hi -
i'd like to forward this from the floss list to the csound list. perhaps
someone wants to do it here? if so, please contact alex directly.
best -
	joachim

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: [FM Discuss] csound floss manual - release cover
Datum: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:30:22 +0200
Von: Alex Hofmann 
Antwort an: discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net
An: discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net

Hi floss members,

I've met Adam Hyde today and we finalized the csound floss manual. Soon
its ready to become printed!
Unfortunately there is no "csound" logo existing, we can put on the
cover. Is there a designer, who could offer us help in designing a
simple logo ?

best,

alex

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If I may weigh in-- the logo really should be simpler-- based around just the word Csound--  and while the 'computing audio since 1986' tag is cool, I don't think this should be part of a logo-- a simple, portable vector graphic with textual/graphical focus on one word is always stronger, and more timeless.

I am willing to volunteer my modest  Adobe Illustrator ability to try a few designs out here... Perhaps we could all submit a whole bunch of designs and vote on them via the list etc.  At any rate, I would like to help and I hope my comments are taken constructively and are useful.  

As the new webmaster of Csounds.com, I have been quietly updating the site, culling old material and broken links, adding and updating content (like the Max Mathews tribute page) and speaking at length with Dr. Boulanger about a visual transformation and functional expansion of the site to better serve the community- and I have been sketching logos and other vector graphics... So I would like to share my effort to this process and also let the list know that I am very open to suggestions and requests at this stage.

Respect

John Clements

On Jun 30, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Iain McCurdy  wrote:

> I have been bouncing some ideas back and forth with Alex Hofmann and we came up with this.
> For the FLOSS manual we need to include a tag-line and it should follow the general aesthetic of the other covers.
> 
> Feel free to voice opinions.
> (Bare in mind that I'm not a graphic designer and I only have a 15 year old demo version of Paint Shop Pro to work with.)
> 
> I.
> 
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:22:06 +0200
>> From: jh@joachimheintz.de
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Csnd] Fwd: [FM Discuss] csound floss manual - release cover
>> 
>> hi -
>> i'd like to forward this from the floss list to the csound list. perhaps
>> someone wants to do it here? if so, please contact alex directly.
>> best -
>> joachim
>> 
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Betreff: [FM Discuss] csound floss manual - release cover
>> Datum: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:30:22 +0200
>> Von: Alex Hofmann 
>> Antwort an: discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net
>> An: discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net
>> 
>> Hi floss members,
>> 
>> I've met Adam Hyde today and we finalized the csound floss manual. Soon
>> its ready to become printed!
>> Unfortunately there is no "csound" logo existing, we can put on the
>> cover. Is there a designer, who could offer us help in designing a
>> simple logo ?
>> 
>> best,
>> 
>> alex
>> 
>> ---
>> Csound - computing audio since 1986.
>> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/
>> 
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Thank you for your work on the site John... That sort of effort is often 
thankless and yet has a great impact...

I agree with your comments on needing a simpler logo and having anyone 
interested submit them... It will provide a variety to chose from.... To 
that end I would get the ball rolling with the attached jpegs.... If 
anyone has suggestions with variations of them I am open to giving it a 
whirl.

Take care,

Michael

On 6/30/11 9:22 AM, John Clements wrote:
> If I may weigh in-- the logo really should be simpler-- based around just the word Csound--  and while the 'computing audio since 1986' tag is cool, I don't think this should be part of a logo-- a simple, portable vector graphic with textual/graphical focus on one word is always stronger, and more timeless.
>
> I am willing to volunteer my modest  Adobe Illustrator ability to try a few designs out here... Perhaps we could all submit a whole bunch of designs and vote on them via the list etc.  At any rate, I would like to help and I hope my comments are taken constructively and are useful.
>
> As the new webmaster of Csounds.com, I have been quietly updating the site, culling old material and broken links, adding and updating content (like the Max Mathews tribute page) and speaking at length with Dr. Boulanger about a visual transformation and functional expansion of the site to better serve the community- and I have been sketching logos and other vector graphics... So I would like to share my effort to this process and also let the list know that I am very open to suggestions and requests at this stage.
>
> Respect
>
> John Clements

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many thanks for your work on csounds.com, john (and to richard making it
possible). this is so important for csound. i am also glad  to see this
easy access to the csound floss manual now.

i have some suggestions for the download page
(http://csounds.com/downloads):

1. the csound page at sourceforge for sources and installers should link
to http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/ or even to
http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/

2. for the git repository, there was a good description of steven how to
use (cs-dev list june 1):
>>
Using git for for just checking out and compiling is pretty easy.

