I've managed to send data with the following code. Pd has a slider that represents the output of phasor. However whats happening is it takes losil (which is receiving a 4min audio file) alot longer to get from 0 - 1 than the phasor. How can I correct this? Its hard to figure out because losil of course only has the audio output that will go from -1 to 1 which isn't the data needed. is there away losil can let us know where it is in its cps?

instr 	106					
a1, a2 loscil  10000, 1, 5, 1, 1 ;sample-based looping oscillator
kdisplay phasor 1
;ilen = ftlen 5
;isr = ftsr(5)
outvalue "samp", kdisplay
		out 	a1, a2
		endin

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perhaps
	iTablen = nsamp(5)
	iSampdur = iTablen / ftsr(5)
	kdisplay phasor 1/iSampdur
?

	joachim



On 30/01/18 13:19, Joel Ramsbottom wrote:
> I've managed to send data with the following code. Pd has a slider that represents the output of phasor. However whats happening is it takes losil (which is receiving a 4min audio file) alot longer to get from 0 - 1 than the phasor. How can I correct this? Its hard to figure out because losil of course only has the audio output that will go from -1 to 1 which isn't the data needed. is there away losil can let us know where it is in its cps?
>
> instr 	106					
> a1, a2 loscil  10000, 1, 5, 1, 1 ;sample-based looping oscillator
> kdisplay phasor 1
> ;ilen = ftlen 5
> ;isr = ftsr(5)
> outvalue "samp", kdisplay
> 		out 	a1, a2
> 		endin
>
> many thanks
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Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the phase information from
loscil not match up with the phasor if the sound file loops? Seems
like the internal phase information might be useful to have.

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Joel Ramsbottom
 wrote:
> I've managed to send data with the following code. Pd has a slider that represents the output of phasor. However whats happening is it takes losil (which is receiving a 4min audio file) alot longer to get from 0 - 1 than the phasor. How can I correct this? Its hard to figure out because losil of course only has the audio output that will go from -1 to 1 which isn't the data needed. is there away losil can let us know where it is in its cps?
>
> instr   106
> a1, a2 loscil  10000, 1, 5, 1, 1 ;sample-based looping oscillator
> kdisplay phasor 1
> ;ilen = ftlen 5
> ;isr = ftsr(5)
> outvalue "samp", kdisplay
>                 out     a1, a2
>                 endin
>
> many thanks
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I'm probably not the only one who has replaced loscil with a phasor, table reading, and end point calculating math, in order to share or export the indeed value (to line up playbacks or display position in a UI), perhaps we need an loscil that exposes its phase, either as an absolute index or normalized value

Autocorrect: "share or export the index value"

Working on this now. I have a version of loscil that outputs the audio-rate phase position as an extra parameter.
Will do loscil3, document and push
========================
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Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
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> On 30 Jan 2018, at 15:26, Justin Smith  wrote:
> 
> Autocorrect: "share or export the index value"
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:25 Justin Smith  wrote:
> I'm probably not the only one who has replaced loscil with a phasor, table reading, and end point calculating math, in order to share or export the indeed value (to line up playbacks or display position in a UI), perhaps we need an loscil that exposes its phase, either as an absolute index or normalized value
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:02 Steven Yi  wrote:
> Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the phase information from
> loscil not match up with the phasor if the sound file loops? Seems
> like the internal phase information might be useful to have.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Joel Ramsbottom
>  wrote:
> > I've managed to send data with the following code. Pd has a slider that represents the output of phasor. However whats happening is it takes losil (which is receiving a 4min audio file) alot longer to get from 0 - 1 than the phasor. How can I correct this? Its hard to figure out because losil of course only has the audio output that will go from -1 to 1 which isn't the data needed. is there away losil can let us know where it is in its cps?
> >
> > instr   106
> > a1, a2 loscil  10000, 1, 5, 1, 1 ;sample-based looping oscillator
> > kdisplay phasor 1
> > ;ilen = ftlen 5
> > ;isr = ftsr(5)
> > outvalue "samp", kdisplay
> >                 out     a1, a2
> >                 endin
> >
> > many thanks
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These opcodes are in now and documented. They are called loscilphs and loscil3phs and have a first output parameter that outputs the normalised phase.
========================
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> On 31 Jan 2018, at 16:37, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
> Working on this now. I have a version of loscil that outputs the audio-rate phase position as an extra parameter.
> Will do loscil3, document and push
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
> 
>> On 30 Jan 2018, at 15:26, Justin Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Autocorrect: "share or export the index value"
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:25 Justin Smith  wrote:
>> I'm probably not the only one who has replaced loscil with a phasor, table reading, and end point calculating math, in order to share or export the indeed value (to line up playbacks or display position in a UI), perhaps we need an loscil that exposes its phase, either as an absolute index or normalized value
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:02 Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the phase information from
>> loscil not match up with the phasor if the sound file loops? Seems
>> like the internal phase information might be useful to have.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Joel Ramsbottom
>>  wrote:
>>> I've managed to send data with the following code. Pd has a slider that represents the output of phasor. However whats happening is it takes losil (which is receiving a 4min audio file) alot longer to get from 0 - 1 than the phasor. How can I correct this? Its hard to figure out because losil of course only has the audio output that will go from -1 to 1 which isn't the data needed. is there away losil can let us know where it is in its cps?
>>> 
>>> instr   106
>>> a1, a2 loscil  10000, 1, 5, 1, 1 ;sample-based looping oscillator
>>> kdisplay phasor 1
>>> ;ilen = ftlen 5
>>> ;isr = ftsr(5)
>>> outvalue "samp", kdisplay
>>>                out     a1, a2
>>>                endin
>>> 
>>> many thanks
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Could these not be poscil and loscil3 with distribution on number of outputs (1 or 2)?

