Rory,

Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further observations:

1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. Wonderful.

2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before running Lettuce
either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's how I had
Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.

3) The Information window querying about saving before program exit is
bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved changes
(asterisk following filename as in Csedit).

4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) the last
file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this didn't
work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to autochange
itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of Csedit.)

5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File arrow? This
feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. Incidentally,
I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I sorely
missed in Csedit.

Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rory Walsh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions


> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we speak
> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to select both
> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select their own
> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. As far
> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only advantage I can
> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a standalone .exe,
> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's getting late
> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. Thanks
> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the software
> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>
> Rory.
>
>
>
>
> Art Hunkins wrote:
> > Hi, Rory,
> >
> > I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both WinXP
and
> > ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
editor.
> >
> > I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
> >
> > 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is fine). This
is
> > because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
error.)
> > It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
> >
> > 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button results in
this
> > error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to write to
this
> > folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 above?) I
see
> > no issue of permissions here.
> >
> > 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not black; so
we
> > have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
> > select/highlight text.
> >
> > 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
border
> > are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
which
> > shows slightly darker blue.
> >
> > 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the standalone
> > performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under File)
the
> > run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. Viewing the
> > performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
> >
> > I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is no FLTK
> > (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
designed
> > to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm at a
loss as
> > to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in Lettuce.
> >
> > Thanks again for a superb utility.
> >
> > Art Hunkins
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rory Walsh" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
> >
> >
> >> There is a version that supports double samples here
> >>
> >> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
> >>
> >> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let me know
if
> >> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
homepage
> >> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
> >>
> >> Rory.
> >>
> >> Marc Demers wrote:
> >>> Hi Rory,
> >>>
> >>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of Csound? I
use
> > it
> >>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I miss this
> > option
> >>> with the 5.02 version.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Marc
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem regarding
> >>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not sure
what
> >>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, there
> >>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the software only
> >>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then run
> > csound
> >>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one file open
at
> >>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have uploaded a
> >>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each of the
> >>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
> >>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I must do to
> >>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to email me
> >>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Rory.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris Share wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import orc+sco
> >>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the program I
> > get
> >>>>> the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is this a bug?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
> >>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
> >>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email address for
> > bug
> >>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris
> >>>> --
> >>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >> --
> >> Send bugs reports to this list.
> >> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
> --
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Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following improvements:

-Users can select colours for everything from text to message window....
-Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will appear if 
you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk will prompt a 
save command....
-Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish assumption 
that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 characters! This was 
causing the decode failed message to appear.
-It should now auto load the last saved file
-Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat files 
for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
-Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share for 
letting me know about that...

With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's hard to debug here as 
I don't have XP, are you sure that all files that came with Lettuce are 
set to normal mode and not read-only? I know what function is causing 
this, I just don't know why it only happens on ME. The .csd file you 
sent yesterday runs for me here, although I have no controller to check 
it out. Remember to set your settings once you install Lettuce otherwise 
it will keep saying "user setting reset to default", or something like 
that. I will look into your other suggestions soon. Later,
Rory.

Art Hunkins wrote:
> Rory,
> 
> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further observations:
> 
> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. Wonderful.
> 
> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before running Lettuce
> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's how I had
> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
> 
> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program exit is
> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved changes
> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
> 
> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) the last
> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this didn't
> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to autochange
> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of Csedit.)
> 
> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File arrow? This
> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. Incidentally,
> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I sorely
> missed in Csedit.
> 
> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
> 
> Art Hunkins
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
> 
> 
>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we speak
>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to select both
>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select their own
>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. As far
>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only advantage I can
>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a standalone .exe,
>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's getting late
>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. Thanks
>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the software
>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>
>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both WinXP
> and
>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
> editor.
>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>
>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is fine). This
> is
>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
> error.)
>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>
>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button results in
> this
>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to write to
> this
>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 above?) I
> see
>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>
>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not black; so
> we
>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>> select/highlight text.
>>>
>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
> border
>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
> which
>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>
>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the standalone
>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under File)
> the
>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. Viewing the
>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>
>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is no FLTK
>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
> designed
>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm at a
> loss as
>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in Lettuce.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>
>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>
>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let me know
> if
>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
> homepage
>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of Csound? I
> use
>>> it
>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I miss this
>>> option
>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem regarding
>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not sure
> what
>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, there
>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the software only
>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then run
>>> csound
>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one file open
> at
>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have uploaded a
>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each of the
>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I must do to
>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to email me
>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import orc+sco
>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the program I
>>> get
>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email address for
>>> bug
>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> --
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> --
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
> 

Hi Rory,

I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. Lettuce 
0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.

