[Csnd] Lacking csound simple/intermediate compositions and .csd files/code to learn
| Date | 2018-01-09 14:38 |
| From | Douglas Doherty |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Lacking csound simple/intermediate compositions and .csd files/code to learn |
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I have been revisiting C Sound and have found some of the examples useful but I feel as if they're missing basic building blocks eg a .csd playing a sample and adding a variety of processes such as panning and filtering. Also a bit more sense of how the P Fields work would be good. I am not a computing person (though I cut my teeth a long time ago on MUSIC 11 at Durham) and I sometimes find the instructions/explanations obscure.
Mostly the examples were for me a bit hard to fathom. I do realise this is a complex language and that its flexibility requires it to be broad.
D
Dr Douglas Doherty Managing Director, DACS Ltd Unit A19 Stonehills, Shields Road, PELAW, NE10 0HW Tel +44 191 438 2500 www.dacs-audio.com From: A discussion list for users of Csound <CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> on behalf of Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@GMAIL.COM>
Sent: 09 January 2018 14:24:58 To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lacking csound simple/intermediate compositions and .csd files/code to learn The purposes of the Csound Showcase, in no particular order of importance, are:
-- To show some pieces of GOOD MUSIC made with Csound that play in the browser so you can both listen to them, and see the code that made them. -- To show pieces AT ALL LEVELS OF DIFFICULTY from beginner to advanced that play in the browser so you can both listen to them, and see the code that made them. -- To show pieces that demonstrate particular techniques of musical composition, Csound instrument design, and user interface design. -- To allow the visitor to modify existing pieces AT ALL LEVELS and hear the results right away. If that visitor belongs to the site, the modified piece can be posted back for others to see and share also. Regards, Mike ----------------------------------------------------- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:19 AM, Zoe Byrne <crazypiano1000@gmail.com> wrote: > The point of my message is missing in all the responses (with the exception > of Michael Gogins). I'll try to be more clear: > There is ***NOT*** links to music composed with csound and their .csd files. > (not in csound.com and not in www.csounds.com > The result is that every beginner remains without any model and with the > feeling "I will never get there" and abandone csound. > This should be repaired with (not less than 40) links to compositions and > their .csd files, in all levels. From the most simple to the most complex. > People (teachers) capable to repair this (if I guess right) are: Joachim > Heintz, Oveynd Brandtseg, Victor Lazzarini, Richard Boulanger, Tarmo > Joahnnes,.... others...(?) > The link given by Michale Gogins (http://csound-showcase.com. ) contains > compositions that there are not beginner level and not intermediate level > (with the exception perhaps of "Blue Cube"). > The full original message is here below. > > > > Hello all, > as a composer that began to compose to the piano, the models have been > "Little preludes and fugues", "Inventions for 2 and 3 voices", "Well > tempered clavier" all by Bach, together with some of the piano sonatas of > Mozart. > In one sentence, there is a graduality from simple to complex, when > beginning to compose. > Nothing like this can be found in http://csound.com/ ***an > The links in http://csound.com/listen.html > do no contain any .csd files or even any hint about how the music were > composed. > The result is that every beginner remains without any model and with the > feeling "I will never get there" and abandone csound. > This should be repaired with (not less than 40) links to compositions and > their .csd files, in all levels. From the most simple to the most complex. > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> > wrote: >> >> The other way round: csound.com above csounds.com. That’s what we need, >> since csound.com is the community site. >> ======================== >> Prof. Victor Lazzarini >> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy, >> Maynooth University, >> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland >> Tel: 00 353 7086936 >> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 >> >> > On 9 Jan 2018, at 12:45, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > The mysteries of search engine optimization... the ideal thing from >> > our point of view would be if csounds.com simply redirected to >> > csound.com, but I doubt Richard Boulanger would agree to that. >> > >> > The next best thing would be if csounds.com had a prominent link to >> > csound.com. Wait... it does! >> > >> > So I don't think there is much to do here. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Mike >> > >> > ----------------------------------------------------- >> > Michael Gogins >> > Irreducible Productions >> > http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com >> > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg >> > <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote: >> >> Speaking of which, a lot of students find it very confusing that there >> >> are 2 >> >> websites, and that csounds.com appear higher in the serach ranking, so >> >> they >> >> will find it first. >> >> Then it is not the most updated one..., goes for both downloads and for >> >> the >> >> manual. Dr B.? Perhaps it would be possible to find a solution to this? >> >> >> >> 2018-01-09 9:56 GMT+01:00 joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de>: >> >>> >> >>> i think the link is there: >> >>> Community > The Csound Showcase >> >>> >> >>> there is a difference between csound.com and csounds.com: >> >>> - csound.com is the same as csound.github.io. it is maintained by >> >>> steven >> >>> yi and some others (including me). the sources are visible at >> >>> http://github.com/csound/csound.github.io >> >>> - csounds.com is maintained by richard boulanger. >> >>> >> >>> you are welcome for further suggestions and contributions =) >> >>> >> >>> joachim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 09/01/18 08:08, Zoe Byrne wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> That link ***MUST*** be in csound.com <http://csound.com> >> >>>> I don't dare to ask this to Richard Boulanger (probably will not even >> >>>> consider my question). If you or any known user/developer ask him, >> >>>> probably will be succesfull. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:35 AM, Michael Gogins >> >>>> <michael.gogins@gmail.com >> >>>> <mailto:michael.gogins@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Check out http://csound-showcase.com. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Jan 8, 2018 9:44 PM, "Zoe Byrne" <crazypiano1000@gmail.com >> >>>> <mailto:crazypiano1000@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hello all, >> >>>> as a composer that began to compose to the piano, the models >> >>>> have been "Little preludes and fugues", "Inventions for 2 and >> >>>> 3 >> >>>> voices", "Well tempered clavier" all by Bach, together with >> >>>> some >> >>>> of the piano sonatas of Mozart. >> >>>> In one sentence, there is a graduality from simple to complex, >> >>>> when beginning to compose. >> >>>> Nothing like this can be found in http://csound.com/ >> >>>> The links in http://csound.com/listen.html >> >>>> do no contain any .csd files or even any hint about how the >> >>>> music were composed. >> >>>> The result is that every beginner remains without any model >> >>>> and >> >>>> with the feeling "I will never get there" and abandone csound. >> >>>> This should be repaired with (not less than 40) links to >> >>>> compositions and their .csd files, in all levels. From the >> >>>> most >> >>>> simple to the most complex. >> >>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> >>>> <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> >> >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> >>>> <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs >> >>>> reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> >>>> <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs >> >>>> and features can be posted here >> >>>> >> >>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> >>>> <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> >> >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> >>>> <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs >> >>>> reports >> >>>> to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> >>>> <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and >> >>>> features can be posted here >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> >>>> <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> >> >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to >> >>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and >> >>>> features >> >>>> can be posted here >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Csound mailing list >> >>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> >>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> >>> Send bugs reports to >> >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg >> >> Professor of Music Technology >> >> NTNU >> >> 7491 Trondheim >> >> Norway >> >> Cell: +47 92 203 205 >> >> >> >> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/ >> >> http://crossadaptive.hf.ntnu.no >> >> http://gdsp.hf.ntnu.no/ >> >> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg >> >> http://flyndresang.no/ >> >> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp >> >> >> >> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to >> >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and >> >> features can >> >> be posted here >> > >> > Csound mailing list >> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> > Send bugs reports to >> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >> Csound mailing list >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND >> Send bugs reports to >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can > be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here |
| Date | 2018-01-10 15:58 |
| From | Douglas Doherty |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd] Lacking csound simple/intermediate compositions and .csd files/code to learn |
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I agree with Joachim here - there are many programs that almost dictate the way you work, and really should be treated as tools in your compositional arsenal. Max/MSP, Ableton, Audio Mulch etc etc. C Sound can do other things in ways these programs cannot and it is enabling users to take advantage of these qualities that is I think key to how it is presented. Other compositional tutorials should refer to a C Sound tutorial as a possibly useful medium or system to visit!
