Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

Date

2013-10-04 13:04

From

"Art Hunkins"

Subject

Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

Thanks, Victor. This is very reassuring.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----

From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie

To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:26 AM

Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

You don't any flag to turn the widgets on. If you want graphs, --displays will turn them on.

----- Original Message -----
From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@uncg.edu>
Date: Friday, October 4, 2013 12:55 am
Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Victor,

So, to use FLTK in the terminal on OSX (and with Csound6), what flag do you need to turn on, if any?

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----

From: Andres Cabrera

To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:43 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

However, and by default (if I'm not mistaken), whenever the string "FLrun" is found in a csd, CsoundQt will run the csd in an external terminal even when told to run internally, so the conflict shouldn't be so serious. There is an option in the preferences to toggle this behavior, but I think that's the default.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:32 PM, <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

No, the problem is to do with CsoundQt being incompatible with FLTK. On the terminal, it works fine. All the same,

suppressing graphs are also motivated by the fact that they do not seem very useful and often are just in the way.

----- Original Message -----
From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@uncg.edu>
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 10:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Is the "FLTK problem" on OSX specific to certain opcodes, or is it in such a mess as to be completely unuseable?

For me this is a real-world issue. I'm trying hard to get some clarity as to whether FLTK is viable as a cross-platform performance GUI. I will *not* use it if it is not dependable - or cannot be made dependable - on OSX.

I wonder if any developer is willing to work on this. (I can't recall any significant issue that has remained unresolved for such a long time.)

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----

From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie

To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

because FLTK is problematic on OSX, so I suppressed it in Csound 6 by default. John ffitch asked for it to be maintained, so I did not change the defaults for Linux.

Victor
----- Original Message -----
From: joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de>
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

> why is this different on the various operation systems?
>
>
> Am 03.10.2013 22:11, schrieb Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie:
> > I guess this must be on Linux. On OSX, graphs are switched off
> by default.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
> > Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:10 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
> > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >
> >     what about -g ?
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
> >     Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:55 pm
> >     Subject: [Csnd] -d no longer
> suppressing graphics
> >     To: "csound@lists.bath.ac.uk"
> <csound@lists.bath.ac.uk>>
> >      > Running with -d no longer
> suppresses graphics. If I run a csd
> >      > with -d
> >      > I it continues to show the
> ftable popup dialogue. This is with the
> >      > latest git. --nodisplays
> doesn't work either.
> >      >
> >      > Rory.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Send bugs reports to the
> Sourceforge bug trackers
> >      > csound6:
> >
> >             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/tickets/
> >      > csound5:
> >
> >             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/bugs/
> >      > Discussions of bugs and
> features can be posted here
> >      > To unsubscribe, send email
> sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
> >      > "unsubscribe csound"
> >      >
> >      >
> >     Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer,
> Dept. of Music,
> >     National University of Ireland, Maynooth
> >
> >
> > Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
> > National University of Ireland, Maynooth
> >
> >
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug trackers
> csound6:
>             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/tickets/
> csound5:
>             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/bugs/
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
> "unsubscribe csound"
>
>

Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

Date

2013-10-04 13:57

From

Rory Walsh

Subject

Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

Ok, -g works when running Csound from the command line, but in my frontends it doesn't. That is to say I still get the graphs launched when my host launches. I don't recall this ever being an issue before.

On 4 October 2013 13:04, Art Hunkins <abhunkin@uncg.edu> wrote:

Thanks, Victor. This is very reassuring.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----

From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie

To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:26 AM

Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

You don't any flag to turn the widgets on. If you want graphs, --displays will turn them on.

----- Original Message -----
From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@uncg.edu>
Date: Friday, October 4, 2013 12:55 am
Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Victor,

So, to use FLTK in the terminal on OSX (and with Csound6), what flag do you need to turn on, if any?

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----

From: Andres Cabrera

To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:43 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

However, and by default (if I'm not mistaken), whenever the string "FLrun" is found in a csd, CsoundQt will run the csd in an external terminal even when told to run internally, so the conflict shouldn't be so serious. There is an option in the preferences to toggle this behavior, but I think that's the default.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:32 PM, <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

No, the problem is to do with CsoundQt being incompatible with FLTK. On the terminal, it works fine. All the same,

suppressing graphs are also motivated by the fact that they do not seem very useful and often are just in the way.

----- Original Message -----
From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@uncg.edu>
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 10:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Is the "FLTK problem" on OSX specific to certain opcodes, or is it in such a mess as to be completely unuseable?

For me this is a real-world issue. I'm trying hard to get some clarity as to whether FLTK is viable as a cross-platform performance GUI. I will *not* use it if it is not dependable - or cannot be made dependable - on OSX.

I wonder if any developer is willing to work on this. (I can't recall any significant issue that has remained unresolved for such a long time.)

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----

From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie

To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics

because FLTK is problematic on OSX, so I suppressed it in Csound 6 by default. John ffitch asked for it to be maintained, so I did not change the defaults for Linux.

Victor
----- Original Message -----
From: joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de>
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

> why is this different on the various operation systems?
>
>
> Am 03.10.2013 22:11, schrieb Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie:
> > I guess this must be on Linux. On OSX, graphs are switched off
> by default.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
> > Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:10 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Csnd] -d no longer suppressing graphics
> > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >
> >     what about -g ?
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>
> >     Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:55 pm
> >     Subject: [Csnd] -d no longer
> suppressing graphics
> >     To: "csound@lists.bath.ac.uk"
> <csound@lists.bath.ac.uk>>
> >      > Running with -d no longer
> suppresses graphics. If I run a csd
> >      > with -d
> >      > I it continues to show the
> ftable popup dialogue. This is with the
> >      > latest git. --nodisplays
> doesn't work either.
> >      >
> >      > Rory.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Send bugs reports to the
> Sourceforge bug trackers
> >      > csound6:
> >
> >             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/tickets/
> >      > csound5:
> >
> >             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/bugs/
> >      > Discussions of bugs and
> features can be posted here
> >      > To unsubscribe, send email
> sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
> >      > "unsubscribe csound"
> >      >
> >      >
> >     Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer,
> Dept. of Music,
> >     National University of Ireland, Maynooth
> >
> >
> > Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
> > National University of Ireland, Maynooth
> >
> >
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug trackers
> csound6:
>             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/tickets/
> csound5:
>             https://sourceforge.net/p/csound/bugs/
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body
> "unsubscribe csound"
>
>

Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth