Yes, I had forgotten. Thanks for the reminder. What about no Python in CsoundVST for Mac only, with Python on other platforms?

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
>From: Victor Lazzarini 
>Sent: Mar 23, 2006 10:12 AM
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: [Csnd] The future of computer music? (was Re: [Csnd] The future of winsound)
>
>CsoundVST would build on a Mac if it was not a python module as well,
>as I pointed out before.
>
>Victor
>
>At 14:59 23/03/2006, you wrote:
>>CsoundVST is in fact this GUI frontend program, and already has an editor. 
>>However, I do not have a Mac, so have not ported it to OS X. Note that 
>>CsoundVST also does not have dialogs for helping with running utilities, 
>>setting options, etc... the user has to type in a regular Csound command 
>>line in a text box.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mike
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Victor Lazzarini 
>> >Sent: Mar 23, 2006 7:26 AM
>> >To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> >Subject: Re: [Csnd] The future of computer music? (was Re: [Csnd] The 
>> future of winsound)
>> >
>> >I agree with you. For instance, the Csound 5 OSX GUI does not add anything
>> >to the command-line interface apart from play-pause-rewind buttons. What it
>> >does (and took me a while of fiddling to achieve) is 99% (if not 100%)
>> >compatibility with the command-line, so there is nothing that can be done in
>> >the command-line that cannot be done in it (FLTK included)
>> >
>> >So it does not add anything really. However, I did not see that as the
>> >reason for
>> >spending part of my Christmas holiday putting it together, but because I
>> >believe
>> >that outside the Unix-originated world there are lots of people that are
>> >put off typing
>> >things into a terminal, esp. Mac users who prior to OSX did not even have a
>> >straightforward terminal to use. I believe we had to cater for these
>> >people, even
>> >if in a limited fashion, so that the csound distribution included a basic
>> >GUI frontend.
>> >
>> >I can see that people might like an all-in-one GUI environment with an
>> >editor and
>> >other stuff. I am sure someone will do it.
>> >
>> >Victor
>> >
>> >At 10:52 23/03/2006, you wrote:
>> >>I may be alone with this opinion, but most of the GUI frontends add
>> >>little if anything compared to the command line interface, and those
>> >>that do (Blue, Cabel, and various plugins for other software like PD,
>> >>Max, Cubase, etc.) are available for Csound 5. The GUIs for Csound 4
>> >>like Winsound or CsoundAV may look impressive to new users, but do not
>> >>in fact add real new functionality, and the built-in editors can be
>> >>limited compared for example to vim or emacs with a Csound mode.
>> >>
>> >>On Thursday 23 March 2006 11:16, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I say Csound 5 already looks the future of  computer music,
>> >> > even if I say it so myself. Apart from the 'base system', there
>> >> > are various exciting API projects that are coming onstream.
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps from a Mac-only perspective it might not immediately
>> >> > seem a revolution, but even in that platform it is.  For OSX,
>> >> > there are seven different frontends
>> >> > already: the csound 5 GUI, csound 5 wish, csoundapi~ (PD), csound~
>> >> (MaxMSP),
>> >> > CSDPlayer, CsoundXAlpha and csound 'classic' command-line (as
>> >> > well as cstclsh, so there are eight), and that does not include John's
>> >> > winsound (and also Blue and Cabel, which are not API-based).
>> >> > There is no MacCsound with an editor, but I am sure Matt
>> >> > will eventually include an editor in his version.
>> >> >
>> >> > In any case, editors are plentiful. The most useful of them seems to be
>> >> > emacs with the csound modes (it might be an idea to offer an emacs
>> >> > package including these modes in CSounds.com).
>> >> >
>> >> > At 01:16 22/03/2006, you wrote:
>> >> > >Typing commandlines in the Terminal has a sort of nostalgic super
>> >> > >user / computer wizard / hacker vibe that a few
>> >> > >of my students can totally appreciate, but for most of them...
>> >> > >Csound5 looks and feels like a step back in time and
>> >> > >not a step forward into the future of computer music...
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>> >Victor Lazzarini
>> >Music Technology Laboratory
>> >Music Department
>> >National University of Ireland, Maynooth
>> >
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>Victor Lazzarini
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>Music Department
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