Without gcc 4 there is no compilation with boost templates, without boost templates there is no CsoundVST; therefore, no CsoundVST without Tiger.

Regards,
Mike

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From: David Akbari 
Sent: Aug 27, 2005 8:56 PM
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [Csnd] Csound 5 status

Hi Istvan,

On Aug 27, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Istvan Varga wrote:

> I may try porting these opcodes if you send the original (Csound 4)
> source code.
>

The original source code for the ATS opcodes are called "ugnorman" 
.c/.h respectively. I put them on cSounds.com and they can be found at 
the following URLs (as opposed to posting a lot of text to a mailing 
list).

http://www.csounds.com/resources/ugnorman.h
http://www.csounds.com/resources/ugnorman.c

I have been able to make some minor progress from your last email that 
was detailing various Csound4 functions and their Csound5 equivalents 
(very helpful!!) but what I still lack in both Csound5 and Csound4 is a 
way to tie in things like "strsmax", "strsets", "sstrcod", etc with the 
GLOBALS structure (Csound4) and CSOUND structure (Csound5).

> Many of these issues are unfortunately the result of Mac developers
> contributing nothing to Csound 5 development,

In our unique community, when an individual can be both a programmer 
and a musician simultaneously, it's no surprise (albeit unfortunate) 
that things (or gigs) can come up and get in the way of development.

>  while all the currently
> active main developers of Csound 5 and CsoundVST use either Linux or 
> Windows.
> The only significant OS X specific addition in the last few months was 
> the
> new CoreAudio plugin by Victor Lazzarini.

You are of course right about the status of Csound5 development on the 
Macintosh platform; but it's thanks to individuals like Victor 
Lazzarini (his "Extensions to Csound" paper) and Anthony Kozar that the 
information necessary to get other individuals into contributing to 
Csound that were previously unable to do so is now increasingly more 
possible than it was previously.

Hopefully in time, individuals such as myself will be able to 
contribute something to active Csound development on the Macintosh... 
however IMHO, Mac OS 10.4 Tiger's "new features" are at best 
unappealing and I don't plan on updating from 10.3.9 in the near 
future. The only downside is no GCC 4. =\


-David

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Apple's own statistics last June indicated about 50% of users still using
10.2 ("Jaguar") and 5% using 10.1 or older.  I forget the number still using
10.3 ("Panther") but probably 25-30%.

Do you really want to limit the availability of CsoundVST to maybe only 20%
of current OS X users?  I assume since gcc4 is new that CsoundVST used to
compile with a version of Boost that did not require it ...

Anthony

Michael Gogins wrote on 8/27/05 10:17 PM:

> Without gcc 4 there is no compilation with boost templates, without boost
> templates there is no CsoundVST; therefore, no CsoundVST without Tiger.

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Anthony Kozar wrote:

> Apple's own statistics last June indicated about 50% of users still using
> 10.2 ("Jaguar") and 5% using 10.1 or older.  I forget the number still using
> 10.3 ("Panther") but probably 25-30%.
> 
> Do you really want to limit the availability of CsoundVST to maybe only 20%
> of current OS X users?  I assume since gcc4 is new that CsoundVST used to
> compile with a version of Boost that did not require it ...

Actually, CsoundVST does not seem to compile with GCC 4 at all, at least not
on Linux with GCC 4.0.0. Maybe the Mac version of the compiler is different
- not unlikely - or I need to upgrade to 4.0.1 (but I prefer waiting for 4.1)
assuming it fixes some bugs responsible for breaking the CsoundVST build, but
for now I can only compile CsoundVST with GCC 3. The rest of the Csound source
code builds fine with either compiler version, without even any warnings other
than the usual one at link time related to the use of "tmpnam".
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