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[Csnd] OT : With some rite of the spring's sound objects

Date2013-12-09 17:20
FromNicolas Drweski
Subject[Csnd] OT : With some rite of the spring's sound objects
Hello Everyone !!!

Here is one of my new compositions where I used sound objects made from a recording from the rite of the spring (a rehearsal of the orchestre du théatre des champs Elysees).

https://soundcloud.com/nicolasdrweski/le-sacrelet-du-printemps

Feedbacks are very welcome !
 




Date2013-12-09 17:26
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : With some rite of the spring's sound objects
Nice. Very theatrical!

On 9 December 2013 17:20, Nicolas Drweski  wrote:
> Hello Everyone !!!
>
> Here is one of my new compositions where I used sound objects made from a
> recording from the rite of the spring (a rehearsal of the orchestre du
> théatre des champs Elysees).
>
> https://soundcloud.com/nicolasdrweski/le-sacrelet-du-printemps
>
> Feedbacks are very welcome !
>
> Nicolas Drweski
>
>
>


Date2013-12-09 18:07
FromAnthony Palomba
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : With some rite of the spring's sound objects
Hey Nicolas,

Very cool piece! I like the sonic space you create.

Did you use csound for this? Can you give us a little insight on
what tools/techniques you used to organize the sound objects?



Anthony
 


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Nice. Very theatrical!

On 9 December 2013 17:20, Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello Everyone !!!
>
> Here is one of my new compositions where I used sound objects made from a
> recording from the rite of the spring (a rehearsal of the orchestre du
> théatre des champs Elysees).
>
> https://soundcloud.com/nicolasdrweski/le-sacrelet-du-printemps
>
> Feedbacks are very welcome !
>
> Nicolas Drweski
>
>
>


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Date2013-12-10 16:55
FromNicolas Drweski
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : With some rite of the spring's sound objects
Thanks !

btw, i am not sure my english skills will let me explain my thoughts as i would like to.... but i'll give it a try.

Almost all the sound objects are made using partially or completly csound.
By sound objects, i stay attached to the vision that P.schaeffer had of it, so once the object is created, i almost never process it with plug-ins during the act of composing.

the creation of the sound objects (which it is difficult to consider as "musical") is the first step.

with the newly created sound objects bank, i start the process of composing. Confront all those sounds together give quite a bit of a direction little by little, but with little idea of what the whole piece will sound like.

As i am not familiar with csound to organize sound in time and space, i do it in Pro tools, which have the audio engine that convince the most.

I am quite classic in the vision of music it have to be in some point a structure with tension and "relaxation" (not sure if this make sence that word here), and contrast. if not, it usually quit the domain of music.
i am quite attach to this.
to put the sound objects together, i usually work by ears (which is exactly what P.Schaeffer had in mind), but with pro tools, we have the possibility to write the sounds structure much more than with the magnetophone. I am happy with this because i like music that is "written" or give the appearence to be written.

that will be the base of how i compose, but one thing important i use a lot is chaos in evry piece i compose. in some parts, i put the sounds o jects randomly together, and little by little taking out what "do not make it" for the ear.

I think this is all i can say... But there are many aspect of my compositions that i am not aware of, because i am certainly enchained with my habits... I guess many of the important aspects that make something be is everything that cannot be said...

Thanks again for the feedbacks, and i hope my comments helps.

Nicolas

Le 9 déc. 2013 à 19:07, Anthony Palomba <apalomba@austin.rr.com> a écrit :

Hey Nicolas,

Very cool piece! I like the sonic space you create.

Did you use csound for this? Can you give us a little insight on
what tools/techniques you used to organize the sound objects?



Anthony
 


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Nice. Very theatrical!

On 9 December 2013 17:20, Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello Everyone !!!
>
> Here is one of my new compositions where I used sound objects made from a
> recording from the rite of the spring (a rehearsal of the orchestre du
> théatre des champs Elysees).
>
> https://soundcloud.com/nicolasdrweski/le-sacrelet-du-printemps
>
> Feedbacks are very welcome !
>
> Nicolas Drweski
>
>
>


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Date2013-12-10 19:19
FromAnthony Palomba
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : With some rite of the spring's sound objects
Nicolas,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and process. I love your use of sound objects and how they convey such a clear narrative. You also have great intros to your pieces.

I think the challenging thing about electro-acoustic music is managing all the small audio bits and working with these as sound objects. I want sound objects that are malleable but don't want to be overwhelmed by managing all the bits.

Thanks for sharing, great work!



Anthony








On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Thanks !

btw, i am not sure my english skills will let me explain my thoughts as i would like to.... but i'll give it a try.

Almost all the sound objects are made using partially or completly csound.
By sound objects, i stay attached to the vision that P.schaeffer had of it, so once the object is created, i almost never process it with plug-ins during the act of composing.

the creation of the sound objects (which it is difficult to consider as "musical") is the first step.

with the newly created sound objects bank, i start the process of composing. Confront all those sounds together give quite a bit of a direction little by little, but with little idea of what the whole piece will sound like.

As i am not familiar with csound to organize sound in time and space, i do it in Pro tools, which have the audio engine that convince the most.

I am quite classic in the vision of music it have to be in some point a structure with tension and "relaxation" (not sure if this make sence that word here), and contrast. if not, it usually quit the domain of music.
i am quite attach to this.
to put the sound objects together, i usually work by ears (which is exactly what P.Schaeffer had in mind), but with pro tools, we have the possibility to write the sounds structure much more than with the magnetophone. I am happy with this because i like music that is "written" or give the appearence to be written.

that will be the base of how i compose, but one thing important i use a lot is chaos in evry piece i compose. in some parts, i put the sounds o jects randomly together, and little by little taking out what "do not make it" for the ear.

I think this is all i can say... But there are many aspect of my compositions that i am not aware of, because i am certainly enchained with my habits... I guess many of the important aspects that make something be is everything that cannot be said...

Thanks again for the feedbacks, and i hope my comments helps.

Nicolas

Le 9 déc. 2013 à 19:07, Anthony Palomba <apalomba@austin.rr.com> a écrit :

Hey Nicolas,

Very cool piece! I like the sonic space you create.

Did you use csound for this? Can you give us a little insight on
what tools/techniques you used to organize the sound objects?



Anthony
 


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
Nice. Very theatrical!

On 9 December 2013 17:20, Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello Everyone !!!
>
> Here is one of my new compositions where I used sound objects made from a
> recording from the rite of the spring (a rehearsal of the orchestre du
> théatre des champs Elysees).
>
> https://soundcloud.com/nicolasdrweski/le-sacrelet-du-printemps
>
> Feedbacks are very welcome !
>
> Nicolas Drweski
>
>
>


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Date2013-12-14 21:00
FromNicolas Drweski
Subject[Csnd] [csound] OT : Betthoven'symphonies remix

Here is a link to my last piece "Ni pastorale, ni héroique" a remix of Beethoven's nine symphonies !


Feedbacks are welcome !
 



Date2013-12-15 03:35
FromHlöðver Sigurðsson
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [csound] OT : Betthoven'symphonies remix
Very nice, funny title too. I think it would be possible to use more possibilities from csound by resynthesize the audio more or even use midi to control audio, just to make it even more distant from the original recording(or use no recording) without loosing the character. Just musical taste I think.


2013/12/14 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>

Here is a link to my last piece "Ni pastorale, ni héroique" a remix of Beethoven's nine symphonies !


Feedbacks are welcome !
 





--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson

Date2013-12-16 16:38
FromNicolas Drweski
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : Betthoven'symphonies remix
Thanks for the feedback.

I am sure it will be of great result to synthetize beethoven's material, but i personally always prefer that my basys be sounds produced mecanicly, i use csound to restructure, process "effects", on the sounds. I will loose too much dexterity using csound at other level. Some people have that intelligence, i don't have it.

 Hloover,
i will be curious to listen to some exemple of what you evoque !

nicolas

Le 15 déc. 2013 à 04:35, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> a écrit :

Very nice, funny title too. I think it would be possible to use more possibilities from csound by resynthesize the audio more or even use midi to control audio, just to make it even more distant from the original recording(or use no recording) without loosing the character. Just musical taste I think.


2013/12/14 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>

Here is a link to my last piece "Ni pastorale, ni héroique" a remix of Beethoven's nine symphonies !


Feedbacks are welcome !
 





--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson

Date2013-12-16 20:12
FromHlöðver Sigurðsson
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : Betthoven'symphonies remix
I can talk the talk, but I can't walk the walk :)
I'm really just thinking out loud as curious composer about the possibilities of remixing(I'm also a beginner in csound).

But what I have done is to use midi files and midi to sco converter to create a score that controls csound instrument. You can get the midi files for Beethoven 9th symphony on kunstderfugue website. I did just that with Bach brandenburg on buzz sounds in csound, very unoriginal, but good exercise. Of course it's much much more time consuming and totally different sport to do so with a symphony with many instruments, but the outcome (might) be very original. But Its also(i think) possible if you have really clean recording to use spectral analysis like melodyne to analyze pitch from recordings and use pitch values as basis for some csound instruments and resynthesize every sound. But I've never done that, but I know some guys were able to get whole Art Tatum performance from old recording and have it played on virtual instrument.

remix, (re)transcribe and recompose. Very fun stuff!


2013/12/16 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>
Thanks for the feedback.

I am sure it will be of great result to synthetize beethoven's material, but i personally always prefer that my basys be sounds produced mecanicly, i use csound to restructure, process "effects", on the sounds. I will loose too much dexterity using csound at other level. Some people have that intelligence, i don't have it.