1. Install git
2. Use this command to clone the Csound5 git repository:

git clone git://csound.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/csound/csound5

This will checkout a read-only (meaning, you can not commit back to
the central git repository) version of the Csound5 repo.

3. To update with the latest from the master repo, use:

git pull

4. The same process is used for the Csound manual.  Use this command to
clone:

git clone git://csound.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/csound/manual
<<

3. for the cvs repository there should be a note that the csound sources
have moved to git since ...

4. QuteCsound is not mentioned at the Frontends section:
http://qutecsound.sourceforge.net/

thanks again and best regards -

	joachim


Am 30.06.2011 17:44, schrieb John Clements:
> Iain, agreed, and I think that the logo you designed definitely makes
> for a good cover for the FLOSS manual.  In that context, the tagline
> works great.  Perhaps 3 projects: A general logo for Csound itself, the
> FLOSS cover, and a new logo/look for Csounds.  It would be cool to have
> the whole community submit designs and weigh in on the general logo.
>  The FLOSS manual is a great resource ( I made sure to add a link to it
> from the home menu at Csounds.com) and I have high regard for the
> instruments and examples that you have contributed to Csound, Iain.  I
> am really grateful to have the opportunity to help bring educational
> resources, current developments, artistic examples, and Csound community
> members together at Csounds.com, and look forward to highlighting the
> work of anyone and everyone on this list there as we figure out how to
> bring more interactivity and utility to the site.  
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> John Clements
> 
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Iain McCurdy  > wrote:
> 
>     Thanks john, look forward to seeing what you can come up.
>     The logo discussion came up as we needed something for the cover of
>     the FLOSS manual and for this we also need a tag-line. You can see
>     some of the other manual front covers here:
>     http://en.flossmanuals.net/
>     A lot of them seem to use some sort of graphic also. This is going
>     to print next week so it would be rather urgent (no pressure ;-) ).
> 
>     I think there are actually two projects here: the FLOSS cover and
>     the new logo for csounds.com . I suppose it
>     would be good if we had some sort of unifying look across the two
>     but in the timeframe this might not be possible.
> 
>     Iain
> 
>     > From: jclements77@gmail.com 
>     > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:22:02 -0400
> 
>     > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk 
>     > Subject: Re: [Csnd] Fwd: [FM Discuss] csound floss manual -
>     release cover
> 
>     >
>     > If I may weigh in-- the logo really should be simpler-- based
>     around just the word Csound-- and while the 'computing audio since
>     1986' tag is cool, I don't think this should be part of a logo-- a
>     simple, portable vector graphic with textual/graphical focus on one
>     word is always stronger, and more timeless.
>     >
>     > I am willing to volunteer my modest Adobe Illustrator ability to
>     try a few designs out here... Perhaps we could all submit a whole
>     bunch of designs and vote on them via the list etc. At any rate, I
>     would like to help and I hope my comments are taken constructively
>     and are useful.
>     >
>     > As the new webmaster of Csounds.com, I have been quietly updating
>     the site, culling old material and broken links, adding and updating
>     content (like the Max Mathews tribute page) and speaking at length
>     with Dr. Boulanger about a visual transformation and functional
>     expansion of the site to better serve the community- and I have been
>     sketching logos and other vector graphics... So I would like to
>     share my effort to this process and also let the list know that I am
>     very open to suggestions and requests at this stage.
>     >
>     > Respect
>     >
>     > John Clements
>     >
>     > On Jun 30, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Iain McCurdy      > wrote:
>     >
>     > > I have been bouncing some ideas back and forth with Alex Hofmann
>     and we came up with this.
>     > > For the FLOSS manual we need to include a tag-line and it should
>     follow the general aesthetic of the other covers.
>     > >
>     > > Feel free to voice opinions.
>     > > (Bare in mind that I'm not a graphic designer and I only have a
>     15 year old demo version of Paint Shop Pro to work with.)
>     > >
>     > > I.
>     > >
>     > >> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:22:06 +0200
>     > >> From: jh@joachimheintz.de 
>     > >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk 
>     > >> Subject: [Csnd] Fwd: [FM Discuss] csound floss manual - release
>     cover
>     > >>
>     > >> hi -
>     > >> i'd like to forward this from the floss list to the csound
>     list. perhaps
>     > >> someone wants to do it here? if so, please contact alex directly.
>     > >> best -
>     > >> joachim
>     > >>
>     > >> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>     > >> Betreff: [FM Discuss] csound floss manual - release cover
>     > >> Datum: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:30:22 +0200
>     > >> Von: Alex Hofmann >
>     > >> Antwort an: discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net
>     
>     > >> An: discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net
>     
>     > >>
>     > >> Hi floss members,
>     > >>
>     > >> I've met Adam Hyde today and we finalized the csound floss
>     manual. Soon
>     > >> its ready to become printed!
>     > >> Unfortunately there is no "csound" logo existing, we can put on the
>     > >> cover. Is there a designer, who could offer us help in designing a
>     > >> simple logo ?
>     > >>
>     > >> best,
>     > >>
>     > >> alex
>     > >>
>     > >> ---
>     > >> Csound - computing audio since 1986.
>     > >> http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/
>     > >>
>     > >> _______________________________________________
>     > >> Discuss mailing list
>     > >> Discuss@lists.flossmanuals.net
>     
>     > >> http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net
>     > >>
>     > >>
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I've created some variations of the third design to help keep the ball moving.

