Hi,

I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote - a user-friendly app for controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer, tablet or smartphone.

https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases

See two demos:

General introduction:

https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA

How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control Csound in 10 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g

Since version 6.11 Csound has very flexible control over UDP messages and I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to tablet that is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table connected with the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make it more available for anyone. I have built an app that takes care of sending/receiving the UDP messages, has a generic builtin interface and is able to load custom interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can use calls similar to usual Csound API, and that's it. For example:

Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value", position) }

QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.

There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:

https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3

you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app.

Not all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider, Knob, SpinBox) work fine.

You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:

https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2

When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and make also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely possible (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet, how to deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file management...)

Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!

tarmo

Wonderful!

Can we have a news item on csound.com?
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952 

> On 21 Jan 2019, at 13:24, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
>  I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote -  a user-friendly app for controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer, tablet or smartphone.
> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases
>  
> See two demos:
> General introduction:
> https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA
>  
> How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control Csound in 10 minutes:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g
>  
>  
> Since version 6.11 Csound  has very flexible control over UDP messages and I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to tablet that is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table connected with the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make it more available for anyone. I have built an app that takes care of sending/receiving the UDP messages, has a generic builtin interface and is able to load custom interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can use calls similar to usual Csound API, and that's it. For example:
>  
>  Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value", position) }
>  
> QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.  
>  
> There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:
> https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3
> you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app.
> Not all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider, Knob, SpinBox) work fine.
>  
> You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:
> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
>  
> When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and make also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely possible (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet, how to deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file management...)
>  
> Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!
>  
> tarmo
>  
>  
>  
> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports tohttps://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

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Thanks!

Yes, for sure, I don't know how to enter the news but if someone can do it for 
me, perhaps text like:

----
CsoundRemote released.

CsoundRemote is a user-friendly app for controlling Csound via UDP messages 
from the same or other computer, tablet or smartphone. It enables to use a 
generic built in user interface or load custom interfaces in QML format.

Release:
https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2 

See more: https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md for 
more information

----

And I attach a screenshot for picture and icon, if needed.

tarmo
---

On Monday, January 21, 2019 3:44:16 PM EET you wrote:
> Wonderful!
> 
> Can we have a news item on csound.com?
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
> Maynooth University,
> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
> Tel: 00 353 7086936
> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
> 
> > On 21 Jan 2019, at 13:24, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >  I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote -  a user-friendly app for
> >  controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer,
> >  tablet or smartphone.> 
> > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases
> > 
> > See two demos:
> > General introduction:
> > https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA
> > 
> > How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control Csound
> > in 10 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g
> > 
> > Since version 6.11 Csound  has very flexible control over UDP messages and 
I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to tablet that 
is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table connected with 
the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make it more available for 
anyone. I have built an app that takes care of sending/receiving the UDP 
messages, has a generic builtin interface and is able to load custom 
interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can use calls similar to usual 
Csound API, and that's it. For example:
> >  Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value",
> >  position) }> 
> > QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to
> > quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.
> > 
> > There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:
> > https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3
> > you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your
> > mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app. Not
> > all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider, Knob,
> > SpinBox) work fine.
> > 
> > You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:
> > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
> > 
> > When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and make
> > also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely possible
> > (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet, how to
> > deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file
> > management...)
> > 
> > Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!
> > 
> > tarmo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports
> > tohttps://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and
> > features can be posted here
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here


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done =)

https://csound.com/site/news/2019/01/21/csound-remote

	j



On 21/01/19 14:59, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Yes, for sure, I don't know how to enter the news but if someone can do it for
> me, perhaps text like:
>
> ----
> CsoundRemote released.
>
> CsoundRemote is a user-friendly app for controlling Csound via UDP messages
> from the same or other computer, tablet or smartphone. It enables to use a
> generic built in user interface or load custom interfaces in QML format.
>
> Release:
> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
>
> See more: https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/blob/master/README.md for
> more information
>
> ----
>
> And I attach a screenshot for picture and icon, if needed.
>
> tarmo
> ---
>
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 3:44:16 PM EET you wrote:
>> Wonderful!
>>
>> Can we have a news item on csound.com?
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy,
>> Maynooth University,
>> Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
>> Tel: 00 353 7086936
>> Fax: 00 353 1 7086952
>>
>>> On 21 Jan 2019, at 13:24, Tarmo Johannes  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote -  a user-friendly app for
>>>  controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer,
>>>  tablet or smartphone.>
>>> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases
>>>
>>> See two demos:
>>> General introduction:
>>> https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA
>>>
>>> How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control Csound
>>> in 10 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g
>>>
>>> Since version 6.11 Csound  has very flexible control over UDP messages and
> I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to tablet that
> is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table connected with
> the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make it more available for
> anyone. I have built an app that takes care of sending/receiving the UDP
> messages, has a generic builtin interface and is able to load custom
> interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can use calls similar to usual
> Csound API, and that's it. For example:
>>>  Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value",
>>>  position) }>
>>> QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to
>>> quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.
>>>
>>> There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:
>>> https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3
>>> you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your
>>> mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app. Not
>>> all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider, Knob,
>>> SpinBox) work fine.
>>>
>>> You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:
>>> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
>>>
>>> When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and make
>>> also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely possible
>>> (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet, how to
>>> deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file
>>> management...)
>>>
>>> Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!
>>>
>>> tarmo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports
>>> tohttps://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and
>>> features can be posted here
>> Csound mailing list
>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
>
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>

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hi tarmo -

this is really great stuff.  thanks so much for it, and also for the 
demos!!  it really shows everything we need to know.

i was wondering in which situation you would prefer OSC over the --port 
option.  do you have any opinion about it?

best -
	joachim



On 21/01/19 14:24, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote - a user-friendly app for
> controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer,
> tablet or smartphone.
>
> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases
>
>
>
> See two demos:
>
> General introduction:
>
> https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA
>
>
>
> How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control
> Csound in 10 minutes:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g
>
>
>
>
>
> Since version 6.11 Csound has very flexible control over UDP messages
> and I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to
> tablet that is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table
> connected with the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make
> it more available for anyone. I have built an app that takes care of
> sending/receiving the UDP messages, has a generic builtin interface and
> is able to load custom interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can
> use calls similar to usual Csound API, and that's it. For example:
>
>
>
> Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value",
> position) }
>
>
>
> QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to
> quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.
>
>
>
> There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:
>
> https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3
>
> you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your
> mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app.
>
> Not all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider,
> Knob, SpinBox) work fine.
>
>
>
> You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:
>
> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
>
>
>
> When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and
> make also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely
> possible (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet,
> how to deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file
> management...)
>
>
>
> Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!
>
>
>
> tarmo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> 
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> can be posted here

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Thanks, Joachim!

I think in most more simple cases CsoundRemote is easier to use: you don't 
have to implement sending the messages nor set up the receiver  - CsoundRemote 
does it in one end and Csound in the other.  You don't need OSCListen and 
handling the OSC data in Csound, checking the triggers and then doing 
something with the values -  you just read the values from channels like in 
case of API calls.

The downside is that you have to understand at least little bit of QML and if 
people prefer other languages or platforms, OSC enables to write your own 
solution how it suits best. 

And for sending more complex data like several values at once, OSC is  
superior.

From the other hand with CsoundRremote and Csound UDP listener you can send 
events or compile whole bunch of Csound code with csound.compileOrc -  so you 
have other possibilities here.

In genereal -  I believe with CsoundRemote you get your solution working much 
faster (especially if you export widgets from CsoundQt -  then you don't need 
to get to QML at all) than writing your implementations.

If there is any latency diffrence or which is faster, I cannot tell.

I am happy if people try it out! I pushed the example files to:
https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/tree/master/examples

Also, Mac peolple, please try of if 
https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/download/0.9.6-beta3/
CsoundQt-0.9.6-beta3-2-MacOS.dmg
works for you (to export widgets to QML) - it is reported to crash, but works 
for me. I need more info.

