Ah, oops, in that sentence I  was going to say the 1.5 setting reminds
me of an old GM synth sound, maybe scifi?  Then I didn't quite finish
rewriting that sentence. :P
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:15 PM Steven Yi  wrote:
>
> Sure!  I've attached a version here that's a bit simpler to read as it takes out all of the supporting UDOs and has just the ShimmerReverb code.  The audio input using the inch opcode is done inline within that instr.  (Be careful about feedback!)  It's also nice to try using different iratio values like 0.5 to hear a downward transpose, or "iratio = cent(200)" to hear transpositions every whole-step up, "iratio = cent(400)" for major 3rd's up, etc.  (1.5 for perfect fifths reminds is quite lovely :) )
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:13 PM Richard  wrote:
> >
> > Very nice! Can this be used with live audio as well?
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > On 21/08/18 21:24, Steven Yi wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I was inspired to look at shimmer reverbs after reading a post on CDM
> > > about SineVibes' Luminance plugin.  I've posted a CSD and MP3 example
> > > of what I came up with using reverbsc and an FFT-based pitchshifter:
> > >
> > > http://kunstmusik.com/2018/08/21/shimmer-reverb/
> > >
> > > I had tried using a time domain based approach such as in Luminance
> > > and Jeanette C's m_reverb, but couldn't quite get the sound I was
> > > after. I ended up trying an FFT-based pitch shifter and was really
> > > happy with the results and stuck with it, which is the version posted
> > > in the link above.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > > steven
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Oh, and one more quick modification to use tanh() to reduce some
clipping (this version uses 1.5 for the iratio).
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:16 PM Steven Yi  wrote:
>
> Ah, oops, in that sentence I  was going to say the 1.5 setting reminds
> me of an old GM synth sound, maybe scifi?  Then I didn't quite finish
> rewriting that sentence. :P
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:15 PM Steven Yi  wrote:
> >
> > Sure!  I've attached a version here that's a bit simpler to read as it takes out all of the supporting UDOs and has just the ShimmerReverb code.  The audio input using the inch opcode is done inline within that instr.  (Be careful about feedback!)  It's also nice to try using different iratio values like 0.5 to hear a downward transpose, or "iratio = cent(200)" to hear transpositions every whole-step up, "iratio = cent(400)" for major 3rd's up, etc.  (1.5 for perfect fifths reminds is quite lovely :) )
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:13 PM Richard  wrote:
> > >
> > > Very nice! Can this be used with live audio as well?
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
> > > On 21/08/18 21:24, Steven Yi wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I was inspired to look at shimmer reverbs after reading a post on CDM
> > > > about SineVibes' Luminance plugin.  I've posted a CSD and MP3 example
> > > > of what I came up with using reverbsc and an FFT-based pitchshifter:
> > > >
> > > > http://kunstmusik.com/2018/08/21/shimmer-reverb/
> > > >
> > > > I had tried using a time domain based approach such as in Luminance
> > > > and Jeanette C's m_reverb, but couldn't quite get the sound I was
> > > > after. I ended up trying an FFT-based pitch shifter and was really
> > > > happy with the results and stuck with it, which is the version posted
> > > > in the link above.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > > steven
> > > >
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Hi Dr. B,

Glad you're enjoying it!  I think it'd make sense to make this into a
UDO, but making it into a C opcode might not be so good since it'd
sort of set it in stone. My own take is that it'd have more value as a
UDO since users could modify it easily, say to replace the reverb with
freeverb or nreverb or some other custom code; maybe swap out to
linear interpolating delay lines; swap out the pitch shifter; make the
delay ping-pong between the channels; etc.

I'll look at making this a commented .udo file with test .csd and
upload it to the my libsyi project.  (I'll reply here when that's
ready.)