Thanks,

Marc


>From: Rory Walsh 
>Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>
>Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following improvements:
>
>-Users can select colours for everything from text to message window....
>-Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will appear if 
>you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk will prompt a save 
>command....
>-Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish assumption 
>that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 characters! This was causing 
>the decode failed message to appear.
>-It should now auto load the last saved file
>-Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat files for 
>those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>-Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share for 
>letting me know about that...
>
>With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's hard to debug here as I 
>don't have XP, are you sure that all files that came with Lettuce are set 
>to normal mode and not read-only? I know what function is causing this, I 
>just don't know why it only happens on ME. The .csd file you sent yesterday 
>runs for me here, although I have no controller to check it out. Remember 
>to set your settings once you install Lettuce otherwise it will keep saying 
>"user setting reset to default", or something like that. I will look into 
>your other suggestions soon. Later,
>Rory.
>
>Art Hunkins wrote:
>>Rory,
>>
>>Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further observations:
>>
>>1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. Wonderful.
>>
>>2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before running 
>>Lettuce
>>either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's how I had
>>Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>
>>3) The Information window querying about saving before program exit is
>>bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved changes
>>(asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>
>>4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) the last
>>file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this didn't
>>work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>autochange
>>itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of Csedit.)
>>
>>5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File arrow? This
>>feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>Incidentally,
>>I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I sorely
>>missed in Csedit.
>>
>>Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>
>>Art Hunkins
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>To: 
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>
>>
>>>Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we speak
>>>I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to select both
>>>the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select their own
>>>prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. As far
>>>as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only advantage I can
>>>see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a standalone .exe,
>>>and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's getting late
>>>here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. Thanks
>>>for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the software
>>>on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>
>>>Rory.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>Hi, Rory,
>>>>
>>>>I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both WinXP
>>and
>>>>ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>editor.
>>>>I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>
>>>>1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is fine). This
>>is
>>>>because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
>>error.)
>>>>It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>
>>>>2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button results in
>>this
>>>>error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to write to
>>this
>>>>folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 above?) I
>>see
>>>>no issue of permissions here.
>>>>
>>>>3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not black; so
>>we
>>>>have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>select/highlight text.
>>>>
>>>>4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>border
>>>>are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
>>which
>>>>shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>
>>>>5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the standalone
>>>>performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under File)
>>the
>>>>run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. Viewing the
>>>>performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>
>>>>I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is no FLTK
>>>>(I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>designed
>>>>to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm at a
>>loss as
>>>>to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in Lettuce.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>
>>>>Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>To: 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>
>>>>>rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>
>>>>>I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let me know
>>if
>>>>>there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>homepage
>>>>>yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>
>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>Hi Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of Csound? I
>>use
>>>>it
>>>>>>with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I miss this
>>>>option
>>>>>>with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Marc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>To: 
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem regarding
>>>>>>>list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not sure
>>what
>>>>>>>you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, there
>>>>>>>should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the software only
>>>>>>>runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then run
>>>>csound
>>>>>>>from the command line. At the moment one can only have one file open
>>at
>>>>>>>a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have uploaded a
>>>>>>>newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each of the
>>>>>>>toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I must do to
>>>>>>>recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to email me
>>>>>>>directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import orc+sco
>>>>>>>>command to work. When I try this command after opening the program I
>>>>get
>>>>>>>>the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
>>>>>>>>.orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
>>>>>>>>equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email address for
>>>>bug
>>>>>>>>reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>--
>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>--
>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>
>--
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Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the 
normal protocol?

mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Hi Rory,
> 
> I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. Lettuce 
> 0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
>> From: Rory Walsh 
>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>
>> Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>> improvements:
>>
>> -Users can select colours for everything from text to message window....
>> -Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will appear 
>> if you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk will 
>> prompt a save command....
>> -Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>> assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 characters! 
>> This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>> -It should now auto load the last saved file
>> -Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat files 
>> for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>> -Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share for 
>> letting me know about that...
>>
>> With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission 
>> to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's hard to debug 
>> here as I don't have XP, are you sure that all files that came with 
>> Lettuce are set to normal mode and not read-only? I know what function 
>> is causing this, I just don't know why it only happens on ME. The .csd 
>> file you sent yesterday runs for me here, although I have no 
>> controller to check it out. Remember to set your settings once you 
>> install Lettuce otherwise it will keep saying "user setting reset to 
>> default", or something like that. I will look into your other 
>> suggestions soon. Later,
>> Rory.
>>
>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>> Rory,
>>>
>>> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further observations:
>>>
>>> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. Wonderful.
>>>
>>> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before running 
>>> Lettuce
>>> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's how 
>>> I had
>>> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>
>>> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program exit is
>>> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved 
>>> changes
>>> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>
>>> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) the last
>>> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this didn't
>>> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>> autochange
>>> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of 
>>> Csedit.)
>>>
>>> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File arrow? This
>>> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>> Incidentally,
>>> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I 
>>> sorely
>>> missed in Csedit.
>>>
>>> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we speak
>>>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to select both
>>>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select their own
>>>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. As 
>>>> far
>>>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only advantage I 
>>>> can
>>>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a standalone 
>>>> .exe,
>>>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's getting 
>>>> late
>>>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the software
>>>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both WinXP
>>> and
>>>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>> editor.
>>>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is fine). 
>>>>> This
>>> is
>>>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
>>> error.)
>>>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button results in
>>> this
>>>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>>> write to
>>> this
>>>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 above?) I
>>> see
>>>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>> black; so
>>> we
>>>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>> select/highlight text.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>> border
>>>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
>>> which
>>>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the standalone
>>>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under File)
>>> the
>>>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. 
>>>>> Viewing the
>>>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is no 
>>>>> FLTK
>>>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>> designed
>>>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm at a
>>> loss as
>>>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in Lettuce.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let me know
>>> if
>>>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>> homepage
>>>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of Csound? I
>>> use
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I miss 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>> option
>>>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not sure
>>> what
>>>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, there
>>>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the software 
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then run
>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one file 
>>>>>>>> open
>>> at
>>>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>> uploaded a
>>>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each of 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I must 
>>>>>>>> do to
>>>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to 
>>>>>>>> email me
>>>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import 
>>>>>>>>> orc+sco
>>>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>> program I
>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
>>>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
>>>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email address 
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> -- 
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>>>
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> 
> 

Hi Rory,

I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: Lettuce 1.2 
instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.

