Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.

I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.

Thanks very much for your suggestion.

I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.

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ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you mean? 32 should be just
fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin  wrote:
> 
> Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
> 
> I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
> 
> Thanks very much for your suggestion.
> 
> I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
> 
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actually it is not required that sr is a multiple of ksmps.  usually a 
power of 2 works best, so 32, 64 or 128, regardless the sample rate.

other important settings are software and hardware buffer size (-b and 
-B).  in your original options you had -b32 which is certainly too 
small.  if you use csoundqt, you can set it in the configure > run tab: 
http://csoundqt.github.io/pages/configuring-csoundqt.html

in your jack options you must assure that frames/buffer is big enough, too.

best -
	joachim



On 23/12/18 15:45, Ed Cashin wrote:
> Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>
> I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>
> Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>
> I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>
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I think -b32 should be fine with Jack. 

Victor Lazzarini
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Ireland

> On 23 Dec 2018, at 16:32, joachim heintz  wrote:
> 
> actually it is not required that sr is a multiple of ksmps.  usually a power of 2 works best, so 32, 64 or 128, regardless the sample rate.
> 
> other important settings are software and hardware buffer size (-b and -B).  in your original options you had -b32 which is certainly too small.  if you use csoundqt, you can set it in the configure > run tab: http://csoundqt.github.io/pages/configuring-csoundqt.html
> 
> in your jack options you must assure that frames/buffer is big enough, too.
> 
> best -
>    joachim
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23/12/18 15:45, Ed Cashin wrote:
>> Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>> 
>> I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>> 
>> Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>> 
>> I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>> 
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but only if ksmps is then also smaller or equal 32, right?



On 23/12/18 17:36, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> I think -b32 should be fine with Jack.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 23 Dec 2018, at 16:32, joachim heintz  wrote:
>>
>> actually it is not required that sr is a multiple of ksmps.  usually a power of 2 works best, so 32, 64 or 128, regardless the sample rate.
>>
>> other important settings are software and hardware buffer size (-b and -B).  in your original options you had -b32 which is certainly too small.  if you use csoundqt, you can set it in the configure > run tab: http://csoundqt.github.io/pages/configuring-csoundqt.html
>>
>> in your jack options you must assure that frames/buffer is big enough, too.
>>
>> best -
>>    joachim
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 23/12/18 15:45, Ed Cashin wrote:
>>> Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>>>
>>> I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>>>
>>> I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>>>
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I guess so

Victor Lazzarini
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> On 23 Dec 2018, at 16:45, joachim heintz  wrote:
> 
> but only if ksmps is then also smaller or equal 32, right?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23/12/18 17:36, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> I think -b32 should be fine with Jack.
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2018, at 16:32, joachim heintz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> actually it is not required that sr is a multiple of ksmps.  usually a power of 2 works best, so 32, 64 or 128, regardless the sample rate.
>>> 
>>> other important settings are software and hardware buffer size (-b and -B).  in your original options you had -b32 which is certainly too small.  if you use csoundqt, you can set it in the configure > run tab: http://csoundqt.github.io/pages/configuring-csoundqt.html
>>> 
>>> in your jack options you must assure that frames/buffer is big enough, too.
>>> 
>>> best -
>>>   joachim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23/12/18 15:45, Ed Cashin wrote:
>>>> Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>>>> 
>>>> I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>>>> 
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I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw earlier,
so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused.  Thanks
again.

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
>
> ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you mean? 32 should be just
> fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin  wrote:
> >
> > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
> >
> > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
> >
> > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
> >
> > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
> >
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Hi, Rory Walsh!

Yes, I intend to explore that option for sure.  That possibility was
so motivating that it inspired me to get the csound book and to learn
the language.  Right now I'm moving from first principles toward
useful components in minimal steps, starting from the documentation
examples.

For moving to Cabbage, I think the next hurdle will be installing
JUCE, but maybe it will be easy!

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM Rory Walsh  wrote:
>
> You could always just load Csound IN Renoise as a Linux VST.
>
> On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 20:37 Ed Cashin >
>> I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw earlier,
>> so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused.  Thanks
>> again.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you mean? 32 should be just
>> > fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>> >
>> > Victor Lazzarini
>> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> > Maynooth University
>> > Ireland
>> >
>> > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>> > >
>> > > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>> > >
>> > > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>> > >
>> > > Csound mailing list
>> > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> > > Send bugs reports to
>> > >        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>
>>
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It autos be easy enough to build cabbage for Linux. If you've any issues post on the cabbage forum 👍 there are plenty of Linux users there. 