Douglas
Dr Douglas Doherty Managing Director, DACS Ltd Unit A19 Stonehills, Shields Road, PELAW, NE10 0HW Tel +44 191 438 2500 www.dacs-audio.com From: A discussion list for users of Csound <CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> on behalf of joachim heintz <jh@JOACHIMHEINTZ.DE>
Sent: 10 January 2018 15:44:02 To: CSOUND@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE Subject: Re: [Csnd] Lacking csound simple/intermediate compositions and .csd files/code to learn on one hand i agree that it would be good to have more examples
collected, and give links to them etc. on the other hand i disagree with your general approach regarding a composition tutorial in csound. in my opiniion, 1. there is no such model, and 2. it is not csound's job to go into this direction. i am sorry the explanation gets a bit longer ... : -> 1. which model? with your example models (bach and mozart) you refer to a historical situation in central europe in the 18th century. at this time, in this region, there was something like "the" musical language — although no, actually bach and mozart already have quite different languages and ways to compose. so i must correct myself: not even in this time, in central europe, there was something universal. it changed significantly between bach (say 1730) and mozart (say 1780). so there are only certain single (more or less different) models, bound to a historical situation, for instance: - how to compose a motet like guillaume de machaut. - how to compose a kyrie like josquin desprez. - how to compose a fugue like johann sebastian bach. - how to compose a sonata like mozart. - how to compose a prélude like debussy. - how to compose a free-atonal piano piece like schoenberg. - how to compose something like "structures" from boulez. and these are all only examples from the european point of view. there are also quite different ways of composing music in different cultures, just to mention some few: - how to compose a japanese gagaku piece. - how to compose a chinese nanguan piece. - how to compose a south indian vranam piece. - how to compose a piece in an iranian dastgah. - etc etc etc ... in short: we are living in a situation where THERE IS NO COMMON MODEL IN COMPOSITION. there are some historical ones (amongst them bach and mozart). even following this line, ending up in what we call contemporary music, there are so many different ways and technics of composing — we cannot bring them into one model ----- not to speak about other ways of making music, and not to speak about the thousands and thousands of other music cultures in the world. -> 2. csound and composing csound is an audio programming language which offers the possibility to compose ANY music. and that's one of its strengths, in my opinion. when we wrote the csound floss manual, we tried to give an introduction to programming in csound, and to the models of working in the electronic domain, but not to composing. not only because there is no such model, but also because it would restrict the usage of csound. and i think people should not expect this from csound. so: examples yes, and good when they are attracting and inspiring. but there can be no tutorial "from simple to complex", as you wish, to learn composing electronic music. my half cent ... =) joachim On 09/01/18 15:19, Zoe Byrne wrote: > The point of my message is missing in all the responses (with the > exception of Michael Gogins). I'll try to be more clear: > There is ***NOT*** links to music composed with csound and their .csd > files. (not in csound.com <http://csound.com> and not in www.csounds.com > <http://www.csounds.com> > The result is that every beginner remains without any model and with the > feeling "I will never get there" and abandone csound. > This should be repaired with (not less than 40) links to compositions > and their .csd files, in all levels. From the most simple to the most > complex. > People (teachers) capable to repair this (if I guess right) are: Joachim > Heintz, Oveynd Brandtseg, Victor Lazzarini, Richard Boulanger, Tarmo > Joahnnes,.... others...(?) > The link given by Michale Gogins (http://csound-showcase.com > <http://csound-showcase.com/>. ) contains compositions that there are > not beginner level and not intermediate level (with the exception > perhaps of "Blue Cube"). > The full original message is here below. > > > > Hello all, > as a composer that began to compose to the piano, the models have been > "Little preludes and fugues", "Inventions for 2 and 3 voices", "Well > tempered clavier" all by Bach, together with some of the piano sonatas > of Mozart. > In one sentence, there is a graduality from simple to complex, when > beginning to compose. > Nothing like this can be found in http://csound.com/ ***an > The links in http://csound.com/listen.html > do no contain any .csd files or even any hint about how the music were > composed. > The result is that every beginner remains without any model and with the > feeling "I will never get there" and abandone csound. > This should be repaired with (not less than 40) links to compositions > and their .csd files, in all levels. From the most simple to the most > complex. > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie > <mailto:Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie>> wrote: > > The other way round: csound.com <http://csound.com> above > csounds.com <http://csounds.com>. That’s what we need, > since csound.com <http://csound.com> is the community site. > ======================== > Prof. Victor Lazzarini > Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy, > Maynooth University, > Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland > Tel: 00 353 7086936 > Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 <tel:00%20353%201%207086952> > > > On 9 Jan 2018, at 12:45, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com > <mailto:michael.gogins@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > The mysteries of search engine optimization... the ideal thing from > > our point of view would be if csounds.com <http://csounds.com> > simply redirected to > > csound.com <http://csound.com>, but I doubt Richard Boulanger > would agree to that. > > > > The next best thing would be if csounds.com <http://csounds.com> > had a prominent link to > > csound.com <http://csound.com>. Wait... it does! > > > > So I don't think there is much to do here. > > > > Regards, > > Mike > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Michael Gogins > > Irreducible Productions > > http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com <http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com> > > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg > > <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no <mailto:oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no>> wrote: > >> Speaking of which, a lot of students find it very confusing that > there are 2 > >> websites, and that csounds.com <http://csounds.com> appear higher > in the serach ranking, so they > >> will find it first. > >> Then it is not the most updated one..., goes for both downloads > and for the > >> manual. Dr B.? Perhaps it would be possible to find a solution to > this? > >> > >> 2018-01-09 9:56 GMT+01:00 joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de > <mailto:jh@joachimheintz.de>>: > >>> > >>> i think the link is there: > >>> Community > The Csound Showcase > >>> > >>> there is a difference between csound.com <http://csound.com> and > csounds.com <http://csounds.com>: > >>> - csound.com <http://csound.com> is the same as csound.github.io > <http://csound.github.io>. it is maintained by steven > >>> yi and some others (including me). the sources are visible at > >>> http://github.com/csound/csound.github.io > <http://github.com/csound/csound.github.io> > >>> - csounds.com <http://csounds.com> is maintained by richard > boulanger. > >>> > >>> you are welcome for further suggestions and contributions =) > >>> > >>> joachim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 09/01/18 08:08, Zoe Byrne wrote: > >>>> > >>>> That link ***MUST*** be in csound.com <http://csound.com> > <http://csound.com> > >>>> I don't dare to ask this to Richard Boulanger (probably will > not even > >>>> consider my question). If you or any known user/developer ask him, > >>>> probably will be succesfull. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 6:35 AM, Michael Gogins > <michael.gogins@gmail.com <mailto:michael.gogins@gmail.com> > >>>> <mailto:michael.gogins@gmail.com > <mailto:michael.gogins@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Check out http://csound-showcase.com. > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 8, 2018 9:44 PM, "Zoe Byrne" > <crazypiano1000@gmail.com <mailto:crazypiano1000@gmail.com> > >>>> <mailto:crazypiano1000@gmail.com > <mailto:crazypiano1000@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello all, > >>>> as a composer that began to compose to the piano, the models > >>>> have been "Little preludes and fugues", "Inventions for > 2 and 3 > >>>> voices", "Well tempered clavier" all by Bach, together > with some > >>>> of the piano sonatas of Mozart. > >>>> In one sentence, there is a graduality from simple to > complex, > >>>> when beginning to compose. > >>>> Nothing like this can be found in http://csound.com/ > >>>> The links in http://csound.com/listen.html > >>>> do no contain any .csd files or even any hint about how the > >>>> music were composed. > >>>> The result is that every beginner remains without any > model and > >>>> with the feeling "I will never get there" and abandone > csound. > >>>> This should be repaired with (not less than 40) links to > >>>> compositions and their .csd files, in all levels. From > the most > >>>> simple to the most complex. > >>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > >>>> <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie>> > >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > >>>> <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND>> Send bugs > >>>> reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> > >>>> <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues>> Discussions of bugs > >>>> and features can be posted here > >>>> > >>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > >>>> <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie>> > >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > >>>> <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND>> Send bugs reports > >>>> to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> > >>>> <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues>> Discussions of bugs and > >>>> features can be posted here > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > >>>> <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie>> > >>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs reports to > >>>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features > >>>> can be posted here > >>> > >>> > >>> Csound mailing list > >>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > >>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > >>> Send bugs reports to > >>> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> > >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Oeyvind Brandtsegg > >> Professor of Music Technology > >> NTNU > >> 7491 Trondheim > >> Norway > >> Cell: +47 92 203 205 <tel:%2B47%2092%20203%20205> > >> > >> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/ > >> http://crossadaptive.hf.ntnu.no <http://crossadaptive.hf.ntnu.no> > >> http://gdsp.hf.ntnu.no/ > >> http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg <http://soundcloud.com/brandtsegg> > >> http://flyndresang.no/ > >> http://soundcloud.com/t-emp > >> > >> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> Send bugs reports to > >> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> Discussions of bugs and > features can > >> be posted here > > > > Csound mailing list > > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > > Send bugs reports to > > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> > > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > > Csound mailing list > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND > <https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND> > Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues > <https://github.com/csound/csound/issues> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie > <mailto:Csound@listserv.heanet.ie> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features > can be posted here Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here |