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Date2015-04-24 09:47
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
Subjectpvsceps
Hi,
what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
also interested in the same for iceps and ceps


Date2015-04-24 10:31
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: pvsceps
Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
> 
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
> 
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Date2015-04-24 10:41
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: pvsceps
Great, thanks.
In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
something like
kArr pvsceps fsig
(?)

2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date2015-04-24 11:36
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: pvsceps
yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter

karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs] 

where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> 
> Great, thanks.
> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
> something like
> kArr pvsceps fsig
> (?)
> 
> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>> 
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
> 
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
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Date2015-04-24 11:52
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: pvsceps
Wonderful, thanks

2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>
> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>
> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> Great, thanks.
>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>> something like
>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>> (?)
>>
>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> NTNU
>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> Norway
>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>
>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Csound-users mailing list
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>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
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Date2015-04-24 12:07
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: pvsceps
Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs

iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> 
> Wonderful, thanks
> 
> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>> 
>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>> 
>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great, thanks.
>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>> something like
>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>> (?)
>>> 
>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>> 
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>> NTNU
>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>> Norway
>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
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>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>> 
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
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>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
> 
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud 
> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
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> _______________________________________________
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> Send bugs reports to
>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

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Date2015-04-24 12:24
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: pvsceps
Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?

Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
coefficient is always zero?
If I do
        kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
        kCeps     pvsceps fsin
        kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
the value of kceps_b2 is zero


2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>
> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> Wonderful, thanks
>>
>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>
>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>
>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>> something like
>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>> (?)
>>>>
>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
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>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> NTNU
>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> Norway
>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>
>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Send bugs reports to
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>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-users mailing list
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>> Send bugs reports to
>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
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Date2015-04-24 13:04
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: pvsceps
ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> 
> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
> 
> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
> coefficient is always zero?
> If I do
>        kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>        kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>        kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
> 
> 
> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>> 
>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>> 
>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>> 
>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>> 
>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>> 
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>> something like
>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>> (?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>> NTNU
>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>> Norway
>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
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>>> 
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>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>> 
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
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> 
> -- 
> 
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> Cell: +47 92 203 205
> 
> http://flyndresang.no/
> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
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Date2015-04-24 15:12
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: pvsceps
this reminds me that i recently saw pvsfromarray and pvs2array have no 
manual page. (for pvs2array it is actuallay pvs2tab, i think.) i forgot 
to file this.
	joachim


Am 24.04.2015 um 11:31 schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
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Date2015-04-30 23:59
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: pvsceps
I'm experimenting more with this, bear with me if what I ask does not
make sense. I am in unfamiliar territory...

I'm trying to create mel frequency cepstral coefficients,
so I iterate over the bins in an fsig,
making a 32 band mel frequency spectrum (checking which band the
frequency of the bin belongs to and accumulating amplitudes for that
band).
I then take the log of the amps for each band.
Then I have an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
for each of the 32 mel frequency bands (this array is called
kMelCepsInput below),
and I try to do
        kMelCeps[] init    64
        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput
which gives
error:  Unable to find opcode entry for 'ceps' with matching argument types:
Found: k[] ceps k[]

Should there be an extra argument to ceps?
I tried
        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput, 32
but that gives
INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet

kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsInput   32

I do note the extra blank line in the error message (before the line
containing ceps), so perhaps this refers to another error (somehow
concealed in the blank line?)

Also do enlighten me if I'm going about this in a completely backwards fashion.

best
Oeyvind

2015-04-24 14:04 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
> ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
>> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
>>
>> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
>> coefficient is always zero?
>> If I do
>>        kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>>        kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>>        kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
>> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
>>
>>
>> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>>>
>>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>>>
>>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>>>
>>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>>>
>>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>>> something like
>>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
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>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> NTNU
>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> Norway
>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>
>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date2015-05-01 00:11
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: pvsceps
ceps needs a spectrum calculated with rfft, and the second argument is the number of coefficients kept.