Regards,

Marc


>From: Rory Walsh 
>Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>
>Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the correct 
>convention when releasing versions of software? What's the normal protocol?
>
>mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>Hi Rory,
>>
>>I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. Lettuce 
>>0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>>From: Rory Walsh 
>>>Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>
>>>Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>improvements:
>>>
>>>-Users can select colours for everything from text to message window....
>>>-Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will appear if 
>>>you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk will prompt a 
>>>save command....
>>>-Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish assumption 
>>>that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 characters! This was 
>>>causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>-It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>-Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat files 
>>>for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>-Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share for 
>>>letting me know about that...
>>>
>>>With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's hard to debug here as I 
>>>don't have XP, are you sure that all files that came with Lettuce are set 
>>>to normal mode and not read-only? I know what function is causing this, I 
>>>just don't know why it only happens on ME. The .csd file you sent 
>>>yesterday runs for me here, although I have no controller to check it 
>>>out. Remember to set your settings once you install Lettuce otherwise it 
>>>will keep saying "user setting reset to default", or something like that. 
>>>I will look into your other suggestions soon. Later,
>>>Rory.
>>>
>>>Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>Rory,
>>>>
>>>>Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further observations:
>>>>
>>>>1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. Wonderful.
>>>>
>>>>2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before running 
>>>>Lettuce
>>>>either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>>>Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's how I 
>>>>had
>>>>Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>
>>>>3) The Information window querying about saving before program exit is
>>>>bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved 
>>>>changes
>>>>(asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>
>>>>4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) the last
>>>>file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>>>temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this didn't
>>>>work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>autochange
>>>>itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of 
>>>>Csedit.)
>>>>
>>>>5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File arrow? This
>>>>feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>Incidentally,
>>>>I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I 
>>>>sorely
>>>>missed in Csedit.
>>>>
>>>>Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>
>>>>Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>To: 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we speak
>>>>>I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to select both
>>>>>the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select their own
>>>>>prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. As 
>>>>>far
>>>>>as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only advantage I 
>>>>>can
>>>>>see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a standalone 
>>>>>.exe,
>>>>>and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's getting 
>>>>>late
>>>>>here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. 
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the software
>>>>>on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both WinXP
>>>>and
>>>>>>ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>>>editor.
>>>>>>I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is fine). 
>>>>>>This
>>>>is
>>>>>>because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
>>>>error.)
>>>>>>It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button results in
>>>>this
>>>>>>error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to write 
>>>>>>to
>>>>this
>>>>>>folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 above?) I
>>>>see
>>>>>>no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not black; 
>>>>>>so
>>>>we
>>>>>>have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>select/highlight text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>>>border
>>>>>>are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
>>>>which
>>>>>>shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the standalone
>>>>>>performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under File)
>>>>the
>>>>>>run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. Viewing 
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is no 
>>>>>>FLTK
>>>>>>(I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>>>designed
>>>>>>to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm at a
>>>>loss as
>>>>>>to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in Lettuce.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Art Hunkins
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>To: 
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let me know
>>>>if
>>>>>>>there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>homepage
>>>>>>>yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of Csound? I
>>>>use
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I miss 
>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>option
>>>>>>>>with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Marc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>To: 
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>regarding
>>>>>>>>>list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not sure
>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, there
>>>>>>>>>should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the software 
>>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then run
>>>>>>csound
>>>>>>>>>from the command line. At the moment one can only have one file 
>>>>>>>>>open
>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have uploaded 
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each of 
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I must do 
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to email 
>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import 
>>>>>>>>>>orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>command to work. When I try this command after opening the program 
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>>>the following:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
>>>>>>>>>>.orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
>>>>>>>>>>equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email address 
>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>bug
>>>>>>>>>>reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>--
>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>--
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>>
>>
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I think I read some where that something like
X.Y.Z is common, where X changes with every major release
y changes with new versions, and z changes with little fixes and minor 
alterations to versions. All a little confusing, anyway I get the point, 
to avoid confusion change the version number! Cheers,

Rory.

mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Hi Rory,
> 
> I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: Lettuce 
> 1.2 instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
>> From: Rory Walsh 
>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>>
>> Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
>> correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the 
>> normal protocol?
>>
>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. 
>>> Lettuce 0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>> improvements:
>>>>
>>>> -Users can select colours for everything from text to message 
>>>> window....
>>>> -Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will 
>>>> appear if you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk 
>>>> will prompt a save command....
>>>> -Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>>>> assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 
>>>> characters! This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>> -It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>> -Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat 
>>>> files for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>> -Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share 
>>>> for letting me know about that...
>>>>
>>>> With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have 
>>>> permission to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's hard 
>>>> to debug here as I don't have XP, are you sure that all files that 
>>>> came with Lettuce are set to normal mode and not read-only? I know 
>>>> what function is causing this, I just don't know why it only happens 
>>>> on ME. The .csd file you sent yesterday runs for me here, although I 
>>>> have no controller to check it out. Remember to set your settings 
>>>> once you install Lettuce otherwise it will keep saying "user setting 
>>>> reset to default", or something like that. I will look into your 
>>>> other suggestions soon. Later,
>>>> Rory.
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further observations:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. Wonderful.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before 
>>>>> running Lettuce
>>>>> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>>>> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's 
>>>>> how I had
>>>>> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program exit is
>>>>> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved 
>>>>> changes
>>>>> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) the 
>>>>> last
>>>>> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>>>> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this 
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>> autochange
>>>>> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of 
>>>>> Csedit.)
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File arrow? 
>>>>> This
>>>>> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>> Incidentally,
>>>>> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I 
>>>>> sorely
>>>>> missed in Csedit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we 
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to select 
>>>>>> both
>>>>>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select 
>>>>>> their own
>>>>>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. 
>>>>>> As far
>>>>>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only advantage 
>>>>>> I can
>>>>>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a standalone 
>>>>>> .exe,
>>>>>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's 
>>>>>> getting late
>>>>>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the 
>>>>>> software
>>>>>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both 
>>>>>>> WinXP
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>>>> editor.
>>>>>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is 
>>>>>>> fine). This
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
>>>>> error.)
>>>>>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button 
>>>>>>> results in
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>>>>> write to
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 
>>>>>>> above?) I
>>>>> see
>>>>>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>>>> black; so
>>>>> we
>>>>>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>> select/highlight text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>>>> border
>>>>>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
>>>>> which
>>>>>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the standalone
>>>>>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under 
>>>>>>> File)
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. 
>>>>>>> Viewing the
>>>>>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is 
>>>>>>> no FLTK
>>>>>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>>>> designed
>>>>>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm at a
>>>>> loss as
>>>>>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in 
>>>>>>> Lettuce.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let me 
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>> homepage
>>>>>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of 
>>>>>>>>> Csound? I
>>>>> use
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I 
>>>>>>>>> miss this
>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not 
>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, 
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the 
>>>>>>>>>> software only
>>>>>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then run
>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one 
>>>>>>>>>> file open
>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>>>> uploaded a
>>>>>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each 
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I 
>>>>>>>>>> must do to
>>>>>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to 
>>>>>>>>>> email me
>>>>>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import 
>>>>>>>>>>> orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>>>> program I
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
>>>>>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email 
>>>>>>>>>>> address for
>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>
>>>
>> -- 
>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
> 
> 

