I must have missed something: is there a specification for this new
 section somewhere? This sounds like a really exciting
development, and I'd like to know more about how it's supposed to
work.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> I have posted to SourceForge
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound6_6.05.1beta.exe/download.
> this is a large download) a beta version of CsoundQt for Windows that
> implements the  element of the CSD file. This permits users to
> incorporate JavaScript, HTML user interfaces with interactive widgets, style
> sheets, graphics created in code either by drawing on the HTML canvas or
> with full three-dimensional WebGL, and other features.
>
> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>
> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the cause and am
> working on a solution.
>
> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when switching to
> another piece with .
>
> However, the  features do work. There are two examples in the
> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving Csound, and
> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score generation and
> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The user must set
> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore button
> before this piece will produce sound.
>
> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are included in the
> installer.
>
> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or suggestions. I
> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and replace the
> download.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
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Is that like the  tag in webpages? In that case, could we not just have  instead of  to make it
standard?

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Maynooth University,
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> On 12 May 2015, at 15:13, Forrest Cahoon  wrote:
> 
> I must have missed something: is there a specification for this new
>  section somewhere? This sounds like a really exciting
> development, and I'd like to know more about how it's supposed to
> work.
> 
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> I have posted to SourceForge
>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound6_6.05.1beta.exe/download.
>> this is a large download) a beta version of CsoundQt for Windows that
>> implements the  element of the CSD file. This permits users to
>> incorporate JavaScript, HTML user interfaces with interactive widgets, style
>> sheets, graphics created in code either by drawing on the HTML canvas or
>> with full three-dimensional WebGL, and other features.
>> 
>> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>> 
>> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the cause and am
>> working on a solution.
>> 
>> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when switching to
>> another piece with .
>> 
>> However, the  features do work. There are two examples in the
>> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving Csound, and
>> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score generation and
>> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The user must set
>> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore button
>> before this piece will produce sound.
>> 
>> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are included in the
>> installer.
>> 
>> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or suggestions. I
>> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and replace the
>> download.
>> 
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> 
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Thanks!

This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly universal way to create UI 
withing csd.

I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on Linux on coming days.

best!
tarmo

On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
> I have posted to SourceForge (
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large download) a beta version of
> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the  element of the CSD file.
> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML user interfaces with
> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics created in code either by
> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full three-dimensional WebGL, and other
> features.
> 
> This is a beta release. Known issues:
> 
> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the cause and
> am working on a solution.
> 
> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when switching to
> another piece with .
> 
> However, the  features do work. There are two examples in the
> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving Csound, and
> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score generation and
> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The user must set
> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore button
> before this piece will produce sound.
> 
> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are included in the
> installer.
> 
> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or suggestions. I
> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and replace the
> download.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com


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yes, exciting.

i just tried to build (after pull) and get this error:
src/main.cpp:32:19: fatal error: tchar.h: file or directory not found.

	joachim



Am 12.05.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Tarmo Johannes:
> Thanks!
>
> This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly universal way to create UI
> withing csd.
>
> I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on Linux on coming days.
>
> best!
> tarmo
>
> On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
>> I have posted to SourceForge (
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
>> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large download) a beta version of
>> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the  element of the CSD file.
>> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML user interfaces with
>> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics created in code either by
>> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full three-dimensional WebGL, and other
>> features.
>>
>> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>>
>> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the cause and
>> am working on a solution.
>>
>> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when switching to
>> another piece with .
>>
>> However, the  features do work. There are two examples in the
>> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving Csound, and
>> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score generation and
>> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The user must set
>> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore button
>> before this piece will produce sound.
>>
>> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are included in the
>> installer.
>>
>> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or suggestions. I
>> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and replace the
>> download.
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
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Right now, <html> goes inside <CsHtml5>. But I suppose I could do as you suggest. In fact, I don't know why I didn't think of that myself. Can you think of any down sides?

