gestual music
| Date | 2006-03-07 08:25 |
| From | Drweski nicolas |
| Subject | gestual music |
Does anyone have an idea if gloves or else work with csound, and how it works ? Is there any special programming for it use. Nicolas Drweski ___________________________________________________________________________ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com |
| Date | 2006-03-07 09:09 |
| From | Rory Walsh |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
As far as I know most gestural devices will send plain old MIDI messages. I haven't used any gloves but I have used the eowave eobody for some stuff and it just sends different midi messages on different channels. You can then parse the info as you like in csound. Rory. Drweski nicolas wrote: > Does anyone have an idea if gloves or else work with > csound, and how it works ? Is there any special > programming for it use. > > Nicolas Drweski > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com |
| Date | 2006-03-07 09:37 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
Is eowave worth buying? At 09:09 07/03/2006, you wrote: >As far as I know most gestural devices will send plain old MIDI messages. >I haven't used any gloves but I have used the eowave eobody for some stuff >and it just sends different midi messages on different channels. You can >then parse the info as you like in csound. > >Rory. > > > >Drweski nicolas wrote: >>Does anyone have an idea if gloves or else work with >>csound, and how it works ? Is there any special >>programming for it use. >>Nicolas Drweski >> >> >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les >>tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. >>Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com >-- >Send bugs reports to this list. >To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth |
| Date | 2006-03-07 09:51 |
| From | Rory Walsh |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
Yeah it's pretty good. Personally I much prefer it to Soundbeam or MIDIGesture. At around 400 euro's it's not the most expensive interface out there but then you have to pay extra for the sensors although one can also fairly easily make their own sensors if they wish. I think the introductory set of sensors is around 100 squids and includes an array of things such as basic on/off switches, infra red distance detectors, movement sensors, pressure sensors, and an interesting ribbon controller that can be worn on the body to send midi when the user moves, although in our case they wouldn't want to walk too far as they'd pull the PC off the desk! Rory. Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Is eowave worth buying? > > At 09:09 07/03/2006, you wrote: >> As far as I know most gestural devices will send plain old MIDI >> messages. I haven't used any gloves but I have used the eowave eobody >> for some stuff and it just sends different midi messages on different >> channels. You can then parse the info as you like in csound. >> >> Rory. >> >> >> >> Drweski nicolas wrote: >>> Does anyone have an idea if gloves or else work with >>> csound, and how it works ? Is there any special >>> programming for it use. >>> Nicolas Drweski >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les >>> tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. >>> Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com >> -- >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > > Victor Lazzarini > Music Technology Laboratory > Music Department > National University of Ireland, Maynooth |
| Date | 2006-03-07 09:59 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
How do you order the stuff? Is it directly with them? I think I'm going to get it for Ian's course. Is there a product name for the 'introductory set of sensors?' At 09:51 07/03/2006, you wrote: >Yeah it's pretty good. Personally I much prefer it to Soundbeam or >MIDIGesture. At around 400 euro's it's not the most expensive interface >out there but then you have to pay extra for the sensors although one can >also fairly easily make their own sensors if they wish. I think the >introductory set of sensors is around 100 squids and includes an array of >things such as basic on/off switches, infra red distance detectors, >movement sensors, pressure sensors, and an interesting ribbon controller >that can be worn on the body to send midi when the user moves, although in >our case they wouldn't want to walk too far as they'd pull the PC off the desk! > >Rory. > > > > >Victor Lazzarini wrote: >>Is eowave worth buying? >>At 09:09 07/03/2006, you wrote: >>>As far as I know most gestural devices will send plain old MIDI >>>messages. I haven't used any gloves but I have used the eowave eobody >>>for some stuff and it just sends different midi messages on different >>>channels. You can then parse the info as you like in csound. >>> >>>Rory. >>> >>> >>> >>>Drweski nicolas wrote: >>>>Does anyone have an idea if gloves or else work with >>>>csound, and how it works ? Is there any special >>>>programming for it use. >>>>Nicolas Drweski >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>___________________________________________________________________________ >>>>Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les >>>>tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. >>>>Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com >>>-- >>>Send bugs reports to this list. >>>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk >>Victor Lazzarini >>Music Technology Laboratory >>Music Department >>National University of Ireland, Maynooth >-- >Send bugs reports to this list. >To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth |
| Date | 2006-03-07 10:13 |
| From | Rory Walsh |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