Have a look at this:

http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Software-Proj-Mgmt-HOWTO.html#CHOOSEVERSIONING

Cheers,

Chris

Rory Walsh wrote:
> I think I read some where that something like
> X.Y.Z is common, where X changes with every major release
> y changes with new versions, and z changes with little fixes and minor 
> alterations to versions. All a little confusing, anyway I get the point, 
> to avoid confusion change the version number! Cheers,
> 
> Rory.
> 
> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: 
>> Lettuce 1.2 instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>>>
>>> Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
>>> correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the 
>>> normal protocol?
>>>
>>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>> I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. 
>>>> Lettuce 0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>>> improvements:
>>>>>
>>>>> -Users can select colours for everything from text to message 
>>>>> window....
>>>>> -Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will 
>>>>> appear if you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk 
>>>>> will prompt a save command....
>>>>> -Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>>>>> assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 
>>>>> characters! This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>>> -It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>>> -Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat 
>>>>> files for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>>> -Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share 
>>>>> for letting me know about that...
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have 
>>>>> permission to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's 
>>>>> hard to debug here as I don't have XP, are you sure that all files 
>>>>> that came with Lettuce are set to normal mode and not read-only? I 
>>>>> know what function is causing this, I just don't know why it only 
>>>>> happens on ME. The .csd file you sent yesterday runs for me here, 
>>>>> although I have no controller to check it out. Remember to set your 
>>>>> settings once you install Lettuce otherwise it will keep saying 
>>>>> "user setting reset to default", or something like that. I will 
>>>>> look into your other suggestions soon. Later,
>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further 
>>>>>> observations:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. 
>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before 
>>>>>> running Lettuce
>>>>>> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>>>>> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's 
>>>>>> how I had
>>>>>> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program 
>>>>>> exit is
>>>>>> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved 
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) 
>>>>>> the last
>>>>>> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>>>>> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this 
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>>> autochange
>>>>>> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of 
>>>>>> Csedit.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File 
>>>>>> arrow? This
>>>>>> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>>> Incidentally,
>>>>>> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I 
>>>>>> sorely
>>>>>> missed in Csedit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we 
>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to 
>>>>>>> select both
>>>>>>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select 
>>>>>>> their own
>>>>>>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. 
>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only 
>>>>>>> advantage I can
>>>>>>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a 
>>>>>>> standalone .exe,
>>>>>>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's 
>>>>>>> getting late
>>>>>>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the 
>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both 
>>>>>>>> WinXP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>>>>>
>>>>>> editor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is 
>>>>>>>> fine). This
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> error.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button 
>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>>>>>> write to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 
>>>>>>>> above?) I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>>>>> black; so
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>>> select/highlight text.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> border
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the 
>>>>>>>> standalone
>>>>>>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under 
>>>>>>>> File)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. 
>>>>>>>> Viewing the
>>>>>>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is 
>>>>>>>> no FLTK
>>>>>>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>>>>>
>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm 
>>>>>>>> at a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> loss as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in 
>>>>>>>> Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let 
>>>>>>>>> me know
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>>>
>>>>>> homepage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of 
>>>>>>>>>> Csound? I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I 
>>>>>>>>>> miss this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not 
>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, 
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the 
>>>>>>>>>>> software only
>>>>>>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then 
>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one 
>>>>>>>>>>> file open
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded a
>>>>>>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each 
>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I 
>>>>>>>>>>> must do to
>>>>>>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to 
>>>>>>>>>>> email me
>>>>>>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import 
>>>>>>>>>>>> orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> program I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
>>>>>>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email 
>>>>>>>>>>>> address for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to 
>>>>>>>>>>> csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>
>>
>>

Nice one.

Rory.

