I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very 
basic API  functionality.
I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions. 
csoundCompile works (it compiles
the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be processed 
by Audacity).
  csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but there 
is no sound.
Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player 
is it supposed to use? Is there an
internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player? Does 
it require another thread to play?
I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution. 
Hoping to avoid building CSound
to debug.
I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.

Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?

Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass something like this:

const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);

it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output option "-o".

Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to get a better idea of options etc.

Victor

Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.

On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:

> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very basic API  functionality.
> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions. csoundCompile works (it compiles
> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be processed by Audacity).
> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but there is no sound.
> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player is it supposed to use? Is there an
> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player? Does it require another thread to play?
> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution. Hoping to avoid building CSound
> to debug.
> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

For convenience the link to the FLOSS Manual is:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/csound/

Hope this helps.

On 5/11/12, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions from
> headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>
> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass
> something like this:
>
> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>
> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output option
> "-o".
>
> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to get a
> better idea of options etc.
>
> Victor
>
> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>
> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>
>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very
>> basic API  functionality.
>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions.
>> csoundCompile works (it compiles
>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be processed
>> by Audacity).
>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but there
>> is no sound.
>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player is
>> it supposed to use? Is there an
>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player? Does
>> it require another thread to play?
>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution. Hoping
>> to avoid building CSound
>> to debug.
>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"
>
>

Thanks. What a difference an option makes! I was loading the DLL rather 
than linking directly because
there was no .lib in the distribution (that I could find). I created my 
own and everything is working. Is there a reason the .lib is not included?
On 5/11/2012 9:14 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>
> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass something like this:
>
> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>
> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output option "-o".
>
> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to get a better idea of options etc.
>
> Victor
>
> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>
> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>
>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very basic API  functionality.
>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions. csoundCompile works (it compiles
>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be processed by Audacity).
>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but there is no sound.
>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player is it supposed to use? Is there an
>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player? Does it require another thread to play?
>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution. Hoping to avoid building CSound
>> to debug.
>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>              https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>

Not sure? Maybe Michael Gogins, who maintains the package, might know.

Also: If you are using mingw, I think you can link directly to the DLL (no need for the .lib)>

Victor
On 13 May 2012, at 00:42, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:

> Thanks. What a difference an option makes! I was loading the DLL rather than linking directly because
> there was no .lib in the distribution (that I could find). I created my own and everything is working. Is there a reason the .lib is not included?
> On 5/11/2012 9:14 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>> 
>> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass something like this:
>> 
>> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
>> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>> 
>> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output option "-o".
>> 
>> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to get a better idea of options etc.
>> 
>> Victor
>> 
>> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>> 
>> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>> 
>>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very basic API  functionality.
>>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions. csoundCompile works (it compiles
>>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be processed by Audacity).
>>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
>>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but there is no sound.
>>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player is it supposed to use? Is there an
>>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player? Does it require another thread to play?
>>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution. Hoping to avoid building CSound
>>> to debug.
>>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>> 
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
> 

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

Are you on Windows? The installer puts all headers in include and all
DLLs and libs in bin. Everything you need to use the Csound API is
included.

There is no "lib" because the toolchain we use is MinGW, not Micosoft
Visual C++. MinGW can link directly to DLLs and does not need import
libraries. You can create Microsoft import libraries for the DLLs if
you need to. You need to use dumpbin to print out a list of exports
from the DLL, and then add a header and numbers to that to create a
.def file that you can use to create an import library using the lib
tool. The procedure is explained
here:http://wiki.videolan.org/GenerateLibFromDll. I have tried this
and it works.

If you're not committed to Microsoft tools, I urge you to consider
switching to MinGW and the GNU toolchain. It is just as good, easier
to use in some ways (no manifests for example), harder to use in other
ways (the Microsoft IDE and debugger and documentation are very good).
Not only Csound but most of the third party libraries used with Csound
are built using the GNU toolchain. I'm more confident that GNU and
Linux will still be around to build and run Csound in 20 years than I
am that Microsoft will be.

