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Chowning's _Stria_ Recomposed with Python and Csound (CMJ)

Date2007-09-12 15:16
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectChowning's _Stria_ Recomposed with Python and Csound (CMJ)
Csounders will be gratified to learn that the current issue of Computer Music Journal (Fall 2007) contains an article by Olivier Baudouin on his (higher-resolution) reconstruction of John Chowning's important composition _Stria_, re-implemented using Csound 5.02 with Python 2.4 on Ubuntu. The software has a GUI for providing the user with interactive options for changing some parameters of the piece and re-rendering it.

The article promises that the code and soundfiles for the reconstructed _Stria_ will be available online but, as often seems to be the case with such claims, they are not.

Regards,
Mike



Date2007-09-13 18:52
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: Chowning's _Stria_ Recomposed with Python and Csound (CMJ)
Hi,
Can the author be contacted to remind him? I'm sure many here would like 
to hear / see the piece.

This post makes me think two things:

First, when a music piece is software, it's interesting that it may no 
longer music in the legal sense, but software, so copyrights apply, but 
not performance or editorial rights... So actually even if the piece is 
originally by Chowning, the new version could be considered entirely by 
Baudouin, since all he did was write software, and is not violating 
copyright per se....

The other thing this got me thinking is that Csound seems to be the only 
computer software which has an interest (both in the software and in the 
community around it) in preservation of history. Most other languages 
and programs are ever advancing software which tends not to look back, 
and many like pd and supercollider, since they are mostly real-time 
oriented tend not to produce "tangible" or "fixable" pieces....

Cheers,
Andres

Michael Gogins escribió:
> Csounders will be gratified to learn that the current issue of Computer Music Journal (Fall 2007) contains an article by Olivier Baudouin on his (higher-resolution) reconstruction of John Chowning's important composition _Stria_, re-implemented using Csound 5.02 with Python 2.4 on Ubuntu. The software has a GUI for providing the user with interactive options for changing some parameters of the piece and re-rendering it.
>
> The article promises that the code and soundfiles for the reconstructed _Stria_ will be available online but, as often seems to be the case with such claims, they are not.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>   

Date2007-09-13 22:52
Fromrasputin
SubjectRe: Chowning's _Stria_ Recomposed with Python and Csound (CMJ)
Andres Cabrera wrote:
Hi, Can the author be contacted to remind him? I'm sure many here would like to hear / see the piece.
I would sure like to see the code as well.
Andres Cabrera wrote:
This post makes me think two things: First, when a music piece is software, it's interesting that it may no longer music in the legal sense, but software, so copyrights apply, but not performance or editorial rights... So actually even if the piece is originally by Chowning, the new version could be considered entirely by Baudouin, since all he did was write software, and is not violating copyright per se....
This reminds me discussions I occasionally read of producers who are in love with a particular sample or loop but can't get clearance to use it in a project. They can actually re-create the sample from scratch and it is then their IP and doesn't violate the original's copyright. In fact if I remember correctly, there was an article in Sound On Sound some years ago about a couple of guys whose business it was to recreate samples for this exact reason.
Andres Cabrera wrote:
The other thing this got me thinking is that Csound seems to be the only computer software which has an interest (both in the software and in the community around it) in preservation of history. Most other languages and programs are ever advancing software which tends not to look back, and many like pd and supercollider, since they are mostly real-time oriented tend not to produce "tangible" or "fixable" pieces....
Food for thought. Ever since I started with my first electronic music set up (using MIDI and hardware synths) around 1993 it always bothered me that I wouldn't necessarily be able to revisit old pieces and re-arrange/edit/continue working on them. But to 95% success, you can run an old Csound piece and it will work. (I examples I've seen in the distro and CSound book date to the 1990s.) SuperCollider (and now ChucK) are intriguing but it's true that they seem to be aimed at a different style of composition/performance. ...r...

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Date2007-09-13 23:20
From"Steven Yi"
SubjectRe: Chowning's _Stria_ Recomposed with Python and Csound (CMJ)
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Date2007-09-14 13:21
Fromobaudouin
SubjectRe: Chowning's _Stria_ Recomposed with Python and Csound (CMJ)
Dear Csounders,

Stria files for its reconstruction should be online in a few days : I just
have to check my programs and to write the handbook before uploading. I'll
send you a post when it will be available.

Regards,

Olivier Baudouin.



Michael Gogins wrote:
> 
> Csounders will be gratified to learn that the current issue of Computer
> Music Journal (Fall 2007) contains an article by Olivier Baudouin on his
> (higher-resolution) reconstruction of John Chowning's important
> composition _Stria_, re-implemented using Csound 5.02 with Python 2.4 on
> Ubuntu. The software has a GUI for providing the user with interactive
> options for changing some parameters of the piece and re-rendering it.
> 
> The article promises that the code and soundfiles for the reconstructed
> _Stria_ will be available online but, as often seems to be the case with
> such claims, they are not.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Date2007-09-14 14:03
From"Andres Cabrera"
SubjectRe: Chowning's _Stria_ Recomposed with Python and Csound (CMJ)
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