Chris Share wrote:
> Have a look at this:
> 
> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Software-Proj-Mgmt-HOWTO.html#CHOOSEVERSIONING 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> Rory Walsh wrote:
>> I think I read some where that something like
>> X.Y.Z is common, where X changes with every major release
>> y changes with new versions, and z changes with little fixes and minor 
>> alterations to versions. All a little confusing, anyway I get the 
>> point, to avoid confusion change the version number! Cheers,
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: 
>>> Lettuce 1.2 instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
>>>> correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the 
>>>> normal protocol?
>>>>
>>>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. 
>>>>> Lettuce 0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>>>> improvements:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Users can select colours for everything from text to message 
>>>>>> window....
>>>>>> -Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will 
>>>>>> appear if you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk 
>>>>>> will prompt a save command....
>>>>>> -Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>>>>>> assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 
>>>>>> characters! This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>>>> -It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>>>> -Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat 
>>>>>> files for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>>>> -Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share 
>>>>>> for letting me know about that...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have 
>>>>>> permission to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's 
>>>>>> hard to debug here as I don't have XP, are you sure that all files 
>>>>>> that came with Lettuce are set to normal mode and not read-only? I 
>>>>>> know what function is causing this, I just don't know why it only 
>>>>>> happens on ME. The .csd file you sent yesterday runs for me here, 
>>>>>> although I have no controller to check it out. Remember to set 
>>>>>> your settings once you install Lettuce otherwise it will keep 
>>>>>> saying "user setting reset to default", or something like that. I 
>>>>>> will look into your other suggestions soon. Later,
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further 
>>>>>>> observations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. 
>>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before 
>>>>>>> running Lettuce
>>>>>>> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>>>>>> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's 
>>>>>>> how I had
>>>>>>> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program 
>>>>>>> exit is
>>>>>>> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are 
>>>>>>> unsaved changes
>>>>>>> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) 
>>>>>>> the last
>>>>>>> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>>>>>> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this 
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>>>> autochange
>>>>>>> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of 
>>>>>>> Csedit.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File 
>>>>>>> arrow? This
>>>>>>> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>>>> Incidentally,
>>>>>>> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature 
>>>>>>> I sorely
>>>>>>> missed in Csedit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As 
>>>>>>>> we speak
>>>>>>>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to 
>>>>>>>> select both
>>>>>>>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>>>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select 
>>>>>>>> their own
>>>>>>>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin 
>>>>>>>> shell. As far
>>>>>>>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only 
>>>>>>>> advantage I can
>>>>>>>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a 
>>>>>>>> standalone .exe,
>>>>>>>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's 
>>>>>>>> getting late
>>>>>>>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some 
>>>>>>>> answers. Thanks
>>>>>>>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the 
>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on 
>>>>>>>>> both WinXP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> editor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is 
>>>>>>>>> fine). This
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not 
>>>>>>>>> start:cmd"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> error.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button 
>>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>>>>>>> write to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 
>>>>>>>>> above?) I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>>>>>> black; so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>>>> select/highlight text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME 
>>>>>>>>> machine/monitor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the 
>>>>>>>>> standalone
>>>>>>>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked 
>>>>>>>>> (under File)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. 
>>>>>>>>> Viewing the
>>>>>>>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There 
>>>>>>>>> is no FLTK
>>>>>>>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm 
>>>>>>>>> at a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> loss as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in 
>>>>>>>>> Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let 
>>>>>>>>>> me know
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> homepage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of 
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound? I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I 
>>>>>>>>>>> miss this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd 
>>>>>>>>>>>> file, there
>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> software only
>>>>>>>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> then run
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one 
>>>>>>>>>>>> file open
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded a
>>>>>>>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> each of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> must do to
>>>>>>>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> email me
>>>>>>>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> File->Import orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> program I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> load a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> address for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
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>>>
>>>
>>>

Why does it have to be so complicated for such a simple thing.... I trust 
you for the more convenient way to adopt...

Amitié,

Marc


>From: Rory Walsh 
>Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:00:26 +0100
>
>I think I read some where that something like
>X.Y.Z is common, where X changes with every major release
>y changes with new versions, and z changes with little fixes and minor 
>alterations to versions. All a little confusing, anyway I get the point, to 
>avoid confusion change the version number! Cheers,
>
>Rory.
>
>mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>Hi Rory,
>>
>>I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: Lettuce 
>>1.2 instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>>From: Rory Walsh 
>>>Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>>>
>>>Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
>>>correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the normal 
>>>protocol?
>>>
>>>mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>>Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>>I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. Lettuce 
>>>>0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>>Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>>>improvements:
>>>>>
>>>>>-Users can select colours for everything from text to message 
>>>>>window....
>>>>>-Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will appear 
>>>>>if you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk will prompt 
>>>>>a save command....
>>>>>-Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>>>>>assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 characters! 
>>>>>This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>>>-It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>>>-Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat files 
>>>>>for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>>>-Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share for 
>>>>>letting me know about that...
>>>>>
>>>>>With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission 
>>>>>to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's hard to debug here 
>>>>>as I don't have XP, are you sure that all files that came with Lettuce 
>>>>>are set to normal mode and not read-only? I know what function is 
>>>>>causing this, I just don't know why it only happens on ME. The .csd 
>>>>>file you sent yesterday runs for me here, although I have no controller 
>>>>>to check it out. Remember to set your settings once you install Lettuce 
>>>>>otherwise it will keep saying "user setting reset to default", or 
>>>>>something like that. I will look into your other suggestions soon. 
>>>>>Later,
>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>
>>>>>Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further observations:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. Wonderful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before running 
>>>>>>Lettuce
>>>>>>either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>>>>>Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's how I 
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3) The Information window querying about saving before program exit is
>>>>>>bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are unsaved 
>>>>>>changes
>>>>>>(asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) the 
>>>>>>last
>>>>>>file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>>>>>temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this 
>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>>>autochange
>>>>>>itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of 
>>>>>>Csedit.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File arrow? 
>>>>>>This
>>>>>>feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>>>Incidentally,
>>>>>>I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature I 
>>>>>>sorely
>>>>>>missed in Csedit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Art Hunkins
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>To: 
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As we 
>>>>>>>speak
>>>>>>>I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to select 
>>>>>>>both
>>>>>>>the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>>>command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select their 
>>>>>>>own
>>>>>>>prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin shell. As 
>>>>>>>far
>>>>>>>as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only advantage I 
>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a standalone 
>>>>>>>.exe,
>>>>>>>and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's getting 
>>>>>>>late
>>>>>>>here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some answers. 
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the 
>>>>>>>software
>>>>>>>on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on both 
>>>>>>>>WinXP
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>>>>>editor.
>>>>>>>>I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is fine). 
>>>>>>>>This
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not start:cmd"
>>>>>>error.)
>>>>>>>>It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button results 
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to write 
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 above?) 
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>>>>>black; so
>>>>>>we
>>>>>>>>have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>>>select/highlight text.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>>>>>border
>>>>>>>>are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME machine/monitor
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the standalone
>>>>>>>>performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked (under 
>>>>>>>>File)
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. Viewing 
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There is no 
>>>>>>>>FLTK
>>>>>>>>(I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>>>>>designed
>>>>>>>>to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm at a
>>>>>>loss as
>>>>>>>>to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in 
>>>>>>>>Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>To: 
>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let me 
>>>>>>>>>know
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>>>homepage
>>>>>>>>>yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of Csound? 
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>use
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I miss 
>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>option
>>>>>>>>>>with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Marc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>>To: 
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>>>regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm not 
>>>>>>>>>>>sure
>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>>>you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd file, 
>>>>>>>>>>>there
>>>>>>>>>>>should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the software 
>>>>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and then run
>>>>>>>>csound
>>>>>>>>>>>from the command line. At the moment one can only have one file 
>>>>>>>>>>>open
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>uploaded a
>>>>>>>>>>>newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for each of 
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>>>www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I must 
>>>>>>>>>>>do to
>>>>>>>>>>>recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to 
>>>>>>>>>>>email me
>>>>>>>>>>>directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>While the program runs properly I can't get the File->Import 
>>>>>>>>>>>>orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>>>command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>program I
>>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>>>>>the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to load a
>>>>>>>>>>>>.orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't have an
>>>>>>>>>>>>equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email address 
>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>
>>
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I will adopt the part that says the 'most important thing about a system 
of numbering (for versions) is that the numbers always go up'.