Hope this helps,
Mike



On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> Not sure? Maybe Michael Gogins, who maintains the package, might know.
>
> Also: If you are using mingw, I think you can link directly to the DLL (no need for the .lib)>
>
> Victor
> On 13 May 2012, at 00:42, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>
>> Thanks. What a difference an option makes! I was loading the DLL rather than linking directly because
>> there was no .lib in the distribution (that I could find). I created my own and everything is working. Is there a reason the .lib is not included?
>> On 5/11/2012 9:14 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>>>
>>> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass something like this:
>>>
>>> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
>>> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>>>
>>> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output option "-o".
>>>
>>> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to get a better idea of options etc.
>>>
>>> Victor
>>>
>>> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>>>
>>> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very basic API  functionality.
>>>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions. csoundCompile works (it compiles
>>>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be processed by Audacity).
>>>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
>>>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but there is no sound.
>>>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player is it supposed to use? Is there an
>>>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player? Does it require another thread to play?
>>>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution. Hoping to avoid building CSound
>>>> to debug.
>>>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>>
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"
>



-- 
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://www.michael-gogins.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

One thing that's missing in the standard MinGW package is DirectX, so
I use MinGW-Builds from:

http://sf.net/projects/mingwbuilds/

But there's no MSYS! So, my solution here is to download the mingw-get
zip file and place into the mingwbuilds directory, install MSYS, and
I'm in business.

MinGW-Builds is just a binary distribution of MinGW-w64, plus the
additional SDKs such as DDK and DirectX. Plus, thanks to the Wine
project, it has complete Kernel Streaming headers, which is great for
low-latency apps.

Perhaps since I'm learning the ins and outs of Csound sources I should
implement a -+rtaudio=ks option for WDM/KS support? (Not that there's
anything wrong with the way PortAudio does it...)

On 5/12/12, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> Are you on Windows? The installer puts all headers in include and all
> DLLs and libs in bin. Everything you need to use the Csound API is
> included.
>
> There is no "lib" because the toolchain we use is MinGW, not Micosoft
> Visual C++. MinGW can link directly to DLLs and does not need import
> libraries. You can create Microsoft import libraries for the DLLs if
> you need to. You need to use dumpbin to print out a list of exports
> from the DLL, and then add a header and numbers to that to create a
> .def file that you can use to create an import library using the lib
> tool. The procedure is explained
> here:http://wiki.videolan.org/GenerateLibFromDll. I have tried this
> and it works.
>
> If you're not committed to Microsoft tools, I urge you to consider
> switching to MinGW and the GNU toolchain. It is just as good, easier
> to use in some ways (no manifests for example), harder to use in other
> ways (the Microsoft IDE and debugger and documentation are very good).
> Not only Csound but most of the third party libraries used with Csound
> are built using the GNU toolchain. I'm more confident that GNU and
> Linux will still be around to build and run Csound in 20 years than I
> am that Microsoft will be.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> Not sure? Maybe Michael Gogins, who maintains the package, might know.
>>
>> Also: If you are using mingw, I think you can link directly to the DLL (no
>> need for the .lib)>
>>
>> Victor
>> On 13 May 2012, at 00:42, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. What a difference an option makes! I was loading the DLL rather
>>> than linking directly because
>>> there was no .lib in the distribution (that I could find). I created my
>>> own and everything is working. Is there a reason the .lib is not
>>> included?
>>> On 5/11/2012 9:14 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions
>>>> from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>>>>
>>>> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass
>>>> something like this:
>>>>
>>>> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
>>>> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>>>>
>>>> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output
>>>> option "-o".
>>>>
>>>> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to get
>>>> a better idea of options etc.
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>>
>>>> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>>>>
>>>> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very
>>>>> basic API  functionality.
>>>>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions.
>>>>> csoundCompile works (it compiles
>>>>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be
>>>>> processed by Audacity).
>>>>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
>>>>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but
>>>>> there is no sound.
>>>>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player
>>>>> is it supposed to use? Is there an
>>>>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player?
>>>>> Does it require another thread to play?
>>>>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution.
>>>>> Hoping to avoid building CSound
>>>>> to debug.
>>>>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>
>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
> csound"
>
>

Such a driver would be appreciated. Thanks for the information about
mingwbuilds, also. I just use mingw-get and supplement it with a few
things. I may change to your method for building Csound.

