nGen is a fine utility. Due to the various issues with Score 11 Windows
version, I took the considerable time a number of years ago to convert my
three Score 11 "scores" to nGen.

Though nGen owes a lot to Score 11, I can assure you that the conversion was
not the trivial task I had anticipated.

Question: What is involved in "assimilation into canonical Csound" for nGen,
or in "adding it to the Csound distribution?" Would it involve any changes
to either Csound5 or to nGen?

IMO, both are fine by themselves. Of course, nGen could always be expanded
(with new features) to include expanded potential of Csound scoring. But I
think that is a different issue.

Or are we talking of some sort of front-end integration (as with an editor)?

Side note: strange that Mikel's downloads are unavailable when all other
portions of his site, including those related to nGen, seem fine.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Kozar" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Csnd] [Fwd: nGen]


> I have been considering asking Mikel for the nGen source for some time
now.
> I particularly wanted to fix some bugs in the Macintosh GUI.  And I
believe
> that if it were to be open-sourced it could be THE standard score
generator
> for Csound.  (It would replace Cmask and Score 11 -- the first being
> closed-source and the second not even being free?).  IIRC, the Cecilia
score
> language, Cybil, is simlar to these programs as well, though.
>
> Anyways, I too would love to add nGen to the Csound distribution.  I could
> make an appeal to Mikel Kuehn if people would like me to.  (I went to
school
> about 25 miles from where he teaches).
>
> (BTW, I have MacOS 9 and MacOS X binaries.  I would gladly email them to
> whomever needs them).
>
> Anthony Kozar
> anthonykozar@sbcglobal.net
> http://akozar.spymac.net/
>
>
> David Akbari wrote on 9/8/05 8:37 PM:
>
> > If the resources have no plans to be re-hosted at:
> >
> > http://mustec.bgsu.edu/~mkuehn/ngen/
> >
> > then it would be nice to at least see some source code so that
> > assimilation to canonical Csound could at least be a possibility.
>
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i know i say this everytime score generation comes up ..

but it is relatively easy to write a csound instrument to do score 
generation, either real-time with event/schedule opcodes or to a file with 
prints.

-m

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Art Hunkins wrote:

> nGen is a fine utility. Due to the various issues with Score 11 Windows
> version, I took the considerable time a number of years ago to convert my
> three Score 11 "scores" to nGen.
>
> Though nGen owes a lot to Score 11, I can assure you that the conversion was
> not the trivial task I had anticipated.
>
> Question: What is involved in "assimilation into canonical Csound" for nGen,
> or in "adding it to the Csound distribution?" Would it involve any changes
> to either Csound5 or to nGen?
>
> IMO, both are fine by themselves. Of course, nGen could always be expanded
> (with new features) to include expanded potential of Csound scoring. But I
> think that is a different issue.
>
> Or are we talking of some sort of front-end integration (as with an editor)?
>
> Side note: strange that Mikel's downloads are unavailable when all other
> portions of his site, including those related to nGen, seem fine.
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Kozar" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] [Fwd: nGen]
>
>
>> I have been considering asking Mikel for the nGen source for some time
> now.
>> I particularly wanted to fix some bugs in the Macintosh GUI.  And I
> believe
>> that if it were to be open-sourced it could be THE standard score
> generator
>> for Csound.  (It would replace Cmask and Score 11 -- the first being
>> closed-source and the second not even being free?).  IIRC, the Cecilia
> score
>> language, Cybil, is simlar to these programs as well, though.
>>
>> Anyways, I too would love to add nGen to the Csound distribution.  I could
>> make an appeal to Mikel Kuehn if people would like me to.  (I went to
> school
>> about 25 miles from where he teaches).
>>
>> (BTW, I have MacOS 9 and MacOS X binaries.  I would gladly email them to
>> whomever needs them).
>>
>> Anthony Kozar
>> anthonykozar@sbcglobal.net
>> http://akozar.spymac.net/
>>
>>
>> David Akbari wrote on 9/8/05 8:37 PM:
>>
>>> If the resources have no plans to be re-hosted at:
>>>
>>> http://mustec.bgsu.edu/~mkuehn/ngen/
>>>
>>> then it would be nice to at least see some source code so that
>>> assimilation to canonical Csound could at least be a possibility.
>>
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