Rory.

mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Why does it have to be so complicated for such a simple thing.... I 
> trust you for the more convenient way to adopt...
> 
> Amitié,
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
>> From: Rory Walsh 
>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:00:26 +0100
>>
>> I think I read some where that something like
>> X.Y.Z is common, where X changes with every major release
>> y changes with new versions, and z changes with little fixes and minor 
>> alterations to versions. All a little confusing, anyway I get the 
>> point, to avoid confusion change the version number! Cheers,
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: 
>>> Lettuce 1.2 instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
>>>> correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the 
>>>> normal protocol?
>>>>
>>>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. 
>>>>> Lettuce 0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>>>> improvements:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Users can select colours for everything from text to message 
>>>>>> window....
>>>>>> -Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will 
>>>>>> appear if you change anything and trying to close with an asterisk 
>>>>>> will prompt a save command....
>>>>>> -Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>>>>>> assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 
>>>>>> characters! This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>>>> -It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>>>> -Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat 
>>>>>> files for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>>>> -Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share 
>>>>>> for letting me know about that...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have 
>>>>>> permission to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's 
>>>>>> hard to debug here as I don't have XP, are you sure that all files 
>>>>>> that came with Lettuce are set to normal mode and not read-only? I 
>>>>>> know what function is causing this, I just don't know why it only 
>>>>>> happens on ME. The .csd file you sent yesterday runs for me here, 
>>>>>> although I have no controller to check it out. Remember to set 
>>>>>> your settings once you install Lettuce otherwise it will keep 
>>>>>> saying "user setting reset to default", or something like that. I 
>>>>>> will look into your other suggestions soon. Later,
>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further 
>>>>>>> observations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. 
>>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before 
>>>>>>> running Lettuce
>>>>>>> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved first.
>>>>>>> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's 
>>>>>>> how I had
>>>>>>> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program 
>>>>>>> exit is
>>>>>>> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are 
>>>>>>> unsaved changes
>>>>>>> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) 
>>>>>>> the last
>>>>>>> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in Settings to
>>>>>>> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this 
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>>>> autochange
>>>>>>> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature of 
>>>>>>> Csedit.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File 
>>>>>>> arrow? This
>>>>>>> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>>>> Incidentally,
>>>>>>> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature 
>>>>>>> I sorely
>>>>>>> missed in Csedit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As 
>>>>>>>> we speak
>>>>>>>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to 
>>>>>>>> select both
>>>>>>>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>>>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select 
>>>>>>>> their own
>>>>>>>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin 
>>>>>>>> shell. As far
>>>>>>>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only 
>>>>>>>> advantage I can
>>>>>>>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a 
>>>>>>>> standalone .exe,
>>>>>>>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's 
>>>>>>>> getting late
>>>>>>>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some 
>>>>>>>> answers. Thanks
>>>>>>>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the 
>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on 
>>>>>>>>> both WinXP
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new regular
>>>>>>> editor.
>>>>>>>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is 
>>>>>>>>> fine). This
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not 
>>>>>>>>> start:cmd"
>>>>>>> error.)
>>>>>>>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button 
>>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>>>>>>> write to
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 
>>>>>>>>> above?) I
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>>>>>> black; so
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>>>> select/highlight text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top window)
>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME 
>>>>>>>>> machine/monitor
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the 
>>>>>>>>> standalone
>>>>>>>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked 
>>>>>>>>> (under File)
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. 
>>>>>>>>> Viewing the
>>>>>>>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There 
>>>>>>>>> is no FLTK
>>>>>>>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is instead
>>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). I'm 
>>>>>>>>> at a
>>>>>>> loss as
>>>>>>>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in 
>>>>>>>>> Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let 
>>>>>>>>>> me know
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>>>> homepage
>>>>>>>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of 
>>>>>>>>>>> Csound? I
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I 
>>>>>>>>>>> miss this
>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd 
>>>>>>>>>>>> file, there
>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> software only
>>>>>>>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> then run
>>>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one 
>>>>>>>>>>>> file open
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded a
>>>>>>>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> each of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> must do to
>>>>>>>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> email me
>>>>>>>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> File->Import orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> program I
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> load a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> address for
>>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>
>>>
>> -- 
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>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
> 
> 

:-)