Something like this

kfft[] rfft ksigarray
kceps[] ceps kfft, inumcoeffs

I have not had time to prepare a full example yet, but I will do.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:59, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> 
> I'm experimenting more with this, bear with me if what I ask does not
> make sense. I am in unfamiliar territory...
> 
> I'm trying to create mel frequency cepstral coefficients,
> so I iterate over the bins in an fsig,
> making a 32 band mel frequency spectrum (checking which band the
> frequency of the bin belongs to and accumulating amplitudes for that
> band).
> I then take the log of the amps for each band.
> Then I have an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands (this array is called
> kMelCepsInput below),
> and I try to do
>        kMelCeps[] init    64
>        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput
> which gives
> error:  Unable to find opcode entry for 'ceps' with matching argument types:
> Found: k[] ceps k[]
> 
> Should there be an extra argument to ceps?
> I tried
>        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput, 32
> but that gives
> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
> 
> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsInput   32
> 
> I do note the extra blank line in the error message (before the line
> containing ceps), so perhaps this refers to another error (somehow
> concealed in the blank line?)
> 
> Also do enlighten me if I'm going about this in a completely backwards fashion.
> 
> best
> Oeyvind
> 
> 2015-04-24 14:04 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>> ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
>>> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
>>> 
>>> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
>>> coefficient is always zero?
>>> If I do
>>>       kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>>>       kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>>>       kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
>>> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>>>> 
>>>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>>>> 
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
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>>>>> 
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>>> 
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Date2015-05-01 00:27
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: pvsceps
It might be the output of fft instead of rfft. I need to check, but I do not have a computer here. 

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 1 May 2015, at 00:11, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
> ceps needs a spectrum calculated with rfft, and the second argument is the number of coefficients kept.
> 
> Something like this
> 
> kfft[] rfft ksigarray
> kceps[] ceps kfft, inumcoeffs
> 
> I have not had time to prepare a full example yet, but I will do.
> 
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:59, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm experimenting more with this, bear with me if what I ask does not
>> make sense. I am in unfamiliar territory...
>> 
>> I'm trying to create mel frequency cepstral coefficients,
>> so I iterate over the bins in an fsig,
>> making a 32 band mel frequency spectrum (checking which band the
>> frequency of the bin belongs to and accumulating amplitudes for that
>> band).
>> I then take the log of the amps for each band.
>> Then I have an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
>> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands (this array is called
>> kMelCepsInput below),
>> and I try to do
>>       kMelCeps[] init    64
>>       kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput
>> which gives
>> error:  Unable to find opcode entry for 'ceps' with matching argument types:
>> Found: k[] ceps k[]
>> 
>> Should there be an extra argument to ceps?
>> I tried
>>       kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput, 32
>> but that gives
>> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>> 
>> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsInput   32
>> 
>> I do note the extra blank line in the error message (before the line
>> containing ceps), so perhaps this refers to another error (somehow
>> concealed in the blank line?)
>> 
>> Also do enlighten me if I'm going about this in a completely backwards fashion.
>> 
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>> 
>> 2015-04-24 14:04 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>> ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.
>>> 
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
>>>> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
>>>> coefficient is always zero?
>>>> If I do
>>>>      kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>>>>      kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>>>>      kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
>>>> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>>>>> 
>>>>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>>>>> 
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> NTNU
>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> Norway
>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>> 
>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>> 
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>> 
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>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
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>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>> 
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Date2015-05-01 00:41
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: pvsceps
Thanks for the quick reply.
I tried
        kMelCeps[] init    64
        kMelCepsIn[] init    64
        kMelCepsIn              rfft kMelCepsInput
        kMelCeps                ceps kMelCepsIn, 16
where kCepsInput is an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
for each of the 32 mel frequency bands.

Still I get
INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet

kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsIn      16


Should the input to rfft be the amps only, or the amp, freq pairs ?
Also, perhaps there is something else wrong in my code that triggers
the init error? The sizes of the arrays or something?