Regards,

Mike

-----------------------------------------------------

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On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

Is that like the <html> tag in webpages? In that case, could we not just have <html> instead of <CsHtml5> to make it
standard?

========================
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Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 12 May 2015, at 15:13, Forrest Cahoon <forrest.cahoon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I must have missed something: is there a specification for this new
> <CsHtml5> section somewhere? This sounds like a really exciting
> development, and I'd like to know more about how it's supposed to
> work.
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Michael Gogins
> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have posted to SourceForge
>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound6_6.05.1beta.exe/download.
>> this is a large download) a beta version of CsoundQt for Windows that
>> implements the <CsHtml5> element of the CSD file. This permits users to
>> incorporate JavaScript, HTML user interfaces with interactive widgets, style
>> sheets, graphics created in code either by drawing on the HTML canvas or
>> with full three-dimensional WebGL, and other features.
>>
>> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>>
>> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the cause and am
>> working on a solution.
>>
>> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when switching to
>> another piece with <CsHtml5>.
>>
>> However, the <CsHtml5> features do work. There are two examples in the
>> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving Csound, and
>> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score generation and
>> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The user must set
>> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore button
>> before this piece will produce sound.
>>
>> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are included in the
>> installer.
>>
>> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or suggestions. I
>> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and replace the
>> download.
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------
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>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
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I will fix that.

Regards,
Mike

thanks.  yes, it builds now, but i get two warnings:

Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: concurrent
WARNING: Failure to find: src/html5guidisplay.h

and the Examples > Widgets menu is empty, so not sure whether html 
widgets are working here for linux. (i am still on qt4 — i don't know if 
it is a problem.)

best -
	joachim


Am 13.05.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Michael Gogins:
> I will fix that.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On May 12, 2015 5:16 PM, "joachim heintz"  > wrote:
>
>     yes, exciting.
>
>     i just tried to build (after pull) and get this error:
>     src/main.cpp:32:19: fatal error: tchar.h: file or directory not found.
>
>              joachim
>
>
>
>     Am 12.05.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Tarmo Johannes:
>      > Thanks!
>      >
>      > This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly universal way to
>     create UI
>      > withing csd.
>      >
>      > I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on Linux on coming
>     days.
>      >
>      > best!
>      > tarmo
>      >
>      > On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
>      >> I have posted to SourceForge (
>      >>
>     http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
>      >> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large download) a beta
>     version of
>      >> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the  element of
>     the CSD file.
>      >> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML user
>     interfaces with
>      >> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics created in code
>     either by
>      >> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full three-dimensional WebGL,
>     and other
>      >> features.
>      >>
>      >> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>      >>
>      >> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the
>     cause and
>      >> am working on a solution.
>      >>
>      >> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when
>     switching to
>      >> another piece with .
>      >>
>      >> However, the  features do work. There are two examples
>     in the
>      >> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving
>     Csound, and
>      >> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score
>     generation and
>      >> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The
>     user must set
>      >> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore
>     button
>      >> before this piece will produce sound.
>      >>
>      >> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are
>     included in the
>      >> installer.
>      >>
>      >> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or
>     suggestions. I
>      >> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and
>     replace the
>      >> download.
>      >>
>      >> -----------------------------------------------------
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>      >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
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The examples  widgets have nothing to do with the html widgets. I did not build the html examples into Csound qt yet  they are in Csound git. Qt 4 should be ok, there may be a few minor things. The header was renamed.

Regards,
Mike

Will this work for plugin GUI creators like Cabbage?