Regards,
Mike

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Adam Puckett  wrote:
> One thing that's missing in the standard MinGW package is DirectX, so
> I use MinGW-Builds from:
>
> http://sf.net/projects/mingwbuilds/
>
> But there's no MSYS! So, my solution here is to download the mingw-get
> zip file and place into the mingwbuilds directory, install MSYS, and
> I'm in business.
>
> MinGW-Builds is just a binary distribution of MinGW-w64, plus the
> additional SDKs such as DDK and DirectX. Plus, thanks to the Wine
> project, it has complete Kernel Streaming headers, which is great for
> low-latency apps.
>
> Perhaps since I'm learning the ins and outs of Csound sources I should
> implement a -+rtaudio=ks option for WDM/KS support? (Not that there's
> anything wrong with the way PortAudio does it...)
>
> On 5/12/12, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>> Are you on Windows? The installer puts all headers in include and all
>> DLLs and libs in bin. Everything you need to use the Csound API is
>> included.
>>
>> There is no "lib" because the toolchain we use is MinGW, not Micosoft
>> Visual C++. MinGW can link directly to DLLs and does not need import
>> libraries. You can create Microsoft import libraries for the DLLs if
>> you need to. You need to use dumpbin to print out a list of exports
>> from the DLL, and then add a header and numbers to that to create a
>> .def file that you can use to create an import library using the lib
>> tool. The procedure is explained
>> here:http://wiki.videolan.org/GenerateLibFromDll. I have tried this
>> and it works.
>>
>> If you're not committed to Microsoft tools, I urge you to consider
>> switching to MinGW and the GNU toolchain. It is just as good, easier
>> to use in some ways (no manifests for example), harder to use in other
>> ways (the Microsoft IDE and debugger and documentation are very good).
>> Not only Csound but most of the third party libraries used with Csound
>> are built using the GNU toolchain. I'm more confident that GNU and
>> Linux will still be around to build and run Csound in 20 years than I
>> am that Microsoft will be.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>>> Not sure? Maybe Michael Gogins, who maintains the package, might know.
>>>
>>> Also: If you are using mingw, I think you can link directly to the DLL (no
>>> need for the .lib)>
>>>
>>> Victor
>>> On 13 May 2012, at 00:42, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks. What a difference an option makes! I was loading the DLL rather
>>>> than linking directly because
>>>> there was no .lib in the distribution (that I could find). I created my
>>>> own and everything is working. Is there a reason the .lib is not
>>>> included?
>>>> On 5/11/2012 9:14 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions
>>>>> from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass
>>>>> something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
>>>>> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>>>>>
>>>>> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output
>>>>> option "-o".
>>>>>
>>>>> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to get
>>>>> a better idea of options etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very
>>>>>> basic API  functionality.
>>>>>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions.
>>>>>> csoundCompile works (it compiles
>>>>>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be
>>>>>> processed by Audacity).
>>>>>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB file
>>>>>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but
>>>>>> there is no sound.
>>>>>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what player
>>>>>> is it supposed to use? Is there an
>>>>>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player?
>>>>>> Does it require another thread to play?
>>>>>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution.
>>>>>> Hoping to avoid building CSound
>>>>>> to debug.
>>>>>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>
>>
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>> csound"
>>
>>
>
>
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Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

No problem, Mike. It'll probably take a while though.

On 5/13/12, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> Such a driver would be appreciated. Thanks for the information about
> mingwbuilds, also. I just use mingw-get and supplement it with a few
> things. I may change to your method for building Csound.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Adam Puckett 
> wrote:
>> One thing that's missing in the standard MinGW package is DirectX, so
>> I use MinGW-Builds from:
>>
>> http://sf.net/projects/mingwbuilds/
>>
>> But there's no MSYS! So, my solution here is to download the mingw-get
>> zip file and place into the mingwbuilds directory, install MSYS, and
>> I'm in business.
>>
>> MinGW-Builds is just a binary distribution of MinGW-w64, plus the
>> additional SDKs such as DDK and DirectX. Plus, thanks to the Wine
>> project, it has complete Kernel Streaming headers, which is great for
>> low-latency apps.
>>
>> Perhaps since I'm learning the ins and outs of Csound sources I should
>> implement a -+rtaudio=ks option for WDM/KS support? (Not that there's
>> anything wrong with the way PortAudio does it...)
>>
>> On 5/12/12, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>>> Are you on Windows? The installer puts all headers in include and all
>>> DLLs and libs in bin. Everything you need to use the Csound API is
>>> included.
>>>
>>> There is no "lib" because the toolchain we use is MinGW, not Micosoft
>>> Visual C++. MinGW can link directly to DLLs and does not need import
>>> libraries. You can create Microsoft import libraries for the DLLs if
>>> you need to. You need to use dumpbin to print out a list of exports
>>> from the DLL, and then add a header and numbers to that to create a
>>> .def file that you can use to create an import library using the lib
>>> tool. The procedure is explained
>>> here:http://wiki.videolan.org/GenerateLibFromDll. I have tried this
>>> and it works.
>>>
>>> If you're not committed to Microsoft tools, I urge you to consider
>>> switching to MinGW and the GNU toolchain. It is just as good, easier
>>> to use in some ways (no manifests for example), harder to use in other
>>> ways (the Microsoft IDE and debugger and documentation are very good).
>>> Not only Csound but most of the third party libraries used with Csound
>>> are built using the GNU toolchain. I'm more confident that GNU and
>>> Linux will still be around to build and run Csound in 20 years than I
>>> am that Microsoft will be.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Not sure? Maybe Michael Gogins, who maintains the package, might know.
>>>>
>>>> Also: If you are using mingw, I think you can link directly to the DLL
>>>> (no
>>>> need for the .lib)>
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>> On 13 May 2012, at 00:42, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. What a difference an option makes! I was loading the DLL rather
>>>>> than linking directly because
>>>>> there was no .lib in the distribution (that I could find). I created my
>>>>> own and everything is working. Is there a reason the .lib is not
>>>>> included?
>>>>> On 5/11/2012 9:14 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions
>>>>>> from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass
>>>>>> something like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
>>>>>> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output
>>>>>> option "-o".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> a better idea of options etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very
>>>>>>> basic API  functionality.
>>>>>>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions.
>>>>>>> csoundCompile works (it compiles
>>>>>>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be
>>>>>>> processed by Audacity).
>>>>>>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but
>>>>>>> there is no sound.
>>>>>>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what
>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>> is it supposed to use? Is there an
>>>>>>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player?
>>>>>>> Does it require another thread to play?
>>>>>>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution.
>>>>>>> Hoping to avoid building CSound
>>>>>>> to debug.
>>>>>>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Gogins
>>> Irreducible Productions
>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> csound"
>
>

Thanks for all the info. I've been a slave to VC IDE for many years and 
this would be a good opportunity
to switch, or at least use a combination. BTW dumpbin fails (win 7) on 
the csound dll but dependency walker
has no problem.