2015-05-01 1:11 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
> ceps needs a spectrum calculated with rfft, and the second argument is the number of coefficients kept.
>
> Something like this
>
> kfft[] rfft ksigarray
> kceps[] ceps kfft, inumcoeffs
>
> I have not had time to prepare a full example yet, but I will do.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:59, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> I'm experimenting more with this, bear with me if what I ask does not
>> make sense. I am in unfamiliar territory...
>>
>> I'm trying to create mel frequency cepstral coefficients,
>> so I iterate over the bins in an fsig,
>> making a 32 band mel frequency spectrum (checking which band the
>> frequency of the bin belongs to and accumulating amplitudes for that
>> band).
>> I then take the log of the amps for each band.
>> Then I have an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
>> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands (this array is called
>> kMelCepsInput below),
>> and I try to do
>>        kMelCeps[] init    64
>>        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput
>> which gives
>> error:  Unable to find opcode entry for 'ceps' with matching argument types:
>> Found: k[] ceps k[]
>>
>> Should there be an extra argument to ceps?
>> I tried
>>        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput, 32
>> but that gives
>> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>>
>> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsInput   32
>>
>> I do note the extra blank line in the error message (before the line
>> containing ceps), so perhaps this refers to another error (somehow
>> concealed in the blank line?)
>>
>> Also do enlighten me if I'm going about this in a completely backwards fashion.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2015-04-24 14:04 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>> ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
>>>> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
>>>>
>>>> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
>>>> coefficient is always zero?
>>>> If I do
>>>>       kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>>>>       kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>>>>       kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
>>>> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>>>>>
>>>>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
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>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>> Norway
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> NTNU
>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> Norway
>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>
>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
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>>>>
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>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
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Date2015-05-01 00:43
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: pvsceps
.. and the same error if I use fft instead of rfft (might be obvious,
but I tried just to be sure).

No hurry, I'm calling it a day now. Will pick it up again sometime
during the weekend.


2015-05-01 1:41 GMT+02:00 Oeyvind Brandtsegg :
> Thanks for the quick reply.
> I tried
>         kMelCeps[] init    64
>         kMelCepsIn[] init    64
>         kMelCepsIn              rfft kMelCepsInput
>         kMelCeps                ceps kMelCepsIn, 16
> where kCepsInput is an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands.
>
> Still I get
> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>
> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsIn      16
>
>
> Should the input to rfft be the amps only, or the amp, freq pairs ?
> Also, perhaps there is something else wrong in my code that triggers
> the init error? The sizes of the arrays or something?
>
>
> 2015-05-01 1:11 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>> ceps needs a spectrum calculated with rfft, and the second argument is the number of coefficients kept.
>>
>> Something like this
>>
>> kfft[] rfft ksigarray
>> kceps[] ceps kfft, inumcoeffs
>>
>> I have not had time to prepare a full example yet, but I will do.
>>
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>>
>>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:59, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm experimenting more with this, bear with me if what I ask does not
>>> make sense. I am in unfamiliar territory...
>>>
>>> I'm trying to create mel frequency cepstral coefficients,
>>> so I iterate over the bins in an fsig,
>>> making a 32 band mel frequency spectrum (checking which band the
>>> frequency of the bin belongs to and accumulating amplitudes for that
>>> band).
>>> I then take the log of the amps for each band.
>>> Then I have an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
>>> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands (this array is called
>>> kMelCepsInput below),
>>> and I try to do
>>>        kMelCeps[] init    64
>>>        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput
>>> which gives
>>> error:  Unable to find opcode entry for 'ceps' with matching argument types:
>>> Found: k[] ceps k[]
>>>
>>> Should there be an extra argument to ceps?
>>> I tried
>>>        kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput, 32
>>> but that gives
>>> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>>>
>>> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsInput   32
>>>
>>> I do note the extra blank line in the error message (before the line
>>> containing ceps), so perhaps this refers to another error (somehow
>>> concealed in the blank line?)
>>>
>>> Also do enlighten me if I'm going about this in a completely backwards fashion.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Oeyvind
>>>
>>> 2015-04-24 14:04 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>> ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.
>>>>
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland
>>>>
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
>>>>> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
>>>>> coefficient is always zero?
>>>>> If I do
>>>>>       kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>>>>>       kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>>>>>       kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
>>>>> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>> NTNU
>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>> Norway
>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>
>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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Date2015-05-01 10:16
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: pvsceps
I had a look at the code:

1) ceps expects an array of N/2+1 magnitudes, where N is your FFT size (pow-of-two)
2) it is designed to work with mags, which in turn is designed to work with rfft
3) you can use other sources, provided that you supply the input in the format
it expects: magnitudes for non-negative freqs, from 0Hz to Nyquist inclusive.
(input array needs to be pow-of-two+1 size)

So, here’s an example with rfft

ksig[] init 1024
...
kout[] ceps mags(rfft(ksig)), 10

Note that the Csound fft implementation seems to need at least 64 samples to
work properly, so you need to have at least 65 magnitudes in the input.

I will write a proper example soon.