On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> The examples  widgets have nothing to do with the html widgets. I did not
> build the html examples into Csound qt yet  they are in Csound git. Qt 4
> should be ok, there may be a few minor things. The header was renamed.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On May 13, 2015 3:08 AM, "joachim heintz"  wrote:
>>
>> thanks.  yes, it builds now, but i get two warnings:
>>
>> Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: concurrent
>> WARNING: Failure to find: src/html5guidisplay.h
>>
>> and the Examples > Widgets menu is empty, so not sure whether html
>> widgets are working here for linux. (i am still on qt4 — i don't know if
>> it is a problem.)
>>
>> best -
>>         joachim
>>
>>
>> Am 13.05.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Michael Gogins:
>> > I will fix that.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > On May 12, 2015 5:16 PM, "joachim heintz" > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >     yes, exciting.
>> >
>> >     i just tried to build (after pull) and get this error:
>> >     src/main.cpp:32:19: fatal error: tchar.h: file or directory not
>> > found.
>> >
>> >              joachim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     Am 12.05.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Tarmo Johannes:
>> >      > Thanks!
>> >      >
>> >      > This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly universal way to
>> >     create UI
>> >      > withing csd.
>> >      >
>> >      > I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on Linux on coming
>> >     days.
>> >      >
>> >      > best!
>> >      > tarmo
>> >      >
>> >      > On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
>> >      >> I have posted to SourceForge (
>> >      >>
>> >
>> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
>> >      >> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large download) a beta
>> >     version of
>> >      >> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the  element of
>> >     the CSD file.
>> >      >> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML user
>> >     interfaces with
>> >      >> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics created in code
>> >     either by
>> >      >> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full three-dimensional WebGL,
>> >     and other
>> >      >> features.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>> >      >>
>> >      >> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the
>> >     cause and
>> >      >> am working on a solution.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when
>> >     switching to
>> >      >> another piece with .
>> >      >>
>> >      >> However, the  features do work. There are two examples
>> >     in the
>> >      >> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving
>> >     Csound, and
>> >      >> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score
>> >     generation and
>> >      >> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The
>> >     user must set
>> >      >> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore
>> >     button
>> >      >> before this piece will produce sound.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are
>> >     included in the
>> >      >> installer.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or
>> >     suggestions. I
>> >      >> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and
>> >     replace the
>> >      >> download.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >      >> Michael Gogins
>> >      >> Irreducible Productions
>> >      >> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >      >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >
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No, you need a browser engine, which is what Mike has added to CsoundQT.
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
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> On 13 May 2015, at 14:08, andy fillebrown  wrote:
> 
> Will this work for plugin GUI creators like Cabbage?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> The examples  widgets have nothing to do with the html widgets. I did not
>> build the html examples into Csound qt yet  they are in Csound git. Qt 4
>> should be ok, there may be a few minor things. The header was renamed.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>> 
>> On May 13, 2015 3:08 AM, "joachim heintz"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks.  yes, it builds now, but i get two warnings:
>>> 
>>> Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: concurrent
>>> WARNING: Failure to find: src/html5guidisplay.h
>>> 
>>> and the Examples > Widgets menu is empty, so not sure whether html
>>> widgets are working here for linux. (i am still on qt4 — i don't know if
>>> it is a problem.)
>>> 
>>> best -
>>>        joachim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 13.05.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Michael Gogins:
>>>> I will fix that.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2015 5:16 PM, "joachim heintz" >>> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    yes, exciting.
>>>> 
>>>>    i just tried to build (after pull) and get this error:
>>>>    src/main.cpp:32:19: fatal error: tchar.h: file or directory not
>>>> found.
>>>> 
>>>>             joachim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Am 12.05.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Tarmo Johannes:
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly universal way to
>>>>    create UI
>>>>> withing csd.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on Linux on coming
>>>>    days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> best!
>>>>> tarmo
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>>>> I have posted to SourceForge (
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
>>>>>> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large download) a beta
>>>>    version of
>>>>>> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the  element of
>>>>    the CSD file.
>>>>>> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML user
>>>>    interfaces with
>>>>>> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics created in code
>>>>    either by
>>>>>> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full three-dimensional WebGL,
>>>>    and other
>>>>>> features.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the
>>>>    cause and
>>>>>> am working on a solution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when
>>>>    switching to
>>>>>> another piece with .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, the  features do work. There are two examples
>>>>    in the
>>>>>> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving
>>>>    Csound, and
>>>>>> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score
>>>>    generation and
>>>>>> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The
>>>>    user must set
>>>>>> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore
>>>>    button
>>>>>> before this piece will produce sound.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are
>>>>    included in the
>>>>>> installer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or
>>>>    suggestions. I
>>>>>> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and
>>>>    replace the
>>>>>> download.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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I have tried something similar on Mac OS, just using a Webkit WebView I made a gui using HTML and did communication back to Csound using web sockets (I had to write an opcode for that). In this way (at least in my dreams) you could write cross platform apps and even AU VST plugins that use Webviews, using Csound and HTML. Would make development a good bit easier as you are pretty much taking any native coding out of the picture.