On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 21:31 Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net wrote:

Hi, Rory Walsh!

Yes, I intend to explore that option for sure.  That possibility was
so motivating that it inspired me to get the csound book and to learn
the language.  Right now I'm moving from first principles toward
useful components in minimal steps, starting from the documentation
examples.

For moving to Cabbage, I think the next hurdle will be installing
JUCE, but maybe it will be easy!

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>
> You could always just load Csound IN Renoise as a Linux VST.
>
> On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 20:37 Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net wrote:
>>
>> I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw earlier,
>> so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused.  Thanks
>> again.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
>> <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>> >
>> > ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you mean? 32 should be just
>> > fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>> >
>> > Victor Lazzarini
>> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> > Maynooth University
>> > Ireland
>> >
>> > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>> > >
>> > > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>> > >
>> > > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>> > >
>> > > Csound mailing list
>> > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> > > Send bugs reports to
>> > >        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
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i was always thinking that latin is much more appropriate for 
programming compared to english.  i think rory is approaching latin from 
ancient greek where "autos" means "self".  so my translation would be: 
'as long as you want to be yourself, build cabbage for linux.'

marry christmas =)
	j



On 24/12/18 10:09, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> "It autos"?
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 24 Dec 2018, at 08:41, Rory Walsh  > wrote:
>
>> It autos be easy enough to build cabbage for Linux. If you've any
>> issues post on the cabbage forum 👍 there are plenty of Linux users
>> there.
>>
>> On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 21:31 Ed Cashin >  wrote:
>>
>>     Hi, Rory Walsh!
>>
>>     Yes, I intend to explore that option for sure.  That possibility was
>>     so motivating that it inspired me to get the csound book and to learn
>>     the language.  Right now I'm moving from first principles toward
>>     useful components in minimal steps, starting from the documentation
>>     examples.
>>
>>     For moving to Cabbage, I think the next hurdle will be installing
>>     JUCE, but maybe it will be easy!
>>
>>     On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM Rory Walsh >     > wrote:
>>     >
>>     > You could always just load Csound IN Renoise as a Linux VST.
>>     >
>>     > On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 20:37 Ed Cashin >      wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >> I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw
>>     earlier,
>>     >> so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused.
>>     Thanks
>>     >> again.
>>     >>
>>     >> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
>>     >> > wrote:
>>     >> >
>>     >> > ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you
>>     mean? 32 should be just
>>     >> > fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>>     >> >
>>     >> > Victor Lazzarini
>>     >> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>     >> > Maynooth University
>>     >> > Ireland
>>     >> >
>>     >> > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin >     > wrote:
>>     >> > >
>>     >> > > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>>     >> > >
>>     >> > > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of
>>     that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>>     >> > >
>>     >> > > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>>     >> > >
>>     >> > > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book
>>     I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very
>>     helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>>     >> > >
>>     >> > > Csound mailing list
>>     >> > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie 
>>     >> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>     >> > > Send bugs reports to
>>     >> > >        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>     >> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>     >> >
>>     >> > Csound mailing list
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>>     >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
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>>     >> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
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>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> --
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That is the spirit

Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 24 Dec 2018, at 09:43, joachim heintz  wrote:
> 
> i was always thinking that latin is much more appropriate for programming compared to english.  i think rory is approaching latin from ancient greek where "autos" means "self".  so my translation would be: 'as long as you want to be yourself, build cabbage for linux.'
> 
> marry christmas =)
>    j
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24/12/18 10:09, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> "It autos"?
>> 
>> Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>> On 24 Dec 2018, at 08:41, Rory Walsh > > wrote:
>> 
>>> It autos be easy enough to build cabbage for Linux. If you've any
>>> issues post on the cabbage forum 👍 there are plenty of Linux users
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 21:31 Ed Cashin >>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Hi, Rory Walsh!
>>> 
>>>    Yes, I intend to explore that option for sure.  That possibility was
>>>    so motivating that it inspired me to get the csound book and to learn
>>>    the language.  Right now I'm moving from first principles toward
>>>    useful components in minimal steps, starting from the documentation
>>>    examples.
>>> 
>>>    For moving to Cabbage, I think the next hurdle will be installing
>>>    JUCE, but maybe it will be easy!
>>> 
>>>    On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM Rory Walsh >>    > wrote:
>>>    >
>>>    > You could always just load Csound IN Renoise as a Linux VST.
>>>    >
>>>    > On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 20:37 Ed Cashin >>     wrote:
>>>    >>
>>>    >> I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw
>>>    earlier,
>>>    >> so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused.
>>>    Thanks
>>>    >> again.
>>>    >>
>>>    >> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
>>>    >> > wrote:
>>>    >> >
>>>    >> > ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you
>>>    mean? 32 should be just
>>>    >> > fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>>>    >> >
>>>    >> > Victor Lazzarini
>>>    >> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>>    >> > Maynooth University
>>>    >> > Ireland
>>>    >> >
>>>    >> > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin >>    > wrote:
>>>    >> > >
>>>    >> > > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>>>    >> > >
>>>    >> > > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of
>>>    that.  I used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>>>    >> > >
>>>    >> > > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>>>    >> > >
>>>    >> > > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book
>>>    I'm enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very
>>>    helpful in tying the whole world of csound together for me.
>>>    >> > >
>>>    >> > > Csound mailing list
>>>    >> > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie 
>>>    >> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>    >> > > Send bugs reports to
>>>    >> > >        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>    >> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>    >> >
>>>    >> > Csound mailing list
>>>    >> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie 
>>>    >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>    >> > Send bugs reports to
>>>    >> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>    >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>    >>
>>>    >>
>>>    >>
>>>    >> --
>>>    >>   Ed Cashin >
>>>    >>
>>>    >> Csound mailing list
>>>    >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie 
>>>    >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>    >> Send bugs reports to
>>>    >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>    >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>    >
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>>>    
>>>    https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports
>>>    to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and
>>>    features can be posted here
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>      Ed Cashin >
>>> 
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Ought to?

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On Dec 24, 2018, 08:42, at 08:42, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>It autos be easy enough to build cabbage for Linux. If you've any
>issues
>post on the cabbage forum 👍 there are plenty of Linux users there.
>
>On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 21:31 Ed Cashin 
>> Hi, Rory Walsh!
>>
>> Yes, I intend to explore that option for sure.  That possibility was
>> so motivating that it inspired me to get the csound book and to learn
>> the language.  Right now I'm moving from first principles toward
>> useful components in minimal steps, starting from the documentation
>> examples.
>>
>> For moving to Cabbage, I think the next hurdle will be installing
>> JUCE, but maybe it will be easy!
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> >
>> > You could always just load Csound IN Renoise as a Linux VST.
>> >
>> > On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 20:37 Ed Cashin > >>
>> >> I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw
>earlier,
>> >> so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused. 
>Thanks
>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you
>mean? 32
>> should be just
>> >> > fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Victor Lazzarini
>> >> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> >> > Maynooth University
>> >> > Ireland
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin 
>wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of
>that.  I
>> used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm
>> enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in
>tying
>> the whole world of csound together for me.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Csound mailing list
>> >> > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> > > Send bugs reports to
>> >> > >        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >
>> >> > Csound mailing list
>> >> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> > Send bugs reports to
>> >> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>   Ed Cashin 
>> >>
>> >> Csound mailing list
>> >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >
>> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and
>features
>> can be posted here
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   Ed Cashin 
>>
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>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>
>
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Yes, that's what I mentally edited it to: "ought to."  I did build JUCE, but it wasn't easy.  I will post about the subsequent build errors for cabbage in the cabbage forum as the README suggests.

It's funny: For some use cases, I really think I'd *prefer* a single plain-text csound source file that has a collection of MIDI-aware instruments for use with a specific song.  For others, the plugin way to go is much more convenient (e.g., cases where there are a lot of effects that are inconvenient to render to samples).

Thanks, everyone, for all the help.

 

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 7:07 AM John ff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:

Ought to?

