs. But it's very cumbersome. A solution would be to  load a
> Cabbage AU into a host. Then browse for the Cabbage csd file and
> instantiate. When you save your session the host will save the patch
> settings, including the Csound instruments each Cabbage AU has loaded.
> The next time the session is launched all instances of the Cabbage AU
> will load their last csd file. It adds one extra step on startup, but
> if it gets Csound into a host of Apple hosts then I'd say it's worth a
> shot.
>
> Rory.
>
>
> On 4 July 2015 at 16:24, Aurelius Prochazka <aure@aure.com> wrote:
>> No, as far as I know you can't run Csound on the watch, but because the
>> watch has to be connected to the phone anyway, you can run Csound on the
>> phone and generate audio and stream via Bluetooth, which is what I am doing
>> in this somewhat goofy video:
>>
>> http://audiokit.io/blog/2015/06/13/watch-hackathon/
>>
>> Aure
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>> <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aure,
>>>
>>> AU support in AudioKit will be amazing.  Good luck with this new direction
>>> - keep us posted!
>>>
>>> Dr.B.
>>>
>>> PS: Have you started to support AudioKit development for the Apple Watch
>>> yet?
>>> Do you show any model projects and code that will run Csound on the Watch?
>>>
>>> _____________________________________________
>>>
>>> Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>>
>>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>>>
>>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>>>
>>> Berklee College of Music
>>>
>>> 1140 Boylston Street, FB-75
>>>
>>> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>>>
>>> Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor
>>>
>>> 617-747-2384 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)
>>> ______________________________________________
>>>
>>> rboulanger@berklee.edu (email)
>>> https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58 (facebook)
>>> ______________________________________________
>>>
>>> President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
>>> Director of Csounds.com - http://csounds.com
>>> Author & Editor: The Csound Book -
>>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
>>> Author & Editor: The Audio Programming Book -
>>> http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
>>> ______________________________________________
>>>
>>> about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/about/richardboulanger/
>>> about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
>>> ______________________________________________
>>>
>>> music:
>>> http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Aurelius Prochazka <aure@aure.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't you do something like what AudioKit does where you start off
>>>> with a bare-bones CSD every time and then dynamically load the instruments
>>>> as needed into the Csound6 engine?  I've been wanting to provide AU
>>>> capabilities to AudioKit for a while so the work by Edward and Rory is super
>>>> interesting.
>>>>
>>>> Aure
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not so easy to take the same approach with AUs as with csLADSPA
>>>>> and Cabbage. The problem is that each AU needs a unique ID that is
>>>>> written directly into the plugin library's binary data when
>>>>> compiled(and tied to the AUs plist files). With Cabbage I run a simple
>>>>> process after the binary has been created that changes the VST plugin
>>>>> ID. I've tried many different ways of doing the same with AUs but I
>>>>> can't get it to work. As Ed has shown, it is relatively
>>>>> straightforward to call Csound from an AU, but you'll either need to
>>>>> use the same csd file name each time, or provide a drop-down or browse
>>>>> menu for Csound files once the AU is opened. Neither approach is great
>>>>> because the number of parameters in an AU is fixed. So all instruments
>>>>> would have the to have the same number of parameters.
>>>>>
>>>>> I plan to look at this issue again when I get the chance. But it will
>>>>> likely be September before I can get around to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 July 2015 at 09:20, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You should try and make it like CsLadspa or Cabbage, where any CSD can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, that's good to hear. Well done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 Jul 2015, at 23:11, Edward Costello <phasereset@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make
>>>>>> it an
>>>>>> effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there
>>>>>> isn’t any
>>>>>> documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next
>>>>>> week
>>>>>> making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output.
>>>>>> There is
>>>>>> no audio unit Csound plugin either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in
>>>>>> Garageband?
>>>>>>
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Thanks Aure. You've given me an idea. The problem is that each AU has
a unique ID. AU hosts on OSX won't load two plugins with the same ID.
If I could dynamically change the ID I would do the same thing I do
with VSTs. But it's very cumbersome. A solution would be to  load a
Cabbage AU into a host. Then browse for the Cabbage csd file and
instantiate. When you save your session the host will save the patch
settings, including the Csound instruments each Cabbage AU has loaded.
The next time the session is launched all instances of the Cabbage AU
will load their last csd file. It adds one extra step on startup, but
if it gets Csound into a host of Apple hosts then I'd say it's worth a
shot.

Rory.