Best,
Jake
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Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Michael Rhoades
 wrote:
> I agree with your comments on needing a simpler logo and having anyone
> interested submit them... It will provide a variety to chose from.... To
> that end I would get the ball rolling with the attached jpegs.... If anyone
> has suggestions with variations of them I am open to giving it a whirl.

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I like the first one. It also indicates the correct capitalisation, or  
what I believe is the correct one, Csound. I think this is probably my  
preferred one of all suggestions.

Victor
On 1 Jul 2011, at 21:02, Jacob Joaquin wrote:

> I've created some variations of the third design to help keep the  
> ball moving.
>
> Best,
> Jake
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>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Michael Rhoades
>  wrote:
>> I agree with your comments on needing a simpler logo and having  
>> anyone
>> interested submit them... It will provide a variety to chose  
>> from.... To
>> that end I would get the ball rolling with the attached jpegs....  
>> If anyone
>> has suggestions with variations of them I am open to giving it a  
>> whirl.
>
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Csound is the "correct" capitalization.

Sent from my iPad2.

On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:

> I like the first one. It also indicates the correct capitalisation, or what I believe is the correct one, Csound. I think this is probably my preferred one of all suggestions.
> 
> Victor
> On 1 Jul 2011, at 21:02, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
> 
>> I've created some variations of the third design to help keep the ball moving.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Jake
>> -- 
>> The Csound Blog - http://csoundblog.com/
>> Slipmat - http://slipmat.noisepages.com/
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Michael Rhoades
>>  wrote:
>>> I agree with your comments on needing a simpler logo and having anyone
>>> interested submit them... It will provide a variety to chose from.... To
>>> that end I would get the ball rolling with the attached jpegs.... If anyone
>>> has suggestions with variations of them I am open to giving it a whirl.
>> 
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> 
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> 
> 
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My only worry which these is that most of the 'C's are very circular, 
and may well not be recognised as a 'C' by people who do not already 
know what Csound is -  it will be seen as the word 'sound" breaking into 
a circle. Any merit in a serifed font version?


Richard Dobson

On 01/07/2011 21:02, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
> I've created some variations of the third design to help keep the ball moving.
>
> Best,
> Jake



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How about something like this? (see attached)



On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Richard Dobson
 wrote:
> My only worry which these is that most of the 'C's are very circular, and
> may well not be recognised as a 'C' by people who do not already know what
> Csound is -  it will be seen as the word 'sound" breaking into a circle. Any
> merit in a serifed font version?
>
>
> Richard Dobson
>
> On 01/07/2011 21:02, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
>>
>> I've created some variations of the third design to help keep the ball
>> moving.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>
>
>
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Yes, great! the Italic slant also gives the logo a slightly playful 
character, which tells the story pretty well.

Richard Dobson

On 02/07/2011 19:21, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
> How about something like this? (see attached)
>
>
>


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Maybe move it over a bit to balance it...

Martin


On 2011-07-02 14:21, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
> How about something like this? (see attached)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Richard Dobson
>   wrote:
>> My only worry which these is that most of the 'C's are very circular, and
>> may well not be recognised as a 'C' by people who do not already know what
>> Csound is -  it will be seen as the word 'sound" breaking into a circle. Any
>> merit in a serifed font version?
>>
>>
>> Richard Dobson
>>
>> On 01/07/2011 21:02, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
>>>
>>> I've created some variations of the third design to help keep the ball
>>> moving.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
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Looking at this again this morning, I don't think I'm a fan of the serif.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
> How about something like this? (see attached)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Richard Dobson
>  wrote:
>> My only worry which these is that most of the 'C's are very circular, and
>> may well not be recognised as a 'C' by people who do not already know what
>> Csound is -  it will be seen as the word 'sound" breaking into a circle. Any
>> merit in a serifed font version?
>>
>>
>> Richard Dobson
>>
>> On 01/07/2011 21:02, Jacob Joaquin wrote:
>>>
>>> I've created some variations of the third design to help keep the ball
>>> moving.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
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