On 5/13/2012 7:54 PM, Adam Puckett wrote:
> No problem, Mike. It'll probably take a while though.
>
> On 5/13/12, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>> Such a driver would be appreciated. Thanks for the information about
>> mingwbuilds, also. I just use mingw-get and supplement it with a few
>> things. I may change to your method for building Csound.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Adam Puckett
>> wrote:
>>> One thing that's missing in the standard MinGW package is DirectX, so
>>> I use MinGW-Builds from:
>>>
>>> http://sf.net/projects/mingwbuilds/
>>>
>>> But there's no MSYS! So, my solution here is to download the mingw-get
>>> zip file and place into the mingwbuilds directory, install MSYS, and
>>> I'm in business.
>>>
>>> MinGW-Builds is just a binary distribution of MinGW-w64, plus the
>>> additional SDKs such as DDK and DirectX. Plus, thanks to the Wine
>>> project, it has complete Kernel Streaming headers, which is great for
>>> low-latency apps.
>>>
>>> Perhaps since I'm learning the ins and outs of Csound sources I should
>>> implement a -+rtaudio=ks option for WDM/KS support? (Not that there's
>>> anything wrong with the way PortAudio does it...)
>>>
>>> On 5/12/12, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>>>> Are you on Windows? The installer puts all headers in include and all
>>>> DLLs and libs in bin. Everything you need to use the Csound API is
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>> There is no "lib" because the toolchain we use is MinGW, not Micosoft
>>>> Visual C++. MinGW can link directly to DLLs and does not need import
>>>> libraries. You can create Microsoft import libraries for the DLLs if
>>>> you need to. You need to use dumpbin to print out a list of exports
>>>> from the DLL, and then add a header and numbers to that to create a
>>>> .def file that you can use to create an import library using the lib
>>>> tool. The procedure is explained
>>>> here:http://wiki.videolan.org/GenerateLibFromDll. I have tried this
>>>> and it works.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not committed to Microsoft tools, I urge you to consider
>>>> switching to MinGW and the GNU toolchain. It is just as good, easier
>>>> to use in some ways (no manifests for example), harder to use in other
>>>> ways (the Microsoft IDE and debugger and documentation are very good).
>>>> Not only Csound but most of the third party libraries used with Csound
>>>> are built using the GNU toolchain. I'm more confident that GNU and
>>>> Linux will still be around to build and run Csound in 20 years than I
>>>> am that Microsoft will be.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>> Not sure? Maybe Michael Gogins, who maintains the package, might know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also: If you are using mingw, I think you can link directly to the DLL
>>>>> (no
>>>>> need for the .lib)>
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>> On 13 May 2012, at 00:42, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. What a difference an option makes! I was loading the DLL rather
>>>>>> than linking directly because
>>>>>> there was no .lib in the distribution (that I could find). I created my
>>>>>> own and everything is working. Is there a reason the .lib is not
>>>>>> included?
>>>>>> On 5/11/2012 9:14 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>> Why are using GetProcAddress() when you could just get the functions
>>>>>>> from headers and link to the DLL instead of loading it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Csound works with options passed to csoundCompile(). So if you pass
>>>>>>> something like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> const char argv[3] = {"csound", "test.csd", "-o dac"};
>>>>>>> csoundCompile(csound, 3, argv);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it will play in realtime, because you passed the "dac" as the output
>>>>>>> option "-o".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try reading the Csound FLOSS manual (you can search for the URL) to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> a better idea of options etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ps: the only dumb questions are the ones we don't ask.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12 May 2012, at 01:40, Stephen Grant Lists wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am very new to this application and I'm attempting to get some very
>>>>>>>> basic API  functionality.
>>>>>>>> I use GetProcAddress() to get pointers to the required functions.
>>>>>>>> csoundCompile works (it compiles
>>>>>>>> the csd file without error and creates a wave file that can be
>>>>>>>> processed by Audacity).
>>>>>>>> csoundPerform does ~500000 iterations (is this reasonable - a 2MB
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>> that represents a 5 sec pure tone?)  then exits (retVal == 2), but
>>>>>>>> there is no sound.
>>>>>>>> Is csoundPerform supposed to play the .wav file and if so, what
>>>>>>>> player
>>>>>>>> is it supposed to use? Is there an
>>>>>>>> internal player, or if not, where do you set your favourite player?
>>>>>>>> Does it require another thread to play?
>>>>>>>> I'm using DevStudio 10 with Win 7 32bit with the 5.17 distribution.
>>>>>>>> Hoping to avoid building CSound
>>>>>>>> to debug.
>>>>>>>> I pro-actively apologize if this are dumb questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>>            https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
>>>>>> "unsubscribe
>>>>>> csound"
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>> Dept. of Music
>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>>> csound"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>              https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>>> csound"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe
>>> csound"
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>              https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>> csound"
>>
>>
>
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