Thanks!
tarmo




On pühapäev, 27. jaanuar 2019 20:19.12 EET you wrote:
> hi tarmo -
> 
> this is really great stuff.  thanks so much for it, and also for the
> demos!!  it really shows everything we need to know.
> 
> i was wondering in which situation you would prefer OSC over the --port
> option.  do you have any opinion about it?
> 
> best -
> 	joachim
> 
> On 21/01/19 14:24, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote - a user-friendly app for
> > controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer,
> > tablet or smartphone.
> > 
> > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > See two demos:
> > 
> > General introduction:
> > 
> > https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control
> > Csound in 10 minutes:
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Since version 6.11 Csound has very flexible control over UDP messages
> > and I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to
> > tablet that is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table
> > connected with the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make
> > it more available for anyone. I have built an app that takes care of
> > sending/receiving the UDP messages, has a generic builtin interface and
> > is able to load custom interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can
> > use calls similar to usual Csound API, and that's it. For example:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value",
> > position) }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to
> > quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:
> > 
> > https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3
> > 
> > you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your
> > mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app.
> > 
> > Not all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider,
> > Knob, SpinBox) work fine.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:
> > 
> > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and
> > make also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely
> > possible (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet,
> > how to deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file
> > management...)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > tarmo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> > 
> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to
> > https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features
> > can be posted here
> 
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

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hi tarmo -

thanks for the good explanation.  makes perfectly sense.

i tried the qml export on two macs:
- osx 10.10 with csoundqt 0.9.6-beta2
- osx 10.12 with csoundqt 0.9.6-beta3

both worked without any problems.

ciao -
	joachim



On 27/01/19 22:06, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> Thanks, Joachim!
>
> I think in most more simple cases CsoundRemote is easier to use: you don't
> have to implement sending the messages nor set up the receiver  - CsoundRemote
> does it in one end and Csound in the other.  You don't need OSCListen and
> handling the OSC data in Csound, checking the triggers and then doing
> something with the values -  you just read the values from channels like in
> case of API calls.
>
> The downside is that you have to understand at least little bit of QML and if
> people prefer other languages or platforms, OSC enables to write your own
> solution how it suits best.
>
> And for sending more complex data like several values at once, OSC is
> superior.
>
> From the other hand with CsoundRremote and Csound UDP listener you can send
> events or compile whole bunch of Csound code with csound.compileOrc -  so you
> have other possibilities here.
>
> In genereal -  I believe with CsoundRemote you get your solution working much
> faster (especially if you export widgets from CsoundQt -  then you don't need
> to get to QML at all) than writing your implementations.
>
> If there is any latency diffrence or which is faster, I cannot tell.
>
> I am happy if people try it out! I pushed the example files to:
> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/tree/master/examples
>
> Also, Mac peolple, please try of if
> https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/download/0.9.6-beta3/
> CsoundQt-0.9.6-beta3-2-MacOS.dmg
> works for you (to export widgets to QML) - it is reported to crash, but works
> for me. I need more info.
>
> Thanks!
> tarmo
>
>
>
>
> On pühapäev, 27. jaanuar 2019 20:19.12 EET you wrote:
>> hi tarmo -
>>
>> this is really great stuff.  thanks so much for it, and also for the
>> demos!!  it really shows everything we need to know.
>>
>> i was wondering in which situation you would prefer OSC over the --port
>> option.  do you have any opinion about it?
>>
>> best -
>> 	joachim
>>
>> On 21/01/19 14:24, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote - a user-friendly app for
>>> controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer,
>>> tablet or smartphone.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See two demos:
>>>
>>> General introduction:
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control
>>> Csound in 10 minutes:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since version 6.11 Csound has very flexible control over UDP messages
>>> and I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to
>>> tablet that is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table
>>> connected with the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make
>>> it more available for anyone. I have built an app that takes care of
>>> sending/receiving the UDP messages, has a generic builtin interface and
>>> is able to load custom interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can
>>> use calls similar to usual Csound API, and that's it. For example:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value",
>>> position) }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to
>>> quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3
>>>
>>> you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your
>>> mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app.
>>>
>>> Not all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider,
>>> Knob, SpinBox) work fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and
>>> make also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely
>>> possible (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet,
>>> how to deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file
>>> management...)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> tarmo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Thanks,

Good to hear! Interesting, some people have reported beta3 to crash and I am 
on it, fix coming up, anyway it works for some though...

