CsoundVST is both (a) a VST plugin version of Csound that does seem now to work with most hosts (and I think it works with WINE on Linux as well and (b) a standalone GUI frontend for Csound that runs on both Windows and Linux.

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
>Sent: Apr 26, 2006 5:17 PM
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: [Csnd] 4.23 Manual
>
>If you were/are a linux user of Csound, there might not have seemed  
>to be many changes between
>Csound4 and Csound5 because Linux users typically ran Csound from the  
>commandline, but...
>
>If you are a Windows or Mac user of Csound, then there are many  
>changes in working with
>  the program.  It's all about that first hour  -  and it's all about  
>*flow.*  The muse is an elusive
>and *moody* mistress who waits for no mechanic to change the oil or  
>check the air in the tires.
>When she wants to dance, she expects the music to play.....
>
>Currently, csound5 is a mechanic's dream - not a musician's dream.
>
>All the new features are wonderful for sure, but what I am reading  
>and seeing on the list are a lot of *expert* users
>having a great deal of difficulty getting the program to compile and  
>run on their systems - or getting MIDI to work -
>or getting some of these exciting new packages to happen, etc....   
>there are a lot of environment variable
>headaches, dependencies, etc. that seem to be shaking themselves out.
>
>To me, it is sad to see that the club has gotten more exclusive  
>rather than inclusive.
>
>Over the next few weeks and months, I think we will see a WinSound5,  
>MacCsound5, CsoundAV5, emerge....
>And hopefully, we will see the misnamed CsoundVST that runs Csound 5  
>and works out of the box as a
>stand alone environment - renamed so that it doesn't cause confusion  
>to beginners as well.   For instance, is CsoundVST a VST
>version of Csound that runs on all platforms?  As a VST?  With all  
>commercial programs that support VST plugings?
>
>If not, then that is another Csound5 confusion.  The thrill of a VST  
>is the fact that it runs in any host that supports VST's
>but I don't think that this is what happens currently.
>
>
>On Apr 26, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Hudson Lacerda wrote:
>
>> David Akbari escreveu:
>>> IMHO, it just boils down to the fact that there are not enough  
>>> frontends like MacCsound, CsoundAV (Csound 4), Lettuce, Cabel et  
>>> al (Csound 5) that composers can use "right out of the box" by  
>>> simply clicking on a few key elements.
>>
>> I've found this thread very odd til this exact point, because I  
>> never would guess that the ``growing pain'' could be in some  
>> difficult to use a command line tool...
>>
>> AFAIK, all the Csound4 features are included in Csound5, and more.  
>> Csound5, in the actual stage, has yet some problems, mainly tied to  
>> new features, but I think they will be solved soon.
>>
>> The only change I noted from Csound4, as a simple user I am, was  
>> that I need to add -+rtaudio=alsa to the command line for realtime  
>> processing.
>>
>> The real changes on old features are in its coding, in the internal  
>> design. Then, I think these changes affect only advanced users who  
>> compile customized and extended versions of CSound. But I hope  
>> these advanced users will be able to adapt, and use the possibility  
>> of create shared objects in their own advantage. I guess this is  
>> simpler than recompile an entire patched code.
>>
>> Best.
>>
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On Apr 26, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:

> (and I think it works with WINE on Linux as well

CsoundVST.exe works with WINE, however it also compiles and runs 
natively on Linux which may be preferable if realtime performance is an 
issue.

On Mac OS X, CsoundVST compiles everything correctly it just doesn't 
link properly.

It seems like it should a trivial fix... are there specific endianness 
#ifdef's or similar that exist ?


-David