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[Csnd] What to do? - The CsoundQT 7.4 folder is empty and Csound6 (for the Mac) is...

Date2013-07-22 10:48
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject[Csnd] What to do? - The CsoundQT 7.4 folder is empty and Csound6 (for the Mac) is...
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@ CsoundQt on SourceForge - The CsoundQT 7.4 folder is empty
- is there a CsoundQt6 anywhere on the horizon?

@  CsoundQt on SourceForge the "Nightly" version of CsoundQt is quite old ?
- pre Csound6 I believe

What to recommend to the remaining student that have not dropped out of the Csound class
as a result of all the confusion and all the crashing this summer?

Not sure if any of you have experienced this on a Mac, but MIDI in CsoundQt is a nightmare 
(one must  "Run in Terminal" - not particularly exciting for beginners)
(any MIDI widget example is not working at all)

Install Csound6 - and csound~ silences all CsoundForLive instruments
(people are asking for their $$ back - of course)
(students can't get started)
(Does Cabbage work with Csound6?)

Maybe it has changed by now, but the Csound6 release for the Mac 
did not include CsoundQt6  
(for most beginners especially...  CsoundQt is Csound.)

Advice for my students would be most appreciated.
- I have been telling them to roll back to 5.19 and
use and old version of CsoundQt (but MIDI is still a 
mess with "any" version of CsoundQt - thanks to Apple's
latest OS updates (which they can not roll back from
as this is needed for other software in other classes.)


- Dr.B.

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Office @ 161 Mass Ave - 4th Floor
617-747-2485 (office)  774-488-9166 (cell)
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Date2013-07-22 20:47
FromAndres Cabrera
Subject[Csnd] Re: What to do? - The CsoundQT 7.4 folder is empty and Csound6 (for the Mac) is...
Hi,


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
@ CsoundQt on SourceForge - The CsoundQT 7.4 folder is empty
- is there a CsoundQt6 anywhere on the horizon?

Yes! It will be there in the upcoming bug fix release for Csound6 

@  CsoundQt on SourceForge the "Nightly" version of CsoundQt is quite old ?
- pre Csound6 I believe

Yes, the nightly build is pre Csound6, but I've been in contact with Johannes to set up a nightly build system for Csound6Qt.
 
What to recommend to the remaining student that have not dropped out of the Csound class
as a result of all the confusion and all the crashing this summer?

I think the best thing would be to wait for the upcoming release.

Not sure if any of you have experienced this on a Mac, but MIDI in CsoundQt is a nightmare 
(one must  "Run in Terminal" - not particularly exciting for beginners)
(any MIDI widget example is not working at all)

I have experienced it. It's a 10.8 issue only, as I explained in another post, I have implemented a work around, but couldn't get around to releasing a binary. I'm focusing my time on the release for Csound6.
 
Install Csound6 - and csound~ silences all CsoundForLive instruments
(people are asking for their $$ back - of course)
(students can't get started)
(Does Cabbage work with Csound6?)

I think this is an issue that needs to be solved for Csound 6.00.1. The installer should not overwrite previous installations. This should certainly be possible as the new framework is more self-contained (I think it won't install stuff into /usr/local anymore).


Maybe it has changed by now, but the Csound6 release for the Mac 
did not include CsoundQt6  
(for most beginners especially...  CsoundQt is Csound.)


Since the API has changed, it has taken a while for front-ends to catch up, but it's going to improve over time. I think Cabbage has not yet been ported, but frontends that don't rely on the API (like WinXsound should still work fine).

I know we've been asking for patience for too long... But I think things should really stabilize once we get the bug fix for Csound6 out the door.

Cheers,
Andrés

Date2013-07-22 22:21
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: [Csnd] What to do? - The CsoundQT 7.4 folder is empty and Csound6 (for the Mac) is...

Advice for my students would be most appreciated.

I know! Do a quick release of CsTouch and have them start with that :-D
Ok, I admit it's just so I can get my dirty mitts on it myself. 


Regards,
/Anders


Date2013-07-22 22:34
FromJacques Leplat
SubjectRe: [Csnd] What to do? - The CsoundQT 7.4 folder is empty and Csound6 (for the Mac) is...


I know! Do a quick release of CsTouch and have them start with that :-D
Ok, I admit it's just so I can get my dirty mitts on it myself. 


Regards,
/Anders

Yes, though it would get released instantly on Android's App Store, no need to wait for big bother to approve the app.

All the best,

Jacques