Thanks!
steven

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 9:16 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger
 wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> Thanks for the beautiful new shimmer reverb. (And the inspiring, musical and super clear .csd - a super model).
>
> Jeanette C's m_verb is very nice too!  Thanks for the links to her UDOs.
>
> Both of these reverbs would make useful opcodes and find frequent use - as would many "modules" from your UDO collection.
>
> Any chance for adding them as opcodes someday?  Hope so.
>
> Best,
>
> Dr.B.
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> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and one more quick modification to use tanh() to reduce some
>> clipping (this version uses 1.5 for the iratio).
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:16 PM Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >
>> > Ah, oops, in that sentence I  was going to say the 1.5 setting reminds
>> > me of an old GM synth sound, maybe scifi?  Then I didn't quite finish
>> > rewriting that sentence. :P
>> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:15 PM Steven Yi  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Sure!  I've attached a version here that's a bit simpler to read as it takes out all of the supporting UDOs and has just the ShimmerReverb code.  The audio input using the inch opcode is done inline within that instr.  (Be careful about feedback!)  It's also nice to try using different iratio values like 0.5 to hear a downward transpose, or "iratio = cent(200)" to hear transpositions every whole-step up, "iratio = cent(400)" for major 3rd's up, etc.  (1.5 for perfect fifths reminds is quite lovely :) )
>> > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:13 PM Richard  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Very nice! Can this be used with live audio as well?
>> > > >
>> > > > Richard
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 21/08/18 21:24, Steven Yi wrote:
>> > > > > Hi All,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I was inspired to look at shimmer reverbs after reading a post on CDM
>> > > > > about SineVibes' Luminance plugin.  I've posted a CSD and MP3 example
>> > > > > of what I came up with using reverbsc and an FFT-based pitchshifter:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://kunstmusik.com/2018/08/21/shimmer-reverb/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I had tried using a time domain based approach such as in Luminance
>> > > > > and Jeanette C's m_reverb, but couldn't quite get the sound I was
>> > > > > after. I ended up trying an FFT-based pitch shifter and was really
>> > > > > happy with the results and stuck with it, which is the version posted
>> > > > > in the link above.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Enjoy!
>> > > > > steven
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Csound mailing list
>> > > > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > > > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
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I am trying to add more of the original signal to the output, but as soon as
I do that, there is no sound at all...

Like so:
out((ain*.5 + al*.7)/1.2, (ain*.5 + ar.*7)/1.2)

How is that possible? Some kind of cancellation?

Richard



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Never mind, it was a syntax error on my side...

Richard


On 26/08/18 11:34, zappfinger wrote:
> I am trying to add more of the original signal to the output, but as soon as
> I do that, there is no sound at all...
>
> Like so:
> out((ain*.5 + al*.7)/1.2, (ain*.5 + ar.*7)/1.2)
>
> How is that possible? Some kind of cancellation?
>
> Richard
>
>
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This is weird. I am using ShimmerReverb in a Cabbage patch that also includes some filtering in a first instrument.
The output of this instrument is patched via the zak opcodes to the ShimmerReverb instrument.
When I use alwayson "ShimmerReverb" it does not work (the first instrument is started from the score).
Only when I start ShimmerReverb from the score also it works. It seems that alwayson has no effect.
I have this now in the score (that works):

i "ShimmerReverb"  0 [60*60*24*7]
i1 0 [60*60*24*7]

Any idea?

Richard

I am trying to add more of the original signal to the output, but as soon as
I do that, there is no sound at all...

Like so:
out((ain*.5 + al*.7)/1.2, (ain*.5 + ar.*7)/1.2)

How is that possible? Some kind of cancellation?

Richard



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I think the issue is that Csound needs to be put into server mode or
needs an active, non-held event, or a pending event in the scheduler,
to keep running.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 5:32 PM Rory Walsh  wrote:
>
> Do you get an error when using alwayson? That particular opcode library may be causing an issue. No fault of Mike's, but there may be an issue with its use in Cabbage?
>
> On Sun 26 Aug 2018, 22:46 Richard,  wrote:
>>
>> This is weird. I am using ShimmerReverb in a Cabbage patch that also includes some filtering in a first instrument.
>> The output of this instrument is patched via the zak opcodes to the ShimmerReverb instrument.
>> When I use alwayson "ShimmerReverb" it does not work (the first instrument is started from the score).
>> Only when I start ShimmerReverb from the score also it works. It seems that alwayson has no effect.
>> I have this now in the score (that works):
>>
>> i "ShimmerReverb"  0 [60*60*24*7]
>> i1 0 [60*60*24*7]
>>
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> On 26/08/18 11:34, zappfinger wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to add more of the original signal to the output, but as soon as
>> I do that, there is no sound at all...
>>
>> Like so:
>> out((ain*.5 + al*.7)/1.2, (ain*.5 + ar.*7)/1.2)
>>
>> How is that possible? Some kind of cancellation?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
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