Rory Walsh wrote:
> I will adopt the part that says the 'most important thing about a system 
> of numbering (for versions) is that the numbers always go up'.
> 
> Rory.
> 
> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
> 
>> Why does it have to be so complicated for such a simple thing.... I 
>> trust you for the more convenient way to adopt...
>>
>> Amitié,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:00:26 +0100
>>>
>>> I think I read some where that something like
>>> X.Y.Z is common, where X changes with every major release
>>> y changes with new versions, and z changes with little fixes and 
>>> minor alterations to versions. All a little confusing, anyway I get 
>>> the point, to avoid confusion change the version number! Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: 
>>>> Lettuce 1.2 instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
>>>>> correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the 
>>>>> normal protocol?
>>>>>
>>>>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. 
>>>>>> Lettuce 0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>>>>> improvements:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Users can select colours for everything from text to message 
>>>>>>> window....
>>>>>>> -Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will 
>>>>>>> appear if you change anything and trying to close with an 
>>>>>>> asterisk will prompt a save command....
>>>>>>> -Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>>>>>>> assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 
>>>>>>> characters! This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>>>>> -It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>>>>> -Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat 
>>>>>>> files for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>>>>> -Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share 
>>>>>>> for letting me know about that...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have 
>>>>>>> permission to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's 
>>>>>>> hard to debug here as I don't have XP, are you sure that all 
>>>>>>> files that came with Lettuce are set to normal mode and not 
>>>>>>> read-only? I know what function is causing this, I just don't 
>>>>>>> know why it only happens on ME. The .csd file you sent yesterday 
>>>>>>> runs for me here, although I have no controller to check it out. 
>>>>>>> Remember to set your settings once you install Lettuce otherwise 
>>>>>>> it will keep saying "user setting reset to default", or something 
>>>>>>> like that. I will look into your other suggestions soon. Later,
>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further 
>>>>>>>> observations:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. 
>>>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before 
>>>>>>>> running Lettuce
>>>>>>>> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved 
>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's 
>>>>>>>> how I had
>>>>>>>> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program 
>>>>>>>> exit is
>>>>>>>> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are 
>>>>>>>> unsaved changes
>>>>>>>> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) 
>>>>>>>> the last
>>>>>>>> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in 
>>>>>>>> Settings to
>>>>>>>> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this 
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>>>>> autochange
>>>>>>>> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature 
>>>>>>>> of Csedit.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File 
>>>>>>>> arrow? This
>>>>>>>> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>>>>> Incidentally,
>>>>>>>> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature 
>>>>>>>> I sorely
>>>>>>>> missed in Csedit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As 
>>>>>>>>> we speak
>>>>>>>>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to 
>>>>>>>>> select both
>>>>>>>>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>>>>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select 
>>>>>>>>> their own
>>>>>>>>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin 
>>>>>>>>> shell. As far
>>>>>>>>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only 
>>>>>>>>> advantage I can
>>>>>>>>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a 
>>>>>>>>> standalone .exe,
>>>>>>>>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's 
>>>>>>>>> getting late
>>>>>>>>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some 
>>>>>>>>> answers. Thanks
>>>>>>>>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the 
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on 
>>>>>>>>>> both WinXP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new 
>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> editor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is 
>>>>>>>>>> fine). This
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not 
>>>>>>>>>> start:cmd"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> error.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button 
>>>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>>>>>>>> write to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 
>>>>>>>>>> above?) I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>>>>>>> black; so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>>>>> select/highlight text.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top 
>>>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME 
>>>>>>>>>> machine/monitor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the 
>>>>>>>>>> standalone
>>>>>>>>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked 
>>>>>>>>>> (under File)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. 
>>>>>>>>>> Viewing the
>>>>>>>>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There 
>>>>>>>>>> is no FLTK
>>>>>>>>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is 
>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm at a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> loss as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in 
>>>>>>>>>> Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let 
>>>>>>>>>>> me know
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> homepage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound? I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> miss this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file, there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> software only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then run
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file open
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> must do to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to email me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File->Import orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program I
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to 
>>>>>>>>>>> csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Send bugs reports to this list.
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>>
>>
>>

It's a good idea to name the actual .exe file too. For example, version 
1.2 should be named "Lettuce-1.2.exe".