Regards
========================
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Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
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Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 

> On 1 May 2015, at 00:43, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> 
> .. and the same error if I use fft instead of rfft (might be obvious,
> but I tried just to be sure).
> 
> No hurry, I'm calling it a day now. Will pick it up again sometime
> during the weekend.
> 
> 
> 2015-05-01 1:41 GMT+02:00 Oeyvind Brandtsegg :
>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>> I tried
>>        kMelCeps[] init    64
>>        kMelCepsIn[] init    64
>>        kMelCepsIn              rfft kMelCepsInput
>>        kMelCeps                ceps kMelCepsIn, 16
>> where kCepsInput is an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
>> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands.
>> 
>> Still I get
>> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>> 
>> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsIn      16
>> 
>> 
>> Should the input to rfft be the amps only, or the amp, freq pairs ?
>> Also, perhaps there is something else wrong in my code that triggers
>> the init error? The sizes of the arrays or something?
>> 
>> 
>> 2015-05-01 1:11 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>> ceps needs a spectrum calculated with rfft, and the second argument is the number of coefficients kept.
>>> 
>>> Something like this
>>> 
>>> kfft[] rfft ksigarray
>>> kceps[] ceps kfft, inumcoeffs
>>> 
>>> I have not had time to prepare a full example yet, but I will do.
>>> 
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:59, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm experimenting more with this, bear with me if what I ask does not
>>>> make sense. I am in unfamiliar territory...
>>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to create mel frequency cepstral coefficients,
>>>> so I iterate over the bins in an fsig,
>>>> making a 32 band mel frequency spectrum (checking which band the
>>>> frequency of the bin belongs to and accumulating amplitudes for that
>>>> band).
>>>> I then take the log of the amps for each band.
>>>> Then I have an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
>>>> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands (this array is called
>>>> kMelCepsInput below),
>>>> and I try to do
>>>>       kMelCeps[] init    64
>>>>       kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput
>>>> which gives
>>>> error:  Unable to find opcode entry for 'ceps' with matching argument types:
>>>> Found: k[] ceps k[]
>>>> 
>>>> Should there be an extra argument to ceps?
>>>> I tried
>>>>       kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput, 32
>>>> but that gives
>>>> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>>>> 
>>>> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsInput   32
>>>> 
>>>> I do note the extra blank line in the error message (before the line
>>>> containing ceps), so perhaps this refers to another error (somehow
>>>> concealed in the blank line?)
>>>> 
>>>> Also do enlighten me if I'm going about this in a completely backwards fashion.
>>>> 
>>>> best
>>>> Oeyvind
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-04-24 14:04 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>> ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
>>>>>> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
>>>>>> coefficient is always zero?
>>>>>> If I do
>>>>>>      kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>>>>>>      kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>>>>>>      kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
>>>>>> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>>>>> Norway
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>>> Norway
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
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>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>> Norway
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>> 
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>>>> Professor of Music Technology
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>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> Norway
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> Norway
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Date2015-05-01 21:56
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: pvsceps
That was it, I had an array of size 64, with 65 it runs fine.
Thanks so much.