Ed

On 13 May 2015, at 16:04, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

Victor is correct. But Cabbage could be modified with the browser engine, as CsoundQt has been modified. 

This is not a lightweight piece of code. Essentially you are stuffing all of Google's Chromium Web browser into your program. To include the browser, there are about a dozen fairly complicated C++ classes that have to be compiled and fitted into the project. Then too, the actual browser (the HTML window, that is) might be running in a separate process and communicates with your actual program over a hidden IPC channel. (Actually right now this is just a separate thread, but this may be causing problems and may have to be changed).

The plus side, of course, is the stupendous capabilities of Chromium. Also implementing the native functions for the JavaScript functions is quite straightforward.

In the long run, say five years or more, or maybe less, I think something like Emscripten is the way to go. At this point the Web browsers are doing almost everything that both the operating system and a decent game engine are doing. And all of this is available from JavaScript. And because of the security sandboxing, only JavaScript can be COUNTED ON to run in a regular browser. But what I am saying is that there is now real competition between the "browser platform" and the various operating system platforms. In the long run, the simplest solution is for the browser to grow and take over most of the functionality of the operating systems, which will become more like simple kernels and hardware abstraction layers. But that's if people are rational.

I would be interested if Rory Walsh wants to add HTML capabilities to Cabbage. If he does, he can use most of the code that I developed for CsoundQt out of the box.

Regards,

Mike

-----------------------------------------------------

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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:08 AM, andy fillebrown <andy.fillebrown@gmail.com> wrote:

Will this work for plugin GUI creators like Cabbage?

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Michael Gogins
<michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
> The examples  widgets have nothing to do with the html widgets. I did not
> build the html examples into Csound qt yet  they are in Csound git. Qt 4
> should be ok, there may be a few minor things. The header was renamed.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On May 13, 2015 3:08 AM, "joachim heintz" <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
>>
>> thanks.  yes, it builds now, but i get two warnings:
>>
>> Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: concurrent
>> WARNING: Failure to find: src/html5guidisplay.h
>>
>> and the Examples > Widgets menu is empty, so not sure whether html
>> widgets are working here for linux. (i am still on qt4 — i don't know if
>> it is a problem.)
>>
>> best -
>>         joachim
>>
>>
>> Am 13.05.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Michael Gogins:
>> > I will fix that.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > On May 12, 2015 5:16 PM, "joachim heintz" <jh@joachimheintz.de
>> > <mailto:jh@joachimheintz.de>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     yes, exciting.
>> >
>> >     i just tried to build (after pull) and get this error:
>> >     src/main.cpp:32:19: fatal error: tchar.h: file or directory not
>> > found.
>> >
>> >              joachim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     Am 12.05.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Tarmo Johannes:
>> >      > Thanks!
>> >      >
>> >      > This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly universal way to
>> >     create UI
>> >      > withing csd.
>> >      >
>> >      > I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on Linux on coming
>> >     days.
>> >      >
>> >      > best!
>> >      > tarmo
>> >      >
>> >      > On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
>> >      >> I have posted to SourceForge (
>> >      >>
>> >
>> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
>> >      >> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large download) a beta
>> >     version of
>> >      >> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the <CsHtml5> element of
>> >     the CSD file.
>> >      >> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML user
>> >     interfaces with
>> >      >> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics created in code
>> >     either by
>> >      >> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full three-dimensional WebGL,
>> >     and other
>> >      >> features.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>> >      >>
>> >      >> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware of the
>> >     cause and
>> >      >> am working on a solution.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or when
>> >     switching to
>> >      >> another piece with <CsHtml5>.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> However, the <CsHtml5> features do work. There are two examples
>> >     in the
>> >      >> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving
>> >     Csound, and
>> >      >> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score
>> >     generation and
>> >      >> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The
>> >     user must set
>> >      >> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the restore
>> >     button
>> >      >> before this piece will produce sound.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are
>> >     included in the
>> >      >> installer.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or
>> >     suggestions. I
>> >      >> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and
>> >     replace the
>> >      >> download.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >      >> Michael Gogins
>> >      >> Irreducible Productions
>> >      >> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>> >      >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >
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Hi,
You wrote an opcode to read websockets? Fantastic! Could it be integrated into Csound source code?
Thanks,
Tarmo