 Hloover,
i will be curious to listen to some exemple of what you evoque !

nicolas

Le 15 déc. 2013 à 04:35, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> a écrit :

Very nice, funny title too. I think it would be possible to use more possibilities from csound by resynthesize the audio more or even use midi to control audio, just to make it even more distant from the original recording(or use no recording) without loosing the character. Just musical taste I think.


2013/12/14 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>

Here is a link to my last piece "Ni pastorale, ni héroique" a remix of Beethoven's nine symphonies !


Feedbacks are welcome !
 





--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson



--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson

Date2013-12-16 21:33
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : Betthoven'symphonies remix
Nicolas, this reminds me of some of Henry's remixes. Didn't he do a Beethoven symphony and a Schubert symphony remix? 

P



On 16 December 2013 20:12, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
I can talk the talk, but I can't walk the walk :)
I'm really just thinking out loud as curious composer about the possibilities of remixing(I'm also a beginner in csound).

But what I have done is to use midi files and midi to sco converter to create a score that controls csound instrument. You can get the midi files for Beethoven 9th symphony on kunstderfugue website. I did just that with Bach brandenburg on buzz sounds in csound, very unoriginal, but good exercise. Of course it's much much more time consuming and totally different sport to do so with a symphony with many instruments, but the outcome (might) be very original. But Its also(i think) possible if you have really clean recording to use spectral analysis like melodyne to analyze pitch from recordings and use pitch values as basis for some csound instruments and resynthesize every sound. But I've never done that, but I know some guys were able to get whole Art Tatum performance from old recording and have it played on virtual instrument.

remix, (re)transcribe and recompose. Very fun stuff!


2013/12/16 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>
Thanks for the feedback.

I am sure it will be of great result to synthetize beethoven's material, but i personally always prefer that my basys be sounds produced mecanicly, i use csound to restructure, process "effects", on the sounds. I will loose too much dexterity using csound at other level. Some people have that intelligence, i don't have it.

 Hloover,
i will be curious to listen to some exemple of what you evoque !

nicolas

Le 15 déc. 2013 à 04:35, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> a écrit :

Very nice, funny title too. I think it would be possible to use more possibilities from csound by resynthesize the audio more or even use midi to control audio, just to make it even more distant from the original recording(or use no recording) without loosing the character. Just musical taste I think.


2013/12/14 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>

Here is a link to my last piece "Ni pastorale, ni héroique" a remix of Beethoven's nine symphonies !


Feedbacks are welcome !
 





--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson



--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson


Date2013-12-16 21:45
FromNicolas Drweski
SubjectRe: [Csnd] OT : Betthoven'symphonies remix
yes, he did a Beethoven symphony remix. he did two versions of it.

Le 16 déc. 2013 à 22:33, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> a écrit :

Nicolas, this reminds me of some of Henry's remixes. Didn't he do a Beethoven symphony and a Schubert symphony remix? 

P



On 16 December 2013 20:12, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
I can talk the talk, but I can't walk the walk :)
I'm really just thinking out loud as curious composer about the possibilities of remixing(I'm also a beginner in csound).

But what I have done is to use midi files and midi to sco converter to create a score that controls csound instrument. You can get the midi files for Beethoven 9th symphony on kunstderfugue website. I did just that with Bach brandenburg on buzz sounds in csound, very unoriginal, but good exercise. Of course it's much much more time consuming and totally different sport to do so with a symphony with many instruments, but the outcome (might) be very original. But Its also(i think) possible if you have really clean recording to use spectral analysis like melodyne to analyze pitch from recordings and use pitch values as basis for some csound instruments and resynthesize every sound. But I've never done that, but I know some guys were able to get whole Art Tatum performance from old recording and have it played on virtual instrument.

remix, (re)transcribe and recompose. Very fun stuff!


2013/12/16 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>
Thanks for the feedback.

I am sure it will be of great result to synthetize beethoven's material, but i personally always prefer that my basys be sounds produced mecanicly, i use csound to restructure, process "effects", on the sounds. I will loose too much dexterity using csound at other level. Some people have that intelligence, i don't have it.

 Hloover,
i will be curious to listen to some exemple of what you evoque !

nicolas

Le 15 déc. 2013 à 04:35, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> a écrit :

Very nice, funny title too. I think it would be possible to use more possibilities from csound by resynthesize the audio more or even use midi to control audio, just to make it even more distant from the original recording(or use no recording) without loosing the character. Just musical taste I think.


2013/12/14 Nicolas Drweski <ndrweski@yahoo.fr>

Here is a link to my last piece "Ni pastorale, ni héroique" a remix of Beethoven's nine symphonies !


Feedbacks are welcome !
 





--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson



--
Hlöðver Sigurðsson