2015-05-01 11:16 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
> I had a look at the code:
>
> 1) ceps expects an array of N/2+1 magnitudes, where N is your FFT size (pow-of-two)
> 2) it is designed to work with mags, which in turn is designed to work with rfft
> 3) you can use other sources, provided that you supply the input in the format
> it expects: magnitudes for non-negative freqs, from 0Hz to Nyquist inclusive.
> (input array needs to be pow-of-two+1 size)
>
> So, here's an example with rfft
>
> ksig[] init 1024
> ...
> kout[] ceps mags(rfft(ksig)), 10
>
> Note that the Csound fft implementation seems to need at least 64 samples to
> work properly, so you need to have at least 65 magnitudes in the input.
>
> I will write a proper example soon.
>
> Regards
> ========================
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>
>> On 1 May 2015, at 00:43, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>
>> .. and the same error if I use fft instead of rfft (might be obvious,
>> but I tried just to be sure).
>>
>> No hurry, I'm calling it a day now. Will pick it up again sometime
>> during the weekend.
>>
>>
>> 2015-05-01 1:41 GMT+02:00 Oeyvind Brandtsegg :
>>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>>> I tried
>>>        kMelCeps[] init    64
>>>        kMelCepsIn[] init    64
>>>        kMelCepsIn              rfft kMelCepsInput
>>>        kMelCeps                ceps kMelCepsIn, 16
>>> where kCepsInput is an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
>>> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands.
>>>
>>> Still I get
>>> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>>>
>>> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsIn      16
>>>
>>>
>>> Should the input to rfft be the amps only, or the amp, freq pairs ?
>>> Also, perhaps there is something else wrong in my code that triggers
>>> the init error? The sizes of the arrays or something?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-05-01 1:11 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>> ceps needs a spectrum calculated with rfft, and the second argument is the number of coefficients kept.
>>>>
>>>> Something like this
>>>>
>>>> kfft[] rfft ksigarray
>>>> kceps[] ceps kfft, inumcoeffs
>>>>
>>>> I have not had time to prepare a full example yet, but I will do.
>>>>
>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland
>>>>
>>>>> On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:59, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm experimenting more with this, bear with me if what I ask does not
>>>>> make sense. I am in unfamiliar territory...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to create mel frequency cepstral coefficients,
>>>>> so I iterate over the bins in an fsig,
>>>>> making a 32 band mel frequency spectrum (checking which band the
>>>>> frequency of the bin belongs to and accumulating amplitudes for that
>>>>> band).
>>>>> I then take the log of the amps for each band.
>>>>> Then I have an array of size 64, with alternating amp and freq values
>>>>> for each of the 32 mel frequency bands (this array is called
>>>>> kMelCepsInput below),
>>>>> and I try to do
>>>>>       kMelCeps[] init    64
>>>>>       kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput
>>>>> which gives
>>>>> error:  Unable to find opcode entry for 'ceps' with matching argument types:
>>>>> Found: k[] ceps k[]
>>>>>
>>>>> Should there be an extra argument to ceps?
>>>>> I tried
>>>>>       kMelCeps   ceps kMelCepsInput, 32
>>>>> but that gives
>>>>> INIT ERROR in instr 2: non-pow-of-two case not implemented yet
>>>>>
>>>>> kMelCeps        ceps    kMelCepsInput   32
>>>>>
>>>>> I do note the extra blank line in the error message (before the line
>>>>> containing ceps), so perhaps this refers to another error (somehow
>>>>> concealed in the blank line?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also do enlighten me if I'm going about this in a completely backwards fashion.
>>>>>
>>>>> best
>>>>> Oeyvind
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-04-24 14:04 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>> ceps takes in an array of mags + freqs/phases and outputs the cepstrum. iceps does the inverse, takes a cepstrum and returns an array of mags + freqs/phases.  The only thing is that freq/phases are lost in the process, so only the mag data is relevant in the iceps output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 12:24, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good. Just to remind me, what does ceps and iceps do?
>>>>>>> Is it conversion between an array of amplitudes and a cepstrum?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, forgive my ignorance, but is it normal that the second cepstrum
>>>>>>> coefficient is always zero?
>>>>>>> If I do
>>>>>>>      kCeps[]   init    giFftTabSize
>>>>>>>      kCeps     pvsceps fsin
>>>>>>>      kceps_b2 = kCeps[1]
>>>>>>> the value of kceps_b2 is zero
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 13:07 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>> Same for ceps btw but with an array input instead of fsig, containing pv data and a required parameter for coeffs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> iceps is array to array, but I will change its name to cepsinv to avoid conflicts in the next release. It was an oversight to give it a name starting with i
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 11:52, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wonderful, thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 12:36 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>>>> yes that's it but with an extra liftering optional parameter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> karr[] pvsceps  fsig[, icoefs]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> where icoefs is the number of preserved coefficients, which defaults to all coefs (no liftering)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:41, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, just the syntax for pvsceps would be swell. Guessing
>>>>>>>>>>> something like
>>>>>>>>>>> kArr pvsceps fsig
>>>>>>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Victor Lazzarini :
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like there are no pages for these. I will try to fix that. I'll get back with the info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 09:47, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is the syntax for using pvsceps?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also interested in the same for iceps and ceps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>>     https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>>     https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>>>> NTNU
>>>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>      https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>>> NTNU
>>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>>> Norway
>>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>>
>>>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>       https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Csound-users mailing list
>>>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>> NTNU
>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>> Norway
>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>
>>> http://flyndresang.no/
>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>> Professor of Music Technology
>> NTNU
>> 7491 Trondheim
>> Norway
>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>
>> http://flyndresang.no/
>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
>> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg
>> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-users mailing list
>> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
>> Send bugs reports to
>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-users mailing list
> Csound-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-users
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here