> I would be interested if Rory Walsh wants to add HTML capabilities to
> Cabbage. If he does, he can use most of the code that I developed for
> CsoundQt out of the box.

Some day perhaps. But right now I would rather see this mature a
little. Am eager to start testing it myself and seeing it in action.
Apropos, will you be showing this at the Csound conference?

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That's too bad Michael. You'll be missed!

On 13 May 2015 at 18:37, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> I will submit a presentation. I am not going personally.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>
>> > I would be interested if Rory Walsh wants to add HTML capabilities to
>> > Cabbage. If he does, he can use most of the code that I developed for
>> > CsoundQt out of the box.
>>
>> Some day perhaps. But right now I would rather see this mature a
>> little. Am eager to start testing it myself and seeing it in action.
>> Apropos, will you be showing this at the Csound conference?
>>
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schade!
perhaps you can change your mind about this.  even mr kerry was there 
recently — maybe you can convince him to go again, to st petersburg, 
early october, and certainly there will be a seat in his plane ...

	j


Am 13.05.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Michael Gogins:
> I will submit a presentation. I am not going personally.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Rory Walsh  > wrote:
>
>     > I would be interested if Rory Walsh wants to add HTML capabilities to
>     > Cabbage. If he does, he can use most of the code that I developed for
>     > CsoundQt out of the box.
>
>     Some day perhaps. But right now I would rather see this mature a
>     little. Am eager to start testing it myself and seeing it in action.
>     Apropos, will you be showing this at the Csound conference?
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hello mike -

i found your GameOfLife3D.csd in the csound examples, as you explained. 
  i wanted to try it with the csoundqt which has been (i think) built 
with html5 support (linux, ubuntu studio 12.04).  but unfortunately, the 
tag is not being recognized.

it is not important for my work to get it now working on linux; i was 
just curious and wanted to report the issue.

best -
	joachim



STARTING FILE
**** Licence Information ****
Game of Life in 3D for Csound
Copyright (C) 2013 by Michael Gogins.
All rights reserved.
Use right mouse button for devtools to debug or examine.
**** End of Licence Information ****
Creating options
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 
unknown CSD tag: 