Cheers,

Chris

Rory Walsh wrote:
> I will adopt the part that says the 'most important thing about a system 
> of numbering (for versions) is that the numbers always go up'.
> 
> Rory.
> 
> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
> 
>> Why does it have to be so complicated for such a simple thing.... I 
>> trust you for the more convenient way to adopt...
>>
>> Amitié,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:00:26 +0100
>>>
>>> I think I read some where that something like
>>> X.Y.Z is common, where X changes with every major release
>>> y changes with new versions, and z changes with little fixes and 
>>> minor alterations to versions. All a little confusing, anyway I get 
>>> the point, to avoid confusion change the version number! Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rory.
>>>
>>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if there is any protocol at all but simply wrote: 
>>>> Lettuce 1.2 instead of Lettuce beta will be excellent.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:04:08 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, as it stands it is version 1.2, although I am not sure of the 
>>>>> correct convention when releasing versions of software? What's the 
>>>>> normal protocol?
>>>>>
>>>>> mddemers@sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be fine if you can put a version number to Lettuce (i.e. 
>>>>>> Lettuce 0.3). This way, we will notice the upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Rory Walsh 
>>>>>>> Reply-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:35:48 +0100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Art, I've uploaded a new version today with the following 
>>>>>>> improvements:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Users can select colours for everything from text to message 
>>>>>>> window....
>>>>>>> -Sorted the annoying save before close issue, an asterisk will 
>>>>>>> appear if you change anything and trying to close with an 
>>>>>>> asterisk will prompt a save command....
>>>>>>> -Compiler should run now, I had somehow made a rather foolish 
>>>>>>> assumption that peoples csd files would be less than 2000 
>>>>>>> characters! This was causing the decode failed message to appear.
>>>>>>> -It should now auto load the last saved file
>>>>>>> -Users can now select their own prompt, this also works with bat 
>>>>>>> files for those of you who prefer MSYS to dos...
>>>>>>> -Fixed a bug in the import orc/sco section, thanks to Chris Share 
>>>>>>> for letting me know about that...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards the "Could not copy files. Make sure you have 
>>>>>>> permission to write to this folder.", I will look into it, it's 
>>>>>>> hard to debug here as I don't have XP, are you sure that all 
>>>>>>> files that came with Lettuce are set to normal mode and not 
>>>>>>> read-only? I know what function is causing this, I just don't 
>>>>>>> know why it only happens on ME. The .csd file you sent yesterday 
>>>>>>> runs for me here, although I have no controller to check it out. 
>>>>>>> Remember to set your settings once you install Lettuce otherwise 
>>>>>>> it will keep saying "user setting reset to default", or something 
>>>>>>> like that. I will look into your other suggestions soon. Later,
>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rory,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Further working with Lettuce today leads to some further 
>>>>>>>> observations:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) FLTK widgets and MIDI input both work will in XP and ME. 
>>>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) When you make a change to a .csd and don't save it before 
>>>>>>>> running Lettuce
>>>>>>>> either crashes or shuts down. No problem if changes are saved 
>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>> Actually I'd prefer an auto-save prior to running anyway (that's 
>>>>>>>> how I had
>>>>>>>> Csedit set). I'm sure this would solve any problem here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) The Information window querying about saving before program 
>>>>>>>> exit is
>>>>>>>> bothersome to me. I'd prefer it only pop up when there are 
>>>>>>>> unsaved changes
>>>>>>>> (asterisk following filename as in Csedit).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) Is it possible for the program to autoload (on program open) 
>>>>>>>> the last
>>>>>>>> file used? Actually, I tried to set New File Template in 
>>>>>>>> Settings to
>>>>>>>> temp.csd, which seemed (??) to be the last file loaded, but this 
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> work - at least in part because this setting seems frequently to 
>>>>>>>> autochange
>>>>>>>> itself back to template.csd!! (Again, this was a handy feature 
>>>>>>>> of Csedit.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5) Any chance of incorporating a Next File and Previous File 
>>>>>>>> arrow? This
>>>>>>>> feature was buggy in Csedit, and periodically drove me crazy. 
>>>>>>>> Incidentally,
>>>>>>>> I'm glad you've incorporated a print function; this is a feature 
>>>>>>>> I sorely
>>>>>>>> missed in Csedit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts and items for a wish list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Art. I will look into these issues as soon as I can. As 
>>>>>>>>> we speak
>>>>>>>>> I am near finished implementing a feature to allow users to 
>>>>>>>>> select both
>>>>>>>>> the colour of the editor gutter and the line numbers. With regards
>>>>>>>>> command prompt I will add a function to allow users to select 
>>>>>>>>> their own
>>>>>>>>> prompt, for instance some users may prefer to use a cwygin 
>>>>>>>>> shell. As far
>>>>>>>>> as I know the FLTK widgets do run with Lettuce, the only 
>>>>>>>>> advantage I can
>>>>>>>>> see with using my own GUI features is that is creates a 
>>>>>>>>> standalone .exe,
>>>>>>>>> and as for the compiler, I will check it out now...... it's 
>>>>>>>>> getting late
>>>>>>>>> here however so it may be tomorrow before I you get some 
>>>>>>>>> answers. Thanks
>>>>>>>>> for letting me know about these issues, I have only tried the 
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>> on XP so was not aware of any issues on others OS's. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been trying out your 32-bit Lettuce with Csound5.02 on 
>>>>>>>>>> both WinXP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ME. A real nice piece of work that I hope to use as my new 
>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> editor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm experiencing a few glitches I'd like to pass along:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) The command line prompt button doesn't work on ME (XP is 
>>>>>>>>>> fine). This
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because WinME doesn't have a cmd.exe (I get a "could not 
>>>>>>>>>> start:cmd"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> error.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would surely be nice to have an ME (and earlier) equivalent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2) With ME (again XP is fine), clicking the Compiler button 
>>>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> error: "Could not copy files. Make sure you have permission to 
>>>>>>>>>> write to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> folder." (I'm wondering if this error could be related to #1 
>>>>>>>>>> above?) I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> no issue of permissions here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3) With ME (XP is OK), the lower, message window is white, not 
>>>>>>>>>> black; so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have white on white = invisible. The only way to see it is to
>>>>>>>>>> select/highlight text.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4) With both OS's, the black line numbers on the blue (top 
>>>>>>>>>> window)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> are near invisible - particularly, for me, on my ME 
>>>>>>>>>> machine/monitor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> shows slightly darker blue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5) Finally, with the Compiler option, Win XP displays the 
>>>>>>>>>> standalone
>>>>>>>>>> performance window nicely, but when Run Csound is clicked 
>>>>>>>>>> (under File)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> run aborts quickly, with an "error starting Csound" message. 
>>>>>>>>>> Viewing the
>>>>>>>>>> performance window indicates where the "decode failed."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm attaching the real-time MIDI .csd for your perusal. There 
>>>>>>>>>> is no FLTK
>>>>>>>>>> (I'm gathering that Lettuce doesn't deal with FLTK, and is 
>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to implement its own widget set, as I see no FLTK opcodes). 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm at a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> loss as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to why it doesn't run, as it works well when run normally in 
>>>>>>>>>> Lettuce.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for a superb utility.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a version that supports double samples here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rorywalsh.ear.ie/RoryFolder/setup64.exe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't really tested it but hopefully it should be ok. Let 
>>>>>>>>>>> me know
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> there are any problems. I haven't linked to it from the lettuce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> homepage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> yet just in case it does not work as expected....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marc Demers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a big job to adapt Lettuce for the 64 bit version of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound? I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the 32 bit (5.02) but since I use Loris quite a bit, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> miss this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the 5.02 version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:32 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lettuce Questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, I can't seem to recreate this problem 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> list index but it certainly looks like a bug alright. I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean by trying to open an orc/sco file after a .csd 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file, there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be any problems there? Keep in mind that the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> software only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs with .csd files, unless you use it as an editor and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then run
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> csound
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the command line. At the moment one can only have one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file open
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a time. I will look into having several open soon. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer version now that adds equivalent menu commands for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar buttons, you can get it from the same place as before,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm. Can you let me know exactly what I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> must do to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recreate that bug? There is no mailing list but feel free 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to email me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly with any questions or suggestions. Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Share wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've downloaded and installed Lettuce. It looks great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While the program runs properly I can't get the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File->Import orc+sco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command to work. When I try this command after opening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program I
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> List index out of bounds (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if I load a .csd file, there seems to be no way to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .orc/.sco file afterwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another suggestion: some of the toolbar shortcuts don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent menu command (e.g. Run Csound, Compile).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there a mailing list for Lettuce (even an email 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bug
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reports)?. I couldn't find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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