As far as I can remember we ordered directly from them. The introductory kit is listed as Sensor Starter Kit in the order page. Rory. Victor Lazzarini wrote: > How do you order the stuff? Is it directly with them? I think I'm > going to get it for Ian's course. Is there a product name for the > 'introductory > set of sensors?' > > At 09:51 07/03/2006, you wrote: >> Yeah it's pretty good. Personally I much prefer it to Soundbeam or >> MIDIGesture. At around 400 euro's it's not the most expensive >> interface out there but then you have to pay extra for the sensors >> although one can also fairly easily make their own sensors if they >> wish. I think the introductory set of sensors is around 100 squids and >> includes an array of things such as basic on/off switches, infra red >> distance detectors, movement sensors, pressure sensors, and an >> interesting ribbon controller that can be worn on the body to send >> midi when the user moves, although in our case they wouldn't want to >> walk too far as they'd pull the PC off the desk! >> >> Rory. >> >> >> >> >> Victor Lazzarini wrote: >>> Is eowave worth buying? >>> At 09:09 07/03/2006, you wrote: >>>> As far as I know most gestural devices will send plain old MIDI >>>> messages. I haven't used any gloves but I have used the eowave >>>> eobody for some stuff and it just sends different midi messages on >>>> different channels. You can then parse the info as you like in csound. >>>> >>>> Rory. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Drweski nicolas wrote: >>>>> Does anyone have an idea if gloves or else work with >>>>> csound, and how it works ? Is there any special >>>>> programming for it use. >>>>> Nicolas Drweski >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez >>>>> les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. >>>>> Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com >>>> -- >>>> Send bugs reports to this list. >>>> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> Victor Lazzarini >>> Music Technology Laboratory >>> Music Department >>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >> -- >> Send bugs reports to this list. >> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > > Victor Lazzarini > Music Technology Laboratory > Music Department > National University of Ireland, Maynooth |
| Date | 2006-03-07 14:08 |
| From | "\\js" |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
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| Date | 2006-03-07 15:41 |
| From | David Akbari |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
now that Csound implements OSC opcodes, MIDI will increasingly become a thing of the past. It would be nice if they worked on Windows. -David On Mar 7, 2006, at 3:25 AM, Drweski nicolas wrote: > Does anyone have an idea if gloves or else work with > csound, and how it works ? Is there any special > programming for it use. > > Nicolas Drweski |
| Date | 2006-03-07 15:52 |
| From | Martin Peach |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
David Akbari wrote: > now that Csound implements OSC opcodes, MIDI will increasingly become > a thing of the past. Yes it would be nice if OSC worked on a MIDI circuit instead of just ethernet, it makes it harder to use microcontrollers like PICs and Stamps; the Rabbit is good for OSC. I think I'll try to implement OSC over MIDI and see if it works at all... > > It would be nice if they worked on Windows. > Of course OSC and MIDI work very well on Pure Data, so you could use csoundapi~ to control csound from pd. I'm just starting to use Processing as well, it has an OSC extension. It should be possible to control csound via OSC from Processing. Martin |
| Date | 2006-03-07 17:31 |
| From | Christopher Watts |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
I recently bought a Lemur control surface (it uses OSC as its data protocol), and I've been using it primarily with Max/MSP -- although I also intend to try it with Csound5. It does not transmit MIDI messages, but the Lemur's client software will map incoming OSC data to the MIDI message of your choice, allowing it to work with applications that don't support OSC. Of course, when you do this you're giving up the ridiculously high resolution of OSC messages, which by my count is 7812.5 times that of MIDI. Overkill? Yes. The folks who developed OSC make the case for its use not only in a networked /distributed environment, but also as a local protocol and even as a means for getting data around inside a single application. It will be interesting to see whether OSC will indeed replace MIDI eventually (or is 0-127 permanently burned into our brains?) Cheers, Chris ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Christopher Watts Director, Newell Center for Arts Technology Assistant Professor of Music St. Lawrence University Canton, NY 13617 315.229.5138 315.229.7425 fax cwatts@stlawu.edu "Everything is deeply intertwingled." -Ted Nelson On Mar 7, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Martin Peach wrote: > David Akbari wrote: > >> now that Csound implements OSC opcodes, MIDI will increasingly >> become a thing of the past. > > Yes it would be nice if OSC worked on a MIDI circuit instead of > just ethernet, it makes it harder to use microcontrollers like PICs > and Stamps; the Rabbit is good for OSC. I think I'll try to > implement OSC over MIDI and see if it works at all... |
| Date | 2006-03-07 18:24 |
| From | David Akbari |
| Subject | Re: gestual music |
On Mar 7, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Martin Peach wrote: >> It would be nice if they worked on Windows. >> > Of course OSC and MIDI work very well on Pure Data, so you could use > csoundapi~ to control csound from pd. I'm just starting to use > Processing as well, it has an OSC extension. It should be possible to > control csound via OSC from Processing. You are correct in the assertion that MIDI is still the best way to go hardware wise, but I feel like it's only a matter of time before someone implements some kind of firmware to deal with the parsing and transmission of OSC at the continuously blurring line between hardware and software. ..and Yes, using [sendOSC] and [dumpOSC] has been the workaround at present on Windows, but when speaking strictly to the idea of music composition sometimes it's desirable not to run any frontend and to just devote all processing to producing sound. I've tried to compile the OSC opcodes on Windows in the Mingw and Cygwin environments but to no avail. It was working at one time wasn't it? I wonder if there has been any progress on this front? Also using OSC has the advantage of using multiple computers in sync which is something I find compositionally useful. Here's an example of a UDO that implements an OSC conversion of an Oxygen8 MIDI controller that I use between Linux and OS X a lot. Following is a Pd patch that translates the Oxygen8 data for transmission as a small example. |