Am 13.05.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Michael Gogins:
> The examples  widgets have nothing to do with the html widgets. I did
> not build the html examples into Csound qt yet  they are in Csound git.
> Qt 4 should be ok, there may be a few minor things. The header was renamed.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On May 13, 2015 3:08 AM, "joachim heintz"  > wrote:
>
>     thanks.  yes, it builds now, but i get two warnings:
>
>     Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: concurrent
>     WARNING: Failure to find: src/html5guidisplay.h
>
>     and the Examples > Widgets menu is empty, so not sure whether html
>     widgets are working here for linux. (i am still on qt4 — i don't know if
>     it is a problem.)
>
>     best -
>              joachim
>
>
>     Am 13.05.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Michael Gogins:
>      > I will fix that.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      > Mike
>      >
>      > On May 12, 2015 5:16 PM, "joachim heintz"      
>      > >> wrote:
>      >
>      >     yes, exciting.
>      >
>      >     i just tried to build (after pull) and get this error:
>      >     src/main.cpp:32:19: fatal error: tchar.h: file or directory
>     not found.
>      >
>      >              joachim
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >     Am 12.05.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Tarmo Johannes:
>      >      > Thanks!
>      >      >
>      >      > This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly universal
>     way to
>      >     create UI
>      >      > withing csd.
>      >      >
>      >      > I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on Linux on
>     coming
>      >     days.
>      >      >
>      >      > best!
>      >      > tarmo
>      >      >
>      >      > On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
>      >      >> I have posted to SourceForge (
>      >      >>
>      >
>     http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
>      >      >> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large download) a beta
>      >     version of
>      >      >> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the  element of
>      >     the CSD file.
>      >      >> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML user
>      >     interfaces with
>      >      >> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics created in code
>      >     either by
>      >      >> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full three-dimensional
>     WebGL,
>      >     and other
>      >      >> features.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>      >      >>
>      >      >> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am aware
>     of the
>      >     cause and
>      >      >> am working on a solution.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a piece or
>     when
>      >     switching to
>      >      >> another piece with .
>      >      >>
>      >      >> However, the  features do work. There are two
>     examples
>      >     in the
>      >      >> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off WebGL driving
>      >     Csound, and
>      >      >> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well as score
>      >     generation and
>      >      >> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer system. The
>      >     user must set
>      >      >> each widget, click on the store button, and click on the
>     restore
>      >     button
>      >      >> before this piece will produce sound.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs also are
>      >     included in the
>      >      >> installer.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs, questions, or
>      >     suggestions. I
>      >      >> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next few days, and
>      >     replace the
>      >      >> download.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> -----------------------------------------------------
>      >      >> Michael Gogins
>      >      >> Irreducible Productions
>      >      >> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>      >      >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >
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These messages should be ignored, they are printed even if it works. But you will see the animation if it works.

You have to configure CsoundQt's build for these features, did you do that.

Or you try the installer on windows.

Best,
Mike

you are right, i forgot to mention CONFIG+=html5.

doing that, it complains about:
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qcefwebview.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/html5guidisplay.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/cefclient_qt.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/client_handler_qt.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qcefwebview.h

is this related to what you mentioned in qcs.pro:
# For HTML5, download the Chromium Embedded Framework from:
# https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef. Use the pre-built 32 bit 
binaries
# from: 
http://www.magpcss.net/cef_downloads/index.php?query=label%3A~Deprecated+label%3ACEF3+label%3Abinary#list.

do i have to install it on linux, too?

