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Date2013-12-14 15:21
Frompbr
Subject[Csnd] CSound -> DAW pipeline
Hi everyone, 
  I'm new to Csound and have a query about sorting out a workflow.  The
short of what I'm trying to do, at least initially until i can understand
what better options are and how everything actually works, is to send an
entire csound score with single signals to single outputs on my motu.  These
signals would then be processed externally and recorded locally (still
separate) for more digital processing.  I originally thought the CsoundVST
in ableton live would provide the fastest option; i could make the scores in
blue, save them, and then load them in the vst, route them in live, and then
play and record.  It looks like I would have to build the VST from source
(I'm on OSX; I could do this if I thought it was going to work out in the
end). 

So, would this concept work?  Does anyone know a better/more robust way?  I
should add that I'm fluent in Python and i'm open to looking at other
environments (GPL FTW) but I need whatever the routing environment is (Live
etc) to support VSTs.

Thanks for any advice



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Date2013-12-14 16:09
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] CSound -> DAW pipeline
Have you looked at Cabbage?

http://www.thecabbagefoundation.org/

It’s probably the best tool for DAW integration.

Victor
On 14 Dec 2013, at 15:21, pbr  wrote:

> Hi everyone, 
>  I'm new to Csound and have a query about sorting out a workflow.  The
> short of what I'm trying to do, at least initially until i can understand
> what better options are and how everything actually works, is to send an
> entire csound score with single signals to single outputs on my motu.  These
> signals would then be processed externally and recorded locally (still
> separate) for more digital processing.  I originally thought the CsoundVST
> in ableton live would provide the fastest option; i could make the scores in
> blue, save them, and then load them in the vst, route them in live, and then
> play and record.  It looks like I would have to build the VST from source
> (I'm on OSX; I could do this if I thought it was going to work out in the
> end). 
> 
> So, would this concept work?  Does anyone know a better/more robust way?  I
> should add that I'm fluent in Python and i'm open to looking at other
> environments (GPL FTW) but I need whatever the routing environment is (Live
> etc) to support VSTs.
> 
> Thanks for any advice
> 
> 
> 
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Date2013-12-14 16:21
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] CSound -> DAW pipeline
If you're only using live for recording and routing and post-processing then why can't you just bounce your blue layers and import them as individual audio files (tracks) into live? Seems the simplest option to me. 



On 14 December 2013 15:21, pbr <tim.pierson@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,
  I'm new to Csound and have a query about sorting out a workflow.  The
short of what I'm trying to do, at least initially until i can understand
what better options are and how everything actually works, is to send an
entire csound score with single signals to single outputs on my motu.  These
signals would then be processed externally and recorded locally (still
separate) for more digital processing.  I originally thought the CsoundVST
in ableton live would provide the fastest option; i could make the scores in
blue, save them, and then load them in the vst, route them in live, and then
play and record.  It looks like I would have to build the VST from source
(I'm on OSX; I could do this if I thought it was going to work out in the
end).

So, would this concept work?  Does anyone know a better/more robust way?  I
should add that I'm fluent in Python and i'm open to looking at other
environments (GPL FTW) but I need whatever the routing environment is (Live
etc) to support VSTs.

Thanks for any advice



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Date2013-12-14 16:38
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] CSound -> DAW pipeline
I am the author of CsoundVST. I have also experimented with Cabbage. 

I am not aware of anything that would make building CsoundVST on OS X a problem. At the same time, I don't think CsoundVST would do anything that Cabbage can't do, and in addition, Cabbage can provide a user-defined GUI, which CsoundVST can't do. So if Cabbage will already run for you on OS X, I don't see any reason not to go with Cabbage.

Hope this helps,
Mike




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On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Have you looked at Cabbage?

http://www.thecabbagefoundation.org/

It’s probably the best tool for DAW integration.

Victor
On 14 Dec 2013, at 15:21, pbr <tim.pierson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>  I'm new to Csound and have a query about sorting out a workflow.  The
> short of what I'm trying to do, at least initially until i can understand
> what better options are and how everything actually works, is to send an
> entire csound score with single signals to single outputs on my motu.  These
> signals would then be processed externally and recorded locally (still
> separate) for more digital processing.  I originally thought the CsoundVST
> in ableton live would provide the fastest option; i could make the scores in
> blue, save them, and then load them in the vst, route them in live, and then
> play and record.  It looks like I would have to build the VST from source
> (I'm on OSX; I could do this if I thought it was going to work out in the
> end).
>
> So, would this concept work?  Does anyone know a better/more robust way?  I
> should add that I'm fluent in Python and i'm open to looking at other
> environments (GPL FTW) but I need whatever the routing environment is (Live
> etc) to support VSTs.
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
>
>
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>
>
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Date2013-12-15 16:45
Frompbr
Subject[Csnd] Re: CSound -> DAW pipeline
This is all helpful information, thanks.  I'll see if I can get Cabbage
running (at present looks like some bumps on 10.8 and xcode 5) since I'd
like to get something like realtime signals (w/ variable parameters) from
csound to the external gear.  If I can't get Cabbage running, or until I
can, I'll work on bouncing them locally.



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Date2013-12-15 16:47
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: CSound -> DAW pipeline
Also worth investigating PD. As well as Jack, which lets you reroute audio between different applications. 



On 15 December 2013 16:45, pbr <tim.pierson@gmail.com> wrote:
This is all helpful information, thanks.  I'll see if I can get Cabbage
running (at present looks like some bumps on 10.8 and xcode 5) since I'd
like to get something like realtime signals (w/ variable parameters) from
csound to the external gear.  If I can't get Cabbage running, or until I
can, I'll work on bouncing them locally.



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Date2013-12-15 16:48
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Re: CSound -> DAW pipeline
I meant the csoundapi~ external for pd. 



On 15 December 2013 16:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Also worth investigating PD. As well as Jack, which lets you reroute audio between different applications. 
On 15 December 2013 16:45, pbr <tim.pierson@gmail.com> wrote:
This is all helpful information, thanks.  I'll see if I can get Cabbage
running (at present looks like some bumps on 10.8 and xcode 5) since I'd
like to get something like realtime signals (w/ variable parameters) from
csound to the external gear.  If I can't get Cabbage running, or until I
can, I'll work on bouncing them locally.



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