Or is that too expensive?

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On Jan 31, 2018, 16:50, at 16:50, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>These opcodes are in now and documented. They are called loscilphs and
>loscil3phs and have a first output parameter that outputs the
>normalised phase.
>========================
>Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>Maynooth University,
>Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>Tel: 00 353 7086936
>Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
>
>> On 31 Jan 2018, at 16:37, Victor Lazzarini 
>wrote:
>> 
>> Working on this now. I have a version of loscil that outputs the
>audio-rate phase position as an extra parameter.
>> Will do loscil3, document and push
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
>> 
>>> On 30 Jan 2018, at 15:26, Justin Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Autocorrect: "share or export the index value"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:25 Justin Smith 
>wrote:
>>> I'm probably not the only one who has replaced loscil with a phasor,
>table reading, and end point calculating math, in order to share or
>export the indeed value (to line up playbacks or display position in a
>UI), perhaps we need an loscil that exposes its phase, either as an
>absolute index or normalized value
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:02 Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the phase information from
>>> loscil not match up with the phasor if the sound file loops? Seems
>>> like the internal phase information might be useful to have.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Joel Ramsbottom
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I've managed to send data with the following code. Pd has a slider
>that represents the output of phasor. However whats happening is it
>takes losil (which is receiving a 4min audio file) alot longer to get
>from 0 - 1 than the phasor. How can I correct this? Its hard to figure
>out because losil of course only has the audio output that will go from
>-1 to 1 which isn't the data needed. is there away losil can let us
>know where it is in its cps?
>>>> 
>>>> instr   106
>>>> a1, a2 loscil  10000, 1, 5, 1, 1 ;sample-based looping oscillator
>>>> kdisplay phasor 1
>>>> ;ilen = ftlen 5
>>>> ;isr = ftsr(5)
>>>> outvalue "samp", kdisplay
>>>>                out     a1, a2
>>>>                endin
>>>> 
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I could not find a way of discerning between stereo lposcil and mono + phs. If you know a way, we
should do it.

========================
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> On 31 Jan 2018, at 18:30, John ff  wrote:
> 
> Could these not be poscil and loscil3 with distribution on number of outputs (1 or 2)?
> 
> Or is that too expensive?
> 
> ⁣Sent from TypeApp ​
> 
> On Jan 31, 2018, 16:50, at 16:50, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> These opcodes are in now and documented. They are called loscilphs and
>> loscil3phs and have a first output parameter that outputs the
>> normalised phase.
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
>> 
>>> On 31 Jan 2018, at 16:37, Victor Lazzarini 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Working on this now. I have a version of loscil that outputs the
>> audio-rate phase position as an extra parameter.
>>> Will do loscil3, document and push
>>> ========================
>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>>> Maynooth University,
>>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Jan 2018, at 15:26, Justin Smith  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Autocorrect: "share or export the index value"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:25 Justin Smith 
>> wrote:
>>>> I'm probably not the only one who has replaced loscil with a phasor,
>> table reading, and end point calculating math, in order to share or
>> export the indeed value (to line up playbacks or display position in a
>> UI), perhaps we need an loscil that exposes its phase, either as an
>> absolute index or normalized value
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018, 07:02 Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the phase information from
>>>> loscil not match up with the phasor if the sound file loops? Seems
>>>> like the internal phase information might be useful to have.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Joel Ramsbottom
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> I've managed to send data with the following code. Pd has a slider
>> that represents the output of phasor. However whats happening is it
>> takes losil (which is receiving a 4min audio file) alot longer to get
>> from 0 - 1 than the phasor. How can I correct this? Its hard to figure
>> out because losil of course only has the audio output that will go from
>> -1 to 1 which isn't the data needed. is there away losil can let us
>> know where it is in its cps?
>>>>> 
>>>>> instr   106
>>>>> a1, a2 loscil  10000, 1, 5, 1, 1 ;sample-based looping oscillator
>>>>> kdisplay phasor 1
>>>>> ;ilen = ftlen 5
>>>>> ;isr = ftsr(5)
>>>>> outvalue "samp", kdisplay
>>>>>               out     a1, a2
>>>>>               endin
>>>>> 
>>>>> many thanks
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A!  forgot aout te stereo nature of loscil

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