Hi Guys,
If I want an instrument panned either right or left, how do I go about it?
Thanks,
Carl

Hi Carl,

I think (and I may be wrong) that all you have to do for a simple pan is to multiply a signal by a number (1 for left, 0 for right). I'll check the manual and the tutorials on this subject. (You can find the tutorials at:

http://csounds.com/tutorials/

Hope this helps.

Adam

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Carl  wrote:

> From: Carl 
> Subject: [Csnd] Panning
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 7:12 AM
> Hi Guys,If I want an instrument panned
> either right or left, how do I go about
> it?Thanks,Carl
> 
> -- 
> "Call me what you like....but don't call me in the
> morning."http://www.myspace.com/bluefevermusic
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Make sure nchnls = 2 and then something as simple as Adam mentioned
above will do, i.e.,

nchnls = 2

instr 1
a1 oscil 10000, 440, 1
outs a1*0, a1
endin

Rory.


2009/12/1 Adam Puckett :
> Hi Carl,
>
> I think (and I may be wrong) that all you have to do for a simple pan is to multiply a signal by a number (1 for left, 0 for right). I'll check the manual and the tutorials on this subject. (You can find the tutorials at:
>
> http://csounds.com/tutorials/
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Adam
>
> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Carl  wrote:
>
>> From: Carl 
>> Subject: [Csnd] Panning
>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 7:12 AM
>> Hi Guys,If I want an instrument panned
>> either right or left, how do I go about
>> it?Thanks,Carl
>>
>> --
>> "Call me what you like....but don't call me in the
>> morning."http://www.myspace.com/bluefevermusic
>>
>>
>>
>>
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If you want the sound to move, you can modify Rory's instrument to  
include something like:

instr 1
kpan line 0, p3, 1
a1 oscil 10000, 440, 1
outs a1*kpan, a1*(1-kpan)
endin


Can get nice effects if you use an LFO for kpan, incidentally…

  Joe



On 1 Dec 2009, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:

> Make sure nchnls = 2 and then something as simple as Adam mentioned
> above will do, i.e.,
>
> nchnls = 2
>
> instr 1
> a1 oscil 10000, 440, 1
> outs a1*0, a1
> endin
>
> Rory.
>
>
> 2009/12/1 Adam Puckett :
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>> I think (and I may be wrong) that all you have to do for a simple  
>> pan is to multiply a signal by a number (1 for left, 0 for right).  
>> I'll check the manual and the tutorials on this subject. (You can  
>> find the tutorials at:
>>
>> http://csounds.com/tutorials/
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Carl  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Carl 
>>> Subject: [Csnd] Panning
>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 7:12 AM
>>> Hi Guys,If I want an instrument panned
>>> either right or left, how do I go about
>>> it?Thanks,Carl
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Call me what you like....but don't call me in the
>>> morning."http://www.myspace.com/bluefevermusic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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I usually pan with the jspline opcode. Just replace Joe's kpan line
with something like:
kpan jspline 1, 1, 3
and then make sure you use "abs" as jspline will output from -1 to +1
so the out line would look like this:
outs a1*abs(kpan), a1*1-abs(kpan)

Rory.


2009/12/1 Joe O'Farrell :
> If you want the sound to move, you can modify Rory's instrument to include
> something like:
>
> instr 1
> kpan line 0, p3, 1
> a1 oscil 10000, 440, 1
> outs a1*kpan, a1*(1-kpan)
> endin
>
>
> Can get nice effects if you use an LFO for kpan, incidentally…
>
>  Joe
>
>
>
> On 1 Dec 2009, at 14:11, Rory Walsh wrote:
>
>> Make sure nchnls = 2 and then something as simple as Adam mentioned
>> above will do, i.e.,
>>
>> nchnls = 2
>>
>> instr 1
>> a1 oscil 10000, 440, 1
>> outs a1*0, a1
>> endin
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/1 Adam Puckett :
>>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>> I think (and I may be wrong) that all you have to do for a simple pan is
>>> to multiply a signal by a number (1 for left, 0 for right). I'll check the
>>> manual and the tutorials on this subject. (You can find the tutorials at:
>>>
>>> http://csounds.com/tutorials/
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Carl  wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Carl 
>>>> Subject: [Csnd] Panning
>>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 7:12 AM
>>>> Hi Guys,If I want an instrument panned
>>>> either right or left, how do I go about
>>>> it?Thanks,Carl
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Call me what you like....but don't call me in the
>>>> morning."http://www.myspace.com/bluefevermusic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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may I place a pleas for equal power panning?  A linear pan does not give
that; that is why I wrote pan2 as I could never remember which algorithm
to use.
==John

> I usually pan with the jspline opcode. Just replace Joe's kpan line
> with something like:
> kpan jspline 1, 1, 3
> and then make sure you use "abs" as jspline will output from -1 to +1
> so the out line would look like this:
> outs a1*abs(kpan), a1*1-abs(kpan)
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I still like using pan_gm2
(http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=79) which was
the recommended pan scheme by the MIDI association.  Sounds good to
me! :)

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM,   wrote:
> may I place a pleas for equal power panning?  A linear pan does not give
> that; that is why I wrote pan2 as I could never remember which algorithm
> to use.
> ==John
>
>> I usually pan with the jspline opcode. Just replace Joe's kpan line
>> with something like:
>> kpan jspline 1, 1, 3
>> and then make sure you use "abs" as jspline will output from -1 to +1
>> so the out line would look like this:
>> outs a1*abs(kpan), a1*1-abs(kpan)
>>
>
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Steven Yi wrote:
> I still like using pan_gm2
> (http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=79) which was
> the recommended pan scheme by the MIDI association.  Sounds good to
> me! :)
> 

= Standard sin/cos law c/p pan. But perhaps better without the 
unnecessary conversion to dB and back again!