On 4 July 2015 at 16:24, Aurelius Prochazka <aure@aure.com> wrote:
> No, as far as I know you can't run Csound on the watch, but because the
> watch has to be connected to the phone anyway, you can run Csound on the
> phone and generate audio and stream via Bluetooth, which is what I am doing
> in this somewhat goofy video:
>
> http://audiokit.io/blog/2015/06/13/watch-hackathon/
>
> Aure
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
> <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Aure,
>>
>> AU support in AudioKit will be amazing.  Good luck with this new direction
>> - keep us posted!
>>
>> Dr.B.
>>
>> PS: Have you started to support AudioKit development for the Apple Watch
>> yet?
>> Do you show any model projects and code that will run Csound on the Watch?
>>
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>>
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>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Aurelius Prochazka <aure@aure.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Couldn't you do something like what AudioKit does where you start off
>>> with a bare-bones CSD every time and then dynamically load the instruments
>>> as needed into the Csound6 engine?  I've been wanting to provide AU
>>> capabilities to AudioKit for a while so the work by Edward and Rory is super
>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> Aure
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is not so easy to take the same approach with AUs as with csLADSPA
>>>> and Cabbage. The problem is that each AU needs a unique ID that is
>>>> written directly into the plugin library's binary data when
>>>> compiled(and tied to the AUs plist files). With Cabbage I run a simple
>>>> process after the binary has been created that changes the VST plugin
>>>> ID. I've tried many different ways of doing the same with AUs but I
>>>> can't get it to work. As Ed has shown, it is relatively
>>>> straightforward to call Csound from an AU, but you'll either need to
>>>> use the same csd file name each time, or provide a drop-down or browse
>>>> menu for Csound files once the AU is opened. Neither approach is great
>>>> because the number of parameters in an AU is fixed. So all instruments
>>>> would have the to have the same number of parameters.
>>>>
>>>> I plan to look at this issue again when I get the chance. But it will
>>>> likely be September before I can get around to it.
>>>>
>>>> On 4 July 2015 at 09:20, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > You should try and make it like CsLadspa or Cabbage, where any CSD can
>>>> > be
>>>> > used.
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyway, that's good to hear. Well done.
>>>> >
>>>> > Victor Lazzarini
>>>> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> > Maynooth University
>>>> > Ireland
>>>> >
>>>> > On 3 Jul 2015, at 23:11, Edward Costello <phasereset@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after
>>>> > I
>>>> > successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working
>>>> > in
>>>> > Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make
>>>> > it an
>>>> > effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there
>>>> > isn’t any
>>>> > documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants
>>>> > help
>>>> > getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next
>>>> > week
>>>> > making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?
>>>> > Ed
>>>> >
>>>> > On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output.
>>>> > There is
>>>> > no audio unit Csound plugin either.
>>>> >
>>>> > Victor Lazzarini
>>>> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> > Maynooth University
>>>> > Ireland
>>>> >
>>>> > On 3 Jul 2015, at 09:19, Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@libero.it> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi all.
>>>> > I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in
>>>> > Garageband?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> > Gabriel.
>>>> >
>>>> >
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No, as far as I know you can't run Csound on the watch, but because the watch has to be connected to the phone anyway, you can run Csound on the phone and generate audio and stream via Bluetooth, which is what I am doing in this somewhat goofy video:

http://audiokit.io/blog/2015/06/13/watch-hackathon/

Aure

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

Aure,

AU support in AudioKit will be amazing.  Good luck with this new direction - keep us posted!

Dr.B.

PS: Have you started to support AudioKit development for the Apple Watch yet?

Do you show any model projects and code that will run Csound on the Watch?

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Couldn't you do something like what AudioKit does where you start off with a bare-bones CSD every time and then dynamically load the instruments as needed into the Csound6 engine?  I've been wanting to provide AU capabilities to AudioKit for a while so the work by Edward and Rory is super interesting.

Aure

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:

It is not so easy to take the same approach with AUs as with csLADSPA
and Cabbage. The problem is that each AU needs a unique ID that is
written directly into the plugin library's binary data when
compiled(and tied to the AUs plist files). With Cabbage I run a simple
process after the binary has been created that changes the VST plugin
ID. I've tried many different ways of doing the same with AUs but I
can't get it to work. As Ed has shown, it is relatively
straightforward to call Csound from an AU, but you'll either need to
use the same csd file name each time, or provide a drop-down or browse
menu for Csound files once the AU is opened. Neither approach is great
because the number of parameters in an AU is fixed. So all instruments
would have the to have the same number of parameters.

I plan to look at this issue again when I get the chance. But it will
likely be September before I can get around to it.

On 4 July 2015 at 09:20, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> You should try and make it like CsLadspa or Cabbage, where any CSD can be
> used.
>
> Anyway, that's good to hear. Well done.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 23:11, Edward Costello <phasereset@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after I
> successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working in
> Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make it an
> effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there isn’t any
> documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants help
> getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next week
> making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?
> Ed
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>
> I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output. There is
> no audio unit Csound plugin either.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 3 Jul 2015, at 09:19, Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@libero.it> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in Garageband?
>
> Thanks.
> Gabriel.
>
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Just a brief update to say I’ve been working on this. I currently have an Xcode project that builds either an effect or a synth audiounit with a cocoa gui. I want to just work on implementing the preset system and parameters over the next day or two then I’ll be happy to share the code and to collaborate on making it useful for everyone. 

Ed

On 4 Jul 2015, at 00:11, Edward Costello <phasereset@gmail.com> wrote:

I made a Csound Audiounit! I just got tied up with other things after I successfully got it working,  but it should be possible to get working in Garageband, it’s a synth type audio unit but it is easy enough to make it an effect, the code is here https://github.com/eddyc/CsoundAU, there isn’t any documentation or anything like that at the moment but if anyone wants help getting it working I can oblige. I could spend some time early next week making it a bit friendlier for public consumption if anyone wants it?

Ed

On 3 Jul 2015, at 21:40, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

I don't think so, as GarageBand does not have external MIDI output. There is no audio unit Csound plugin either.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 3 Jul 2015, at 09:19, Gabriele Battaglia <iz4apu@libero.it> wrote:

Hi all.
I could be possible to use an instrument created by CSound, in Garageband?

Thanks.
Gabriel.

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