thanks -
	joachim



Am 17.05.2015 um 18:23 schrieb Michael Gogins:
> These messages should be ignored, they are printed even if it works. But
> you will see the animation if it works.
>
> You have to configure CsoundQt's build for these features, did you do that.
>
> Or you try the installer on windows.
>
> Best,
> Mike
>
> On May 17, 2015 10:15 AM, "joachim heintz"  > wrote:
>
>     hello mike -
>
>     i found your GameOfLife3D.csd in the csound examples, as you explained.
>        i wanted to try it with the csoundqt which has been (i think) built
>     with html5 support (linux, ubuntu studio 12.04).  but unfortunately, the
>     tag is not being recognized.
>
>     it is not important for my work to get it now working on linux; i was
>     just curious and wanted to report the issue.
>
>     best -
>              joachim
>
>
>
>     STARTING FILE
>     **** Licence Information ****
>     Game of Life in 3D for Csound
>     Copyright (C) 2013 by Michael Gogins.
>     All rights reserved.
>     Use right mouse button for devtools to debug or examine.
>     **** End of Licence Information ****
>     Creating options
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>     unknown CSD tag: 
>
>
>
>
>     Am 13.05.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Michael Gogins:
>      > The examples  widgets have nothing to do with the html widgets. I did
>      > not build the html examples into Csound qt yet  they are in
>     Csound git.
>      > Qt 4 should be ok, there may be a few minor things. The header
>     was renamed.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      > Mike
>      >
>      > On May 13, 2015 3:08 AM, "joachim heintz"      
>      > >> wrote:
>      >
>      >     thanks.  yes, it builds now, but i get two warnings:
>      >
>      >     Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: concurrent
>      >     WARNING: Failure to find: src/html5guidisplay.h
>      >
>      >     and the Examples > Widgets menu is empty, so not sure whether
>     html
>      >     widgets are working here for linux. (i am still on qt4 — i
>     don't know if
>      >     it is a problem.)
>      >
>      >     best -
>      >              joachim
>      >
>      >
>      >     Am 13.05.2015 um 00:10 schrieb Michael Gogins:
>      >      > I will fix that.
>      >      >
>      >      > Regards,
>      >      > Mike
>      >      >
>      >      > On May 12, 2015 5:16 PM, "joachim heintz"
>     
>      >     >
>      >      > 
>     >>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >     yes, exciting.
>      >      >
>      >      >     i just tried to build (after pull) and get this error:
>      >      >     src/main.cpp:32:19: fatal error: tchar.h: file or
>     directory
>      >     not found.
>      >      >
>      >      >              joachim
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >     Am 12.05.2015 um 23:00 schrieb Tarmo Johannes:
>      >      >      > Thanks!
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > This is a big thing - to move towards a possibly
>     universal
>      >     way to
>      >      >     create UI
>      >      >      > withing csd.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > I hope I can pull the sources and try to build on
>     Linux on
>      >     coming
>      >      >     days.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > best!
>      >      >      > tarmo
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > On Tuesday 12 May 2015 09:00:09 Michael Gogins wrote:
>      >      >      >> I have posted to SourceForge (
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >
>      >
>     http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.05/Setup_Csound
>      >      >      >> 6_6.05.1beta.exe/download. this is a large
>     download) a beta
>      >      >     version of
>      >      >      >> CsoundQt for Windows that implements the 
>     element of
>      >      >     the CSD file.
>      >      >      >> This permits users to incorporate JavaScript, HTML
>     user
>      >      >     interfaces with
>      >      >      >> interactive widgets, style sheets, graphics
>     created in code
>      >      >     either by
>      >      >      >> drawing on the HTML canvas or with full
>     three-dimensional
>      >     WebGL,
>      >      >     and other
>      >      >      >> features.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> This is a beta release. Known issues:
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> (1) CsoundQt always produces a crash on exit. I am
>     aware
>      >     of the
>      >      >     cause and
>      >      >      >> am working on a solution.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> (2) There may be other crashes when re-running a
>     piece or
>      >     when
>      >      >     switching to
>      >      >      >> another piece with .
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> However, the  features do work. There are two
>      >     examples
>      >      >     in the
>      >      >      >> Csound examples/html directory, one to show off
>     WebGL driving
>      >      >     Csound, and
>      >      >      >> the other to show off styled HTML widgets as well
>     as score
>      >      >     generation and
>      >      >      >> graphics generation from a JavaScript Lindenmayer
>     system. The
>      >      >     user must set
>      >      >      >> each widget, click on the store button, and click
>     on the
>      >     restore
>      >      >     button
>      >      >      >> before this piece will produce sound.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> The JavaScript libraries required by these CSDs
>     also are
>      >      >     included in the
>      >      >      >> installer.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> Please get back to me with any problems, bugs,
>     questions, or
>      >      >     suggestions. I
>      >      >      >> will probably fix the crash on exit in the next
>     few days, and
>      >      >     replace the
>      >      >      >> download.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> -----------------------------------------------------
>      >      >      >> Michael Gogins
>      >      >      >> Irreducible Productions
>      >      >      >> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>      >      >      >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
>      >      >
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>     Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
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> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
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One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud 
Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
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Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Yes. It is prebuilt. Install the CEF BINARIES and do not even try to build them.

Best,
Mike