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John is absolutely right, of course, and I wholeheartedly endorse the  
use of pan2

I did not mean to imply that the linear example was ideal - it just  
makes it easy to see the relationship between L/R values and position  
in the stereo field

(at least it does to me, though that might be something to do with my  
age… when I started with Csound it came on a floppy!)


Joe


On 1 Dec 2009, at 16:11, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:

> may I place a pleas for equal power panning?  A linear pan does not  
> give
> that; that is why I wrote pan2 as I could never remember which  
> algorithm
> to use.
> ==John
>
>> I usually pan with the jspline opcode. Just replace Joe's kpan line
>> with something like:
>> kpan jspline 1, 1, 3
>> and then make sure you use "abs" as jspline will output from -1 to +1
>> so the out line would look like this:
>> outs a1*abs(kpan), a1*1-abs(kpan)
>>
>
>
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Oh... hahahha! I did that code quickly a long while back and didn't
even register it was doing that extra conversion.  Should just use
pan2 then. :)

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Richard Dobson
 wrote:
> Steven Yi wrote:
>>
>> I still like using pan_gm2
>> (http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=79) which was
>> the recommended pan scheme by the MIDI association.  Sounds good to
>> me! :)
>>
>
> = Standard sin/cos law c/p pan. But perhaps better without the unnecessary
> conversion to dB and back again!
>
> Richard Dobson
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Carl

To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:18 PM

Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Panning

Ah, beautiful panning on my laptop - thanks!

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh... hahahha! I did that code quickly a long while back and didn't
even register it was doing that extra conversion.  Should just use
pan2 then. :)

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Richard Dobson
<richarddobson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Steven Yi wrote:
>>
>> I still like using pan_gm2
>> (http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=79) which was
>> the recommended pan scheme by the MIDI association.  Sounds good to
>> me! :)
>>
>
> = Standard sin/cos law c/p pan. But perhaps better without the unnecessary
> conversion to dB and back again!
>
> Richard Dobson
>
>
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Another way to avoid linear panning is to use sqrt:

kpan line 0,p3,1
kleft = sqrt(1-kpan)
kright = sqrt(kpan)

outs asig*kleft,asig*kright

A floppy!! Nobody's THAT old!

--David

> John is absolutely right, of course, and I wholeheartedly endorse the
> use of pan2
>
> I did not mean to imply that the linear example was ideal - it just
> makes it easy to see the relationship between L/R values and position
> in the stereo field
>
> (at least it does to me, though that might be something to do with my
> age… when I started with Csound it came on a floppy!)
>
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 1 Dec 2009, at 16:11, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>
>> may I place a pleas for equal power panning?  A linear pan does not
>> give
>> that; that is why I wrote pan2 as I could never remember which
>> algorithm
>> to use.
>> ==John
>>
>>> I usually pan with the jspline opcode. Just replace Joe's kpan line
>>> with something like:
>>> kpan jspline 1, 1, 3
>>> and then make sure you use "abs" as jspline will output from -1 to +1
>>> so the out line would look like this:
>>> outs a1*abs(kpan), a1*1-abs(kpan)
>>>
>>
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When omitting an itype argument from transeg, I've noticed there isn't a 
syntax error message like that which usually appears with this type of
mistake. Everything compiles with "0 errors" but also with 0 amplitude
output. So, is this an error with the error message? I'm using ver. 5.08.

Thanks--

--David

On 2 Dec 2009, at 14:44, moko@city-net.com wrote:

> A floppy!! Nobody's THAT old!

Would that that were true… ;-)

For the record, first encounter with Csound was in 1997 - or the year  
10 BK (Before kpan2)

Could have been worse - at least it was a 3.5" floppy!

Joe

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Joe O'Farrell wrote:
> 
> On 2 Dec 2009, at 14:44, moko@city-net.com wrote:
> 
>> A floppy!! Nobody's THAT old!
> 
> Would that that were true… ;-)
> 
> For the record, first encounter with Csound was in 1997 - or the year 10 
> BK (Before kpan2)
> 
> Could have been worse - at least it was a 3.5" floppy!
> 


I can put just a few years on that - got the CDP system (Atari ST, plus 
80MB SCSI hard disk costing £900, and a floppy drive) in 1987, and 
Csound was already included. Among the ancillary delights just a little 
later on was a really very good GUI application by Richard Orton for 
creating hetro files for adsyn by drawing each partial graphically as 
breakpoint data. And at that time I had never heard of an "equal-power 
pan", nor knew why I would want one.



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just to be thorough on the subject of panning, 
there's a "rotate" UDO i made here:

http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=45

this is a good way for panning recorded stereo files 
-- you can almost think of it as "microphone rotation"


matt ingalls
matt@sonomatics.com





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