Hi,

I have worked in a studio with a 5.1 system. It offer
many possibility but it is still to much
pointillistic. Because there is only five points and
no real intermediary between two speakers.
Have somebody ever experiment what surround system
will be more effective? I guess 10.2 is the key to
have a real dimension of a "big" space.

Nicolas 


	

	
		
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I recommend trying the ambisonics technique. You can find general 
information here: http://www.ambisonic.net/
And sound examples here: http://www.ambisonicbootlegs.net/

Frank


On 08-03-2006 08:49, Drweski nicolas wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have worked in a studio with a 5.1 system. It offer
> many possibility but it is still to much
> pointillistic. Because there is only five points and
> no real intermediary between two speakers.
> Have somebody ever experiment what surround system
> will be more effective? I guess 10.2 is the key to
> have a real dimension of a "big" space.
> 
> Nicolas 

Nicolas,

For the most general loudspeaker spatialization I recommend that you  
look at VBAP, developed by Ville Pulkki at the Helsinki University of  
Technology. It has been incorporated into the canonical CSound, details  
are here:

http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~ville/software/CSound_VBAP/

I did a project with a Java implementation which worked out great:

http://eamusic.dartmouth.edu/~ed/pdfs/47%20Childs.pdf

Best regards,

Edward Childs
On Mar 8, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Drweski nicolas wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have worked in a studio with a 5.1 system. It offer
> many possibility but it is still to much
> pointillistic. Because there is only five points and
> no real intermediary between two speakers.
> Have somebody ever experiment what surround system
> will be more effective? I guess 10.2 is the key to
> have a real dimension of a "big" space.
>
> Nicolas
>
>
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Hi Nicolas,

Working as a sound editor for films, I have some expirience. I find 5.1  
to be more than sufficient for making an illusion of a space, evne the  
old Dolby Suround.

When you say you find 5.1 to be pointillistic, are you sending a single  
sound to a single speaker, e.g. a atmosphere to one single channel?

To make a sound sound like it`s coming from the right of the room, the  
signal shouldn`t just be sent to right channel, but also to the center  
chanel with lower gain, and possibly the Rs channel to make it sound  
like it`s "in the room". When the sound is sent to all three channels  
it will sound fuller and not so pointillistic.

You can even delay the signal and send it to the left channel. And get  
a even fuller signall, while it will sound like it`s comming from the  
right.

Hope this was helpfull for you.

Bård Farbu

On Mar 8, 2006, at 16:49, Drweski nicolas wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have worked in a studio with a 5.1 system. It offer
> many possibility but it is still to much
> pointillistic. Because there is only five points and
> no real intermediary between two speakers.
> Have somebody ever experiment what surround system
> will be more effective? I guess 10.2 is the key to
> have a real dimension of a "big" space.
>
> Nicolas
>
>
> 	
>
> 	
> 		
> _______________________________________________________________________ 
> ____
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