In future I a plan to develop QML support also for checkboxes, displays, 
meters and what else is missing there...

greetings,
tarmo

On neljapäev, 31. jaanuar 2019 20:30.55 EET you wrote:
> hi tarmo -
> 
> thanks for the good explanation.  makes perfectly sense.
> 
> i tried the qml export on two macs:
> - osx 10.10 with csoundqt 0.9.6-beta2
> - osx 10.12 with csoundqt 0.9.6-beta3
> 
> both worked without any problems.
> 
> ciao -
> 	joachim
> 
> On 27/01/19 22:06, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> > Thanks, Joachim!
> > 
> > I think in most more simple cases CsoundRemote is easier to use: you don't
> > have to implement sending the messages nor set up the receiver  -
> > CsoundRemote does it in one end and Csound in the other.  You don't need
> > OSCListen and handling the OSC data in Csound, checking the triggers and
> > then doing something with the values -  you just read the values from
> > channels like in case of API calls.
> > 
> > The downside is that you have to understand at least little bit of QML and
> > if people prefer other languages or platforms, OSC enables to write your
> > own solution how it suits best.
> > 
> > And for sending more complex data like several values at once, OSC is
> > superior.
> > 
> > From the other hand with CsoundRremote and Csound UDP listener you can
> > send
> > events or compile whole bunch of Csound code with csound.compileOrc -  so
> > you have other possibilities here.
> > 
> > In genereal -  I believe with CsoundRemote you get your solution working
> > much faster (especially if you export widgets from CsoundQt -  then you
> > don't need to get to QML at all) than writing your implementations.
> > 
> > If there is any latency diffrence or which is faster, I cannot tell.
> > 
> > I am happy if people try it out! I pushed the example files to:
> > https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/tree/master/examples
> > 
> > Also, Mac peolple, please try of if
> > https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/download/0.9.6-beta3/
> > CsoundQt-0.9.6-beta3-2-MacOS.dmg
> > works for you (to export widgets to QML) - it is reported to crash, but
> > works for me. I need more info.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > tarmo
> > 
> > On pühapäev, 27. jaanuar 2019 20:19.12 EET you wrote:
> >> hi tarmo -
> >> 
> >> this is really great stuff.  thanks so much for it, and also for the
> >> demos!!  it really shows everything we need to know.
> >> 
> >> i was wondering in which situation you would prefer OSC over the --port
> >> option.  do you have any opinion about it?
> >> 
> >> best -
> >> 
> >> 	joachim
> >> 
> >> On 21/01/19 14:24, Tarmo Johannes wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I am glad to announce release of Csound Remote - a user-friendly app for
> >>> controlling Csound via UDP messages from the same or other computer,
> >>> tablet or smartphone.
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> See two demos:
> >>> 
> >>> General introduction:
> >>> 
> >>> https://youtu.be/HzsS4s2d2NA
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> How to create an animated user interface with QtCreator and control
> >>> Csound in 10 minutes:
> >>> 
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbuuPq4t7g
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Since version 6.11 Csound has very flexible control over UDP messages
> >>> and I have used it in several projects to bring the user interface to
> >>> tablet that is with me on the stage while computer is sitting on a table
> >>> connected with the mixer. It has worked very well and I wanted to make
> >>> it more available for anyone. I have built an app that takes care of
> >>> sending/receiving the UDP messages, has a generic builtin interface and
> >>> is able to load custom interfaces in QML (Qt Metalanguae) where you can
> >>> use calls similar to usual Csound API, and that's it. For example:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Slider {width: 100; onPositionChanged: csound.setControlChannel("value",
> >>> position) }
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> QML is relatively simple, yet very powerful language that enables to
> >>> quickly create nice, well portable interfaces.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> There is another great feature that is available since CsoundQt-beta3:
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/CsoundQt/CsoundQt/releases/tag/0.9.6-beta3
> >>> 
> >>> you can export your CsoundQt widgets to QML file and send them to your
> >>> mobile device (or use in any computer) to with the CsoundRemote app.
> >>> 
> >>> Not all widgets are supported yet but the main (Button, Label, Slider,
> >>> Knob, SpinBox) work fine.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> You can find the source code and Android apk from the release page:
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/tarmoj/CsoundRemote/releases/tag/0.2.2
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> When there is any interest, I can put CsoundRemote to Google Play and
> >>> make also Windows and MacOs packages. Version for iOs is definitely
> >>> possible (and woks in iphonesimulator), but I have not figured out yet,
> >>> how to deal with the loading of QML files (ha, the mysterious iOs file
> >>> management...)
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Please try out and hopefully it is useful for someone!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> tarmo
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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> >>> can be posted here
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