| CsoundVST is in fact this GUI frontend program, and already has an editor. However, I do not have a Mac, so have not ported it to OS X. Note that CsoundVST also does not have dialogs for helping with running utilities, setting options, etc... the user has to type in a regular Csound command line in a text box.
Regards,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
>From: Victor Lazzarini
>Sent: Mar 23, 2006 7:26 AM
>To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: [Csnd] The future of computer music? (was Re: [Csnd] The future of winsound)
>
>I agree with you. For instance, the Csound 5 OSX GUI does not add anything
>to the command-line interface apart from play-pause-rewind buttons. What it
>does (and took me a while of fiddling to achieve) is 99% (if not 100%)
>compatibility with the command-line, so there is nothing that can be done in
>the command-line that cannot be done in it (FLTK included)
>
>So it does not add anything really. However, I did not see that as the
>reason for
>spending part of my Christmas holiday putting it together, but because I
>believe
>that outside the Unix-originated world there are lots of people that are
>put off typing
>things into a terminal, esp. Mac users who prior to OSX did not even have a
>straightforward terminal to use. I believe we had to cater for these
>people, even
>if in a limited fashion, so that the csound distribution included a basic
>GUI frontend.
>
>I can see that people might like an all-in-one GUI environment with an
>editor and
>other stuff. I am sure someone will do it.
>
>Victor
>
>At 10:52 23/03/2006, you wrote:
>>I may be alone with this opinion, but most of the GUI frontends add
>>little if anything compared to the command line interface, and those
>>that do (Blue, Cabel, and various plugins for other software like PD,
>>Max, Cubase, etc.) are available for Csound 5. The GUIs for Csound 4
>>like Winsound or CsoundAV may look impressive to new users, but do not
>>in fact add real new functionality, and the built-in editors can be
>>limited compared for example to vim or emacs with a Csound mode.
>>
>>On Thursday 23 March 2006 11:16, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>> > I say Csound 5 already looks the future of computer music,
>> > even if I say it so myself. Apart from the 'base system', there
>> > are various exciting API projects that are coming onstream.
>> >
>> > Perhaps from a Mac-only perspective it might not immediately
>> > seem a revolution, but even in that platform it is. For OSX,
>> > there are seven different frontends
>> > already: the csound 5 GUI, csound 5 wish, csoundapi~ (PD), csound~
>> (MaxMSP),
>> > CSDPlayer, CsoundXAlpha and csound 'classic' command-line (as
>> > well as cstclsh, so there are eight), and that does not include John's
>> > winsound (and also Blue and Cabel, which are not API-based).
>> > There is no MacCsound with an editor, but I am sure Matt
>> > will eventually include an editor in his version.
>> >
>> > In any case, editors are plentiful. The most useful of them seems to be
>> > emacs with the csound modes (it might be an idea to offer an emacs
>> > package including these modes in CSounds.com).
>> >
>> > At 01:16 22/03/2006, you wrote:
>> > >Typing commandlines in the Terminal has a sort of nostalgic super
>> > >user / computer wizard / hacker vibe that a few
>> > >of my students can totally appreciate, but for most of them...
>> > >Csound5 looks and feels like a step back in time and
>> > >not a step forward into the future of computer music...
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>Victor Lazzarini
>Music Technology Laboratory
>Music Department
>National University of Ireland, Maynooth
>
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