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On Dec 24, 2018, 08:42, at 08:42, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>It autos be easy enough to build cabbage for Linux. If you've any
>issues
>post on the cabbage forum 👍 there are plenty of Linux users there.
>
>On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 21:31 Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net wrote:
>
>> Hi, Rory Walsh!
>>
>> Yes, I intend to explore that option for sure.  That possibility was
>> so motivating that it inspired me to get the csound book and to learn
>> the language.  Right now I'm moving from first principles toward
>> useful components in minimal steps, starting from the documentation
>> examples.
>>
>> For moving to Cabbage, I think the next hurdle will be installing
>> JUCE, but maybe it will be easy!
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> >
>> > You could always just load Csound IN Renoise as a Linux VST.
>> >
>> > On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 20:37 Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw
>earlier,
>> >> so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused.
>Thanks
>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
>> >> <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you
>mean? 32
>> should be just
>> >> > fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Victor Lazzarini
>> >> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> >> > Maynooth University
>> >> > Ireland
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net>
>wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of
>that.  I
>> used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm
>> enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in
>tying
>> the whole world of csound together for me.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Csound mailing list
>> >> > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> > > Send bugs reports to
>> >> > >        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >
>> >> > Csound mailing list
>> >> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> > Send bugs reports to
>> >> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>   Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net>
>> >>
>> >> Csound mailing list
>> >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >
>> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and
>features
>> can be posted here
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net>
>>
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>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>
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You lot auto have known what I was talking about! 🤣🤣

On Mon 24 Dec 2018, 14:37 Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net wrote:

Thanks for the tip! I think that if I don’t want GUIs and don’t plan to distribute plugins for non-Linux platforms, that could be an interesting option to consider.

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 8:06 AM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

There's csladspa as well, which is an alternative for linux

Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 24 Dec 2018, at 13:04, Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net> wrote:

Yes, that's what I mentally edited it to: "ought to."  I did build JUCE, but it wasn't easy.  I will post about the subsequent build errors for cabbage in the cabbage forum as the README suggests.

It's funny: For some use cases, I really think I'd *prefer* a single plain-text csound source file that has a collection of MIDI-aware instruments for use with a specific song.  For others, the plugin way to go is much more convenient (e.g., cases where there are a lot of effects that are inconvenient to render to samples).

Thanks, everyone, for all the help.

 

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 7:07 AM John ff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:

Ought to?

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On Dec 24, 2018, 08:42, at 08:42, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>It autos be easy enough to build cabbage for Linux. If you've any
>issues
>post on the cabbage forum 👍 there are plenty of Linux users there.
>
>On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 21:31 Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net wrote:
>
>> Hi, Rory Walsh!
>>
>> Yes, I intend to explore that option for sure.  That possibility was
>> so motivating that it inspired me to get the csound book and to learn
>> the language.  Right now I'm moving from first principles toward
>> useful components in minimal steps, starting from the documentation
>> examples.
>>
>> For moving to Cabbage, I think the next hurdle will be installing
>> JUCE, but maybe it will be easy!
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 2:44 PM Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>> >
>> > You could always just load Csound IN Renoise as a Linux VST.
>> >
>> > On Sun 23 Dec 2018, 20:37 Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was mistaken in my interpretation of an error message I saw
>earlier,
>> >> so I won't dwell on what I meant, because I was just confused.
>Thanks
>> >> again.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:27 AM Victor Lazzarini
>> >> <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > ksmps does not need to be a multiple of the sr. What did you
>mean? 32
>> should be just
>> >> > fine. In fact it's the size of your IO buffer as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Victor Lazzarini
>> >> > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>> >> > Maynooth University
>> >> > Ireland
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 23 Dec 2018, at 14:46, Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net>
>wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Yes!  That was it!  Now I'm back on track.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I couldn't use 32 ksmps, because 96000 isn't a multiple of
>that.  I
>> used 48, though, and now it sounds much better.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks very much for your suggestion.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I'll go ahead and thank you as well for writing the book I'm
>> enjoying now.  It has been a pleasure to read, and very helpful in
>tying
>> the whole world of csound together for me.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Csound mailing list
>> >> > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> > > Send bugs reports to
>> >> > >        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >> >
>> >> > Csound mailing list
>> >> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> > Send bugs reports to
>> >> >         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>   Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net>
>> >>
>> >> Csound mailing list
>> >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> >> Send bugs reports to
>> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> >
>> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and
>features
>> can be posted here
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   Ed Cashin <ecashin@noserose.net>
>>
>